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Anyone have input on the bandsaw? And which swag table is compatible? I'm really kicking around with this one. There's nothing I haven't been able to do without a portaband but it would make life easier. I wouldn't have to fill out hot work permits anymore either.

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Doesn't SWAG list the models that fit right on their website? They also respond very quickly if you get in touch with them.
 
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Is the New Gen 2 high torque impact the most powerful half-inch in battery and pneumatic currently out? I know it won't be that way for long if it is, but that is pretty sweet that cordless now surpasses all pneumatic in power.



I believe it is. You get yours in yet?
 

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I'm thinking about buying the updated version of the 2401-20 M12 screwdriver (on sale at Amazon for $45) for use around the house. Is the 2402 Fuel so much better that I should spend more than twice as much?
 

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I use my 2402 for light duty around the house, had 2401 before that, very easy to strip things as the 2402 is so much more powerful, torque setting is usually 4-6. Got way back when I decided to upgrade everything to Fuel. It runs forever on a battery, just need to be careful with power. Also Fuel has 2 speeds, regular only 1, but again speed 2 can be risky with light duty stuff.

I'm thinking about buying the updated version of the 2401-20 M12 screwdriver (on sale at Amazon for $45) for use around the house. Is the 2402 Fuel so much better that I should spend more than twice as much?
 
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I'm thinking about buying the updated version of the 2401-20 M12 screwdriver (on sale at Amazon for $45) for use around the house. Is the 2402 Fuel so much better that I should spend more than twice as much?

I think the 2401 should be just fine for homeowner chores and workbench use I have the original version

The 2402 although more powerful and 2 speed modes is a heavier tool and is the same body size as the M12 Fuel drill

I have that one too



Never had my hands on a 2406 though
 

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I just bought a 1/2" hole hawg to mix some spackling compound and paint for new project. It's only 7.5 amps and runs at 350 RPM Dewalt's D spade was 9 amps but looked wimpy by comparison, LOL... Yeah adding to Milwaukee collection as of late...
 

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On the mid torque impact what was the difference between the 2 anvil models?


Cat. No. 2860-20 Anvil Type 1/2" Square-Pin
Mode 1 No Load RPM 0 - 1700 Impacts per Minute 2300
Mode 2 No Load RPM 0 - 2100 Impacts per Minute 2700
Mode 3 No Load RPM 0 - 2400 Impacts per Minute 3000


Cat. No. 2861-20 Anvil Type 1/2" Square-Ring
Mode 1 No Load RPM 0 - 510 Impacts per Minute 420
Mode 2 No Load RPM 0 - 2100 Impacts per Minute 2700
Mode 3 No Load RPM 0 - 2400 Impacts per Minute 3000
 
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Called the Kokomo Rural King, said they got a "large load" of Mikwaukee in today... hope my free M12s are in there... Sad I had to bump them and they cannot tell me if they have any for me in inventory, or ETA or anything
 

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Cat. No. 2860-20 Anvil Type 1/2" Square-Pin
Mode 1 No Load RPM 0 - 1700 Impacts per Minute 2300
Mode 2 No Load RPM 0 - 2100 Impacts per Minute 2700
Mode 3 No Load RPM 0 - 2400 Impacts per Minute 3000


Cat. No. 2861-20 Anvil Type 1/2" Square-Ring
Mode 1 No Load RPM 0 - 510 Impacts per Minute 420
Mode 2 No Load RPM 0 - 2100 Impacts per Minute 2700
Mode 3 No Load RPM 0 - 2400 Impacts per Minute 3000

So just the first mode is the only difference? I got the pin detent model today because Home Depot carries it in store. Wasn't sure if I should return it and order the ring anvil.
 

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So just the first mode is the only difference? I got the pin detent model today because Home Depot carries it in store. Wasn't sure if I should return it and order the ring anvil.

What's it like changing sockets? Usually, changing sockets on a true pin detent requires a tool. Not sure how the Milwaukee is, cause I know Ridgid and Ryobi list pin detent models but the sockets still slide off like it were a ball retention..
 

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What's it like changing sockets? Usually, changing sockets on a true pin detent requires a tool. Not sure how the Milwaukee is, cause I know Ridgid and Ryobi list pin detent models but the sockets still slide off like it were a ball retention..

It's ball retention imo. I'll grab a picture tomorrow. Sockets slide off no problem, I tested it before buying. No way I could use an impact that required a tool for socket removal.
 

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So just the first mode is the only difference? I got the pin detent model today because Home Depot carries it in store. Wasn't sure if I should return it and order the ring anvil.

It's ball retention imo. I'll grab a picture tomorrow. Sockets slide off no problem, I tested it before buying. No way I could use an impact that required a tool for socket removal.
If you can live with it and the sockets aren't too much of a PITA to change, you'll be fine.

All it took was a couple of times putting on the wrong socket and having to mess with a pocket screwdriver and flashlight under a truck to change them out, and I sold it and swore off pin detent forever.:lol_hitti
 

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Yea pin detents these days are hit or miss. I have adapters that use the detent and you NEED a tool to get sockets off... And God forbid you try to use a chrome socket that doesn't have a detent hole, you may never get the thing off.. imo pin detents are good for the guy doing assembly, that only uses 1 socket, or uses 2 sockets but just gets a second impact.

If u have no trouble getting them on and off then I guess it doesn't matter. But it only takes a couple days for HD to order a friction ring model.. the friction rings can be changed at home if need be. Not sure if the pin detents have any longevity issue, but that would require a new anvil.
 
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Also, I ordered the Fuel Bandsaw. Decided I'm gonna try making my own table for it, should be simple enough. If for some reason it doesn't work out I'll just get the SWAG. It will be nice to have a mini vertical bandsaw and a portaband for both work and home.

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Also, I ordered the Fuel Bandsaw. Decided I'm gonna try making my own table for it, should be simple enough. If for some reason it doesn't work out I'll just get the SWAG. It will be nice to have a mini vertical bandsaw and a portaband for both work and home.

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Here's the swag for those wondering


And I couldn't help myself, here's the cell's inside the "Powerextra" M12 aftermarket batteries.

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Looks like "Kastar" brand.. These are advertised as 2500mah, but the cells are actually 2100mah from what I find online, and some tests on smaller Kastar camera batteries delivered less than half their advertised output.. so it's anyone's guess with these..

Also, one site i saw these listed as manufacturered in North Korea, so I don't think I'll be buying anymore...

Also what came up in my searches is what looks to be authentic m18 battery CASES. just the case and the electronic board for sale in bulk from China. So I'd be a little weary buying any Milwaukee batteries off eBay. The few I did buy in the past, I paid extra to make sure I got ones that came in the Milwaukee clamshell packaged for individual sale. Who knows what your buying these days.

I'm still wondering how guys get a hold of 100 batteries that wind up on eBay for sale without retail packaging.
 
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Has anyone else experience really poor Bluetooth performance from the 2592-20 m12 speaker?

If I walk more than 10ft away from it the music pauses and skips. What a POS. Did I just get a bad one or do they **** in general.

Trying to decide whether to return or exchange for another.
 

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Has anyone else experience really poor Bluetooth performance from the 2592-20 m12 speaker?

If I walk more than 10ft away from it the music pauses and skips. What a POS. Did I just get a bad one or do they **** in general.

Trying to decide whether to return or exchange for another.

mine works exceptionally well. i get pretty far from it before there is an issue.

might it be that the battery you have in it is almost dead? i usually get three days from a 2AH turned "must you listen to that so loud?" "yes, it won't go any louder." by then it is on the last LED, and i throw the battery in the charger.

of course, if you want "how can you think when it is that loud", you really need a 2891-20 . . . . . . .
 

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My 2592 also works great.

My 2792 occasionally gets a bug up its *** and gets scratchy w my IPhone 5. Forgetting the device and starting over cures it. Only happens maybe once every 7-9 months.

My 2792 also NEVER liked my old iPhone 4, never could figure out why.

edit: regardless I find it far more likely these are Apple glitches than Milwaukee glitches.
 

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I've been using the little Bluetooth speaker in the Dodge Promaster city this company gave me to drive back and forth to work with. I just use it to stream the GPS from the Waze app from my phone so I can still leave the radio on in the van. Works great for that. I haven't really used it for music, but 10' sounds like something isn't right.
 

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Though I have read some reviews long in the paston Amazon stating stuff like poor connections with the original BT speaker but I have not had any issues and I always get close to max distance on the lil speaker, though a lot depends on the line of site too walls etc It can make a difference.

I would try re pairing the connection first I have had disconnect problems with a few BT speakers because of poor connection.

My Sunex Socket does that sometimes quickly drops the connection but like others have already said the battery level plays into that and with a full charge connections are most often good.

I used my little M12 speaker all day today with a 2.0 battery...my Mp3 player was in the vehicle on the front seat with the side doors and windows shut though my hatch gate was open the speaker was outside on a table about 15 feet away most of the day. When I left tonight I threw the speaker still connected in a cardboard box behind the seat and stuck the player in the pocket of my lunch bag which I put in the back of vehicle for the 35 mile ride to the orchard for resupplies for tomorrow's market then drove 15mi back home listening to tunes all the time. This thing has played continuously all day since at least 9 am to almost 7:30 tonight and when I went to check charges after I finally shut it down the battery was still between 2 and 3 lights :thumbup:
 
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My 2592 also works great.

My 2792 occasionally gets a bug up its *** and gets scratchy w my IPhone 5. Forgetting the device and starting over cures it. Only happens maybe once every 7-9 months.

My 2792 also NEVER liked my old iPhone 4, never could figure out why.

edit: regardless I find it far more likely these are Apple glitches than Milwaukee glitches.

You're probably correct that they're Apple glitches. I have an iPhone5 and an Apple Watch. Once or twice a month, the watch indicates it's not connected to the phone, while the phone indicates that it is connected to the watch. (The watch is correct.) To fix, generally I just have to stop and restart bluetooth on the phone. But sometimes I need to reboot the phone, and once, reboot the watch. Regardless, that's definitely an Apple glitch.
 

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Speaking of anvils - can't we just get one of these machinist guys on this board to turn out some 3/8 anvils to convert the mid torque over to 3/8?

These anvils are case hardened steel, so if you machine the 1/2" one down to 3/8" you'll remove the case and leave the soft center which will fall quickly. You would have to anneal it, machine it then re harden it to the proper case depth.

All very possible to do, but you would need to know the particular alloy used and the case depth and hardness, and then have the ability to perform this heat treatment or farm it out to a heat treat shop. You'll have $2k in material analysis plus heat treatment costs, buying parts, repeating to get it right, etc. Of course once you've done all this and have the recipe, it's just rinse, lather and repeat, but you'd have to sell quite a few to make it anywhere near financially viable.

The machining is the easy part 😀
 

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These anvils are case hardened steel, so if you machine the 1/2" one down to 3/8" you'll remove the case and leave the soft center which will fall quickly. You would have to anneal it, machine it then re harden it to the proper case depth.

All very possible to do, but you would need to know the particular alloy used and the case depth and hardness, and then have the ability to perform this heat treatment or farm it out to a heat treat shop. You'll have $2k in material analysis plus heat treatment costs, buying parts, repeating to get it right, etc. Of course once you've done all this and have the recipe, it's just rinse, lather and repeat, but you'd have to sell quite a few to make it anywhere near financially viable.

The machining is the easy part 😀

Sounds like we have a volunteer..
 

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Anyone have anymore info on the m18 fuel hackzall that is supposedly coming out ? I thought after the NPS17 they said it would be out in oct but i cant find any info for it online and its not on their website anymore.
 

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I can't find a whole lot on the M12 or M18 Right Angle Impact, but the consensus seems to be that it's very underpowered(Actual torque is more like 40ft/lbs Vs. 60 claimed).

If anything I'd get the 1/4" hex version to have a little more versatility, curious if anyone has any experience with it.

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I can't find a whole lot on the M12 or M18 Right Angle Impact, but the consensus seems to be that it's very underpowered(Actual torque is more like 40ft/lbs Vs. 60 claimed).

If anything I'd get the 1/4" hex version to have a little more versatility, curious if anyone has any experience with it.

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Im looking at the M12 RA impact as well. Im looking to use it to fill multiple roles in the RA category: impact, drill and ratchet. Im thinking its the best fit out of those 3 separate tools that can be a jack of all trades.
 

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Im looking at the M12 RA impact as well. Im looking to use it to fill multiple roles in the RA category: impact, drill and ratchet. Im thinking its the best fit out of those 3 separate tools that can be a jack of all trades.
I have the RA drill and ratchet but I figure it would be nice for throwing bits into for tight space hex/torx/Phillips etc. Also I can throw any drive adaptor on it. The impacting would be handy I'm sure. I'm leaning towards the M18 though because of the rotating head and slight higher torque.

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Interesting to note when looking at the RA impacts is that the max rating listed is for fastening torque where with some of other impact wrenches and especially the High Torque the reverse "nut busting" rating far exceeds the fastening torque.

If you plan on using them mainly for fastening/driving operations IMO they generally have satisfactory performance. It'll easily drive long wood screws and its nice not have any torque reaction when tightening up nut/ bolt combo especially where you might inadvertently pinch a finger ...don't ask how I know THAT :D

To break things free it definitely can be hit or miss there depending on the situation and since you cannot lock the head you will often end up using another tool to loosen something at least to get started.

I have the M12 version of the RA impact driver. I didn't find the $50 price difference of the M18 model worth the 5ft lb rating. Overall it is is small enough to fit in a lot of tight places
 
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