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That isn’t true at all, just because YOU have no M12 batteries doesn’t mean many people have none.



Uh...there are plenty of people who have M18 tools and no M12 tools. Likewise, just because YOU have both doesn't mean I'm the only one who has an M18-only arsenal...haha. This is a stupid point to call out, sorry. The 18v line is more versatile, that's a fact. Small tools, big tools, little bit of everything. It's not too hard to believe people have 18v tools and no 12v tools.

There are some M12 tools I want though :) I merely stated reasons for wanting an M18 under hood light. Some things just don't need to be M12 and that is one of them.
 

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Just to give you an idea on how battery compares to corded. Last time I bring up Makita. Promise! [emoji846] My Makita 36v SDS Plus 1 inch can do 0- 5,000bpm and 2.2 pounds of impact energy with two 18v 5.0ah batteries. And I got my weight mixed up with another breaker hammer after yanking the manual it's closer to 12 pounds. I have an older corded 1in SDS Plus that does 4,500bpm with 2 pounds of energy per blow. So the cordless 36v 1 in SDS Plus Makitas are surpassing the corded 1in SDS Plus by a little. The SDS Max I have is a 2in so much larger. That one does 1,100 - 2,200bpm w/14 pounds of impact per blow. So the 36v SDS Plus has surpassed the corded. However it's going to take a lot of battery to match a corded SDS Max. No more talking about Makita now! Sorry!

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Haha yeah the 18x2 idea is a great concept. I never needed a corded vs. cordless comparison though. I was stating that a cordless "air" hammer would be nice, but it's seemingly impossible. Again...again...would love to be proven wrong here. A corded or cordless SDS works in a pinch for certain things (i.e. my earlier example), but it is in no way a replacement for an air hammer. Size/weight/power...no comparison. Only an air hammer can be be an air hammer!
 

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Haha yeah the 18x2 idea is a great concept. I never needed a corded vs. cordless comparison though. I was stating that a cordless "air" hammer would be nice, but it's seemingly impossible. Again...again...would love to be proven wrong here. A corded or cordless SDS works in a pinch for certain things (i.e. my earlier example), but it is in no way a replacement for an air hammer. Size/weight/power...no comparison. Only an air hammer can be be an air hammer!

Oh sorry was bored and just throwing out stats. I agree!

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Haha yeah the 18x2 idea is a great concept. I never needed a corded vs. cordless comparison though. I was stating that a cordless "air" hammer would be nice, but it's seemingly impossible. Again...again...would love to be proven wrong here. A corded or cordless SDS works in a pinch for certain things (i.e. my earlier example), but it is in no way a replacement for an air hammer. Size/weight/power...no comparison. Only an air hammer can be be an air hammer!

Why do you think it’s impossible?
 

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Why do you think it’s impossible?



See post 11099:
Very true. I recently moved across the country and ended up selling my compressor. The other day I needed to knock some pins out of some clamps, so I tried my 1" Fuel SDS with a pointed chisel. It actually worked awesome haha. If you're in a pinch and you have the room, a good SDS can get the job done.



However:

My air hammer (a mid grade Ingersoll, not even close to the best one available) is definitely more powerful and it is definitely a heck of a lot smaller in EVERY way. A cordless version would be so slick, but I honestly don't think it's possible. A rotary hammer IS what it'd have to be - it's an electropneumatic mechanism that does the hitting. Downsizing the tool means downsizing the motor and the components, that means less power. It can't happen. Air is king here. I'd love to be proven wrong though :)
 

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I do believe electric will replace dam near everything that is air powered ,less a few things. a sand blaster is one , a plasma cutter is two but the small stuff like adie grinder with 1 hp will be tough to do also. for now I have enough of bolt to do all.

I too started with all m18 and ended up with m12 and was surprised by the power it delivered. the best for me vs m18 was the compact batteries and driver tools can fit in much tighter places. the new fuel ratchets kick *** too.
 

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I added this guy to my addiction collection.
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$10.00! I wanted it for the metal case. Bonus - the drill/driver, battery, and charger all work.
 

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I ordered the little rechargeable Rover light off of the facebook group(Nick) for $57 shipped. None of the Home Depot's around me have it, so I just ordered the damn thing.
 

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I added this guy to my addiction collection.
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$10.00! I wanted it for the metal case. Bonus - the drill/driver, battery, and charger all work.
That's cool! I would have snatched it up. Any idea as to its age? You don't see a keyed chuck on a cordless very often.

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We have had a long dead 12v ni cad post style one in the barn down at work. Charger and batteries too though someone my have tossed in the trash by now lol. Why is it it seems no one ever wants to get rid of them :lol: I still have a Makita 7.2V with keyed chuck and internal batteries (no removable stick). I wanted to get a new batteries and new diode parts and shipping would cost more than tool.

I would paid $10 just for the box :D
 

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So my heat gun finally came late yesterday afternoon this Smart Post delivery thru USPS by Fed Ex isn't all it's cracked up to be. I was expecting this by Thurs. direct from Fed Ex from the original ship date.

So not much to say really I find it kind of disappointing in that there is no lock on for the trigger switch really what's the point of nicely balanced unit to stand upright or set down pointing straight up if you have to hold the trigger constantly. :dunno: Guess I'm spoiled from some of the industrial guns I used to use.

A few more features would have been nice.

Still beats having to plug in a cord :D


So can someone link me up online with some of the different nozzles?
 

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So my heat gun finally came late yesterday afternoon this Smart Post delivery thru USPS by Fed Ex isn't all it's cracked up to be. I was expecting this by Thurs. direct from Fed Ex from the original ship date.

So not much to say really I find it kind of disappointing in that there is no lock on for the trigger switch really what's the point of nicely balanced unit to stand upright or set down pointing straight up if you have to hold the trigger constantly. :dunno: Guess I'm spoiled from some of the industrial guns I used to use.

A few more features would have been nice.

Still beats having to plug in a cord :D


So can someone link me up online with some of the different nozzles?
How long does it run on the battery?

Anyone get the M12 stapler yet???
 

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My heat gun came a few days ago via DumbPost, too. I actually wish there was a way to boost the fan output for more of like général de-icing, too - like thawing a frozen padlock in the field. But yes, I understand for work like heat shrink you want the heat narrowly directed.
 
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Actually I have the stapler in transit from HD. I had a $50 gift card to use up. I’ll report as soon as I can
Nice I can't wait to hear about it I held out long enough almost brought the Ryobi cordless stapler just because Milwaukee was dragging on about it.
 

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Anyone get a Fuel ratchet kit? Interested what batteeies it really comes with comoact 2.0 or compact 3.0, know description says 2.0 was hoping it was wrong.
 

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So can someone link me up online with some of the different nozzles?

https://www.milwaukeetool.com/accessories/miscellaneous/49-80-0300

Here's the assortment. It's $50 on Amazon. If you click "model options", it'll show you the individual pieces' part numbers plus a few that aren't in the kit and only available separately. I got the two I wanted individually for about half the regular price, one from eBay and one from Amazon AWD.

From the Manufacturer

The 49-80-0300 assortment includes the 49-80-0292 Hook Nozzle, 49-80-0293 Deflector Nozzle, 49-80-0294 Air Spreader Nozzle, and 49-80-0297 Air Reduction Nozzle for most common heat gun applications. Fits all Milwaukee Heat Guns.
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That's cool! I would have snatched it up. Any idea as to its age? You don't see a keyed chuck on a cordless very often.

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We have had a long dead 12v ni cad post style one in the barn down at work. Charger and batteries too though someone my have tossed in the trash by now lol. Why is it it seems no one ever wants to get rid of them :lol: I still have a Makita 7.2V with keyed chuck and internal batteries (no removable stick). I wanted to get a new batteries and new diode parts and shipping would cost more than tool.

I would paid $10 just for the box :D
I felt a little crazy driving 1 hr and spending $40 at a cider mill for cider, pumpkins, and doughnuts on my trip to get the $10 used driver/drill. But it was a warm sunny fall day, so I had fun!

Not sure on the age, I'll see if Google knows.
Update - Milwaukee has a parts diagram dated Feb '91 and wiring instructions dated Nov '89.

I've used it a couple of times already on a small project. It's great having another portable drill to dedicate as a driver, and not have to keep swapping out drill bits and driver bits.

<<... a Makita 7.2V with keyed chuck and internal batteries (no removable stick) ...>>
My first cordless was the same. Great little drill. I think I got $10 in a yard sale, for it.

Ever since DeWalt had a silent recall on their chargers for thermal run-away (fires!), I've only bought Milwaukee.
 
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https://www.milwaukeetool.com/accessories/miscellaneous/49-80-0300

Here's the assortment. It's $50 on Amazon. If you click "model options", it'll show you the individual pieces' part numbers plus a few that aren't in the kit and only available separately. I got the two I wanted individually for about half the regular price, one from eBay and one from Amazon AWD.


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Thks for linkup

How long does it run on the battery?

I don't really know but I had slapped an old 1.5ah battery in it just to use it and it drained that battery in no time at all. :wtf:

So I grabbed the 9.0 from my water pump but I think a 5.0 would easily suffice :p

I did a wire solder repair and heat shrink inside my motorcycle's dash earlier today. I been waiting on the darn cordless solder iron just for this job but got tired of waiting as I wanted to ride today. I used my electric Hexacon solder station with all the cords...PITA :lol:
 
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I probably wont use it that much but it would help when I need to do some wire splices in the car and I don't need to have a lighter with me.
 

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I felt a little crazy driving 1 hr and spending $40 at a cider mill for cider, pumpkins, and doughnuts on my trip to get the $10 used driver/drill. But it was a warm sunny fall day, so I had fun!

Not sure on the age, I'll see if Google knows.

I've used it a couple of times already on a small project. It's great having another portable drill to dedicate as a driver, and not have to keep swapping out drill bits and driver bits.

<<... a Makita 7.2V with keyed chuck and internal batteries (no removable stick) ...>>
My first cordless was the same. Great little drill. I think I got $10 in a yard sale, for it.

Ever since DeWalt had a silent recall on their chargers for thermal run-away (fires!), I've only bought Milwaukee.

Yea wanna laugh, look at what used makita 9.6 drills STILL sell for on eBay..
 

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I ended up ordering the 2782 Fuel Metal Circ. Saw last night, I bought the non fuel version used dirt cheap on EBay, and I LOVE it, it's perfectly capable, but does get very hot and goes through batteries somewhat quick(still fantastic runtime though, I get dozens of heavy cuts with it on a 9.0). I noticed the saw guide is slightly bent, the previous owner def beat on it pretty hard, and was making some of my cuts skewed. That's the main reason I'm buying a new one.

As a bonus, the new one should have a little more power, runtime, and cooler operation. I put this thing through it's paces and it keeps chugging along. I've been doing a lot of fabrication with steel plate lately, and for some things I don't want to deal with dressing edges from a plasma cutter. After a few months I still get surprised at just how clean of a cut this thing makes.

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What I dont get is why dont they have the underhood light in M18? Youd think it would be a no-brainer.

Because then you have to drop 18V down into the nominal 12V range where most LED strips happily run. Adds more complexity and is less efficient than just using a higher capacity 12V battery.

No, that's not at all the case or an issue. M12 is simply a better format due to the size/weight. Balances much better with an M12. Plus is there any reason for an M18 there? So you could run it for 4 days straight without swapping batts?

1. Many people have many M18 batteries and zero M12 batteries.
... ...
3. Many lights (like the under hood light) are stationary and don't really require a subcompact battery form factor. It wouldn't take much design tweaking to make the battery connection an M18 one.


Before the M12 Underhood light came out, I was hoping for a M18 version. Then after it came out, I figured, Milwaukee got this right, no need or M18. But now I see that MacTools (built by Dewalt) just came out with their Underhood light, model MCL045. It runs on Dewalt 20Vmax batteries. See here

After seeing this, I think Milwaukee is being beat by Mac. But that depends on the specs, which I can't find anywhere right now, and the price. But I'd imagine it probably has more lumens(at least it should, otherwise why would Mac even bother releasing it), more run time, and has a proximity sensor so it doesn't drain the battery unnecessarily.


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Correction: I found the specs for the Mac light. https://www.mactools.com/en-us/Ligh.../MCL045M1/20V-MAX-Underhood-COB-LED-Light-Kit

Mac MCL045:
High - 1350 Lumens/6hrs.
Low - 600 Lumens/10.5hrs.
has a built-in motion light and detachable 80 lumen flashlight
1 year warranty
Price: unknown at this time

Compared to...

Milwaukee 2125-20:
High - 1,350 Lumens/4hrs.
Low - 600 Lumens/8hrs.
5 year warranty
Price: $200 bare / $250 w/4.0 and charger
 
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Before the M12 Underhood light came out, I was hoping for a M18 version. Then after it came out, I figured, Milwaukee got this right, no need or M18. But now I see that MacTools (built by Dewalt) just came out with their Underhood light, model MCL045. It runs on Dewalt 20Vmax batteries. See here

After seeing this, I think Milwaukee is being beat by Mac. But that depends on the specs, which I can't find anywhere right now, and the price. But I'd imagine it probably has more lumens(at least it should, otherwise why would Mac even bother releasing it), more run time, and has a proximity sensor so it doesn't drain the battery unnecessarily.


EDIT**
Correction: I found the specs for the Mac light. https://www.mactools.com/en-us/Ligh.../MCL045M1/20V-MAX-Underhood-COB-LED-Light-Kit

Mac MCL045:
High - 1350 Lumens/6hrs.
Low - 600 Lumens/10.5hrs.
has a built-in motion light and detachable 80 lumen flashlight
1 year warranty
Price: unknown at this time

Compared to...

Milwaukee 2125-20:
High - 1,350 Lumens/4hrs.
Low - 600 Lumens/8hrs.
5 year warranty
Price: $200 bare / $250 w/4.0 and charger
Eh, they put out the same lumens, only has a little longer runtime, and I'm guessing it costs ~$400. I wouldn't call that a win really

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Nice I can't wait to hear about it I held out long enough almost brought the Ryobi cordless stapler just because Milwaukee was dragging on about it.

I have mine and used it a bunch to see how it could do. In terms of power, it works great... firing 1/2" long T50s into hard woods no problem. Drive depth was consistent enough for how they are used.

The one thing that takes getting used to is the ramp up. When you fire a staple, you can hear it actually retract and then fire the staple... so if you are using contact triggering, when you press it against the workpiece you get a short delay before it actually fires the staple. While this isn't a big deal, it means I will probably still use my pneumatic T50 staplers for large jobs.

Much more minor complaint, but the magazine takes basically one stick of staples and thats it. So if you see you're getting down, there's no sticking a new one in like my other staplers. It's not exact but there is little room to play with.

Other than that, it's great.

(I have several SureBonder T50 staplers that I use primarily - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00PK1BMR4/?tag=atomicindus08-20)
 

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Just picked up the smaller m18 fuel sds plus rotary hammer. So now I have the d handle model on a couple trucks and the smaller one with me.. went with the smaller version on one to help try and squeeze it into that Husky bag I bought.

Won't claim victory just yet on my eBay purchase this morning until these things make it into my hands and I see they are indeed in good shape. Had my company order a new chain hoist about a month ago from reliable tools. This model retails for about $600 on the low side. Woke up early an emailed the manufacturer to get a price on one with a custom length chain, then said "eh, let's look on eBay". Found a listing with some guy selling 3 of the same model I just had them get. Lightly used, $74.99 each/free shipping.. bought all 3.. so $1,800 of equipment for $225.. I think the company will be pleased..
 

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The start of my milwaukee addiction has began, today I received my 2453-22 kit. (m12 1/4 impact with two 2.0 batteries and it came with a free 2353-20 led spotlight.) Next on the list is some bigger batteries and then the fuel 1/4 and 3/8 rachets.
 
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Next on the list is some bigger batteries and then the fuel 1/4 and 3/8 rachets.

i have found that ebay is the best place to buy batteries, and bare tools also.

assuming, of course, you are not trying to by the newest thing that is still in short supply.

if you are patient, someone will come along and sell batteries for substantially less than mainline stores will. they are usually stripped from kits. waiting until after thanksgiving might be good, since there will be a lot of sales, with ambitious people buying them to split them up (or stripping off the parts they dont want, like batteries and chargers) and sell. . . . .
 

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i have found that ebay is the best place to buy batteries, and bare tools also.

assuming, of course, you are not trying to by the newest thing that is still in short supply.

if you are patient, someone will come along and sell batteries for substantially less than mainline stores will. they are usually stripped from kits. waiting until after thanksgiving might be good, since there will be a lot of sales, with ambitious people buying them to split them up (or stripping off the parts they dont want, like batteries and chargers) and sell. . . . .

The ratchets I'd like to get the new fuel versions but I'm not in a rush to get them so ill keep my eye open for a sale on them come black Friday. Bigger need but still no rush is some 3.0 batteries for my impack and a xc 4.0 or 6.0 for the flashlight.
 

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The flashlight shouldn't be a power hungry tool. A 6.0 for that would be Overkill imo unless you really need that to run for hours and hours.. the original larger sized 3.0 xc pack for that would still give ya alot of runtime and the flat bottom pack. I think home Depot usually sells a 2 pack of the bigger 3.0 batteries for like $69 after black Friday
 
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