The Milwaukee addiction thread! :)

[fordgasm]

I am transitioning from C3 as well. Some of the Ryobi look like exact matches for the C3 most notably the impact wrench. Same specs and same look. Any way tell me how the Milwaukee vac compares to the c3...I absolutely adore that thing. I actually used it to vacuum a flooded basement a few times. I ran it till it killed the 4 lithium batteries I had at the time then let them charge then did it again.

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I have the Craftsman C3 Bluetooth radio and its the same thing as the Ryobi one. I had the C3 300 ft/lbs 1/2 impact wrench which I sold and its almost identical to the Ryobi one I just bought except on the top of the impact the Ryobi has a 3 speed selector switch something the C3 did not. Their drills, impact drivers, recip saws etc are also almost identical since its all made by TTI. I liked the C3 wet/dry vacuum but since I only have 2 compact XCP batteries left (all the other batteries have been sold) and each of those are failing, one wont charge past red and the other wont charge past yellow, I decided to sell it. Come to think of it one of the XCP batteries was bought in January so its still in the 12 month warranty period and I need to take it into Sears, which I'm dreading because last time I did that with a battery in the warranty period I literally had to argue with the manager to replace it at the store even though that's where the warranty instructions tell you to take it. Its no wonder Sears is failing.

The guy who I sold the vacuum to was ecstatic about it. I sold the C3 multitool I had to a member here a while back and he even commented on how it look new and unused. I probably only used it once or twice. The C3 tools never gave me any problems but their batteries are another story....

 

[DFB]

I stand corrected. Honestly Id probably prefer an extension cord hookup instead of an ac adapter to lug around with it and possibly lose. There are tons of extension cords at job worksites and I could see someone losing the ac adapter where as without it all you need is an extension cord. But I'm not a contractor and for the most part will stay in my garage so its not too big an issue.

I use that fan extensively at my outdoor summer market, my worksite job and in my garage at home and I have never used the wall plug! I couldn't even say where it is right now must be in some tool bag or maybe still in the box lol! Battery power has always been more than sufficient for my use mainly 4.0 XC's runs for hours, and would be even better with 5.0 or larger offerings

 

[DFB]

So who has video reviews of the new Fuel M18 Hackzall .Looks quite large does anyone now how much bigger is it than the previous model. Now I wonder if the M12 Fuel be better choice for one handed use as an improvement over my original M12 which I like (can't beat the compact form) just not the best stroke and power for cutting thru studs though it cleanly cuts nails and screws pretty good if removing studs from plate

Maybe just get the full size cip in M18 instead

 

[DerekV]

I stand corrected. Honestly Id probably prefer an extension cord hookup instead of an ac adapter to lug around with it and possibly lose.

I took the power supply and installed it inside the fan. There's a space in there where it just barely fits. Drilled out the hole in the back to fit a 2 prong power tool cord and soldered that directly onto the PS. The cord wraps around the base of the fan when I'm not using AC power.

Works well and no bulky PS to lose or get damaged.

 

[kctyphoon]

The m12 vs m12 fuel models are a little deceiving. The fuel is actually a larger saw, so it's not like it's JUST a brushless upgrade. The fuel is actually Midway in size between the m12 and m18 brushed. I have the fuel and the brushed m18. Both are good, but the m18 brushed strikes me as being more powerful. I have no idea of the specs off hand, but as you go up in models the strokes keep increasing by about 1/8" if I remember. The m18 fuel I'd imagine would have the longest stroke, but I'm guessing.

 

[Dentaltec]

I want the soldering IRON NOW!

 

[DerekV]

Already a gen 2 blower (2724-20):

http://www.acmetools.com/blog/milwaukee-gen-ii-m18-fuel-blower-vs-milwaukee-m18-fuel-blower/
https://www.milwaukeetool.com/power-tools/cordless/2724-20

I don't like the fluff that Milwaukee is spewing for this one. They are trying so hard to make it sound so much better and different than the current one, but it's really only (practically) improved in two areas: 1) higher velocity @ 120mph up from 100mph and 2) just under a pound lighter. The turtle/rabbit speed selector is gimmicky and doesn't seem as good as the current one where you can lock in several different speeds with the thumb dial. Also according to the spec section of the actual product page at Acme, the run time is lower @ 15 minutes from 20 minutes. I guess that backs up the increase in power required get the extra 20mph, but man 15 minutes? As if 20 wasn't bad enough...

This is where having a dual battery system like Makita's 18x2 would be perfect. I have a feeling Milwaukee will stubbornly never go that way though

 

[dacan23]

WTF.... Gen1 just shipped 11 months ago.... They cant be releasing updated versions this quickly.

Already a gen 2 blower (2724-20):
I don't like the fluff that Milwaukee is spewing for this one. They are trying so hard to make it sound so much better and different than the current one, but it's really only (practically) improved in two areas: 1) higher velocity @ 120mph up from 100mph and 2) just under a pound lighter. The turtle/rabbit speed selector is gimmicky and doesn't seem as good as the current one where you can lock in several different speeds with the thumb dial. Also according to the spec section of the actual product page at Acme, the run time is lower @ 15 minutes from 20 minutes. I guess that backs up the increase in power required get the extra 20mph, but man 15 minutes? As if 20 wasn't bad enough...

This is where having a dual battery system like Makita's 18x2 would be perfect. I have a feeling Milwaukee will stubbornly never go that way though

 

[bcradio]

Already a gen 2 blower (2724-20):

I don't like the fluff that Milwaukee is spewing for this one. They are trying so hard to make it sound so much better and different than the current one, but it's really only (practically) improved in two areas: 1) higher velocity @ 120mph up from 100mph and 2) just under a pound lighter. The turtle/rabbit speed selector is gimmicky and doesn't seem as good as the current one where you can lock in several different speeds with the thumb dial. Also according to the spec section of the actual product page at Acme, the run time is lower @ 15 minutes from 20 minutes. I guess that backs up the increase in power required get the extra 20mph, but man 15 minutes? As if 20 wasn't bad enough...

This is where having a dual battery system like Makita's 18x2 would be perfect. I have a feeling Milwaukee will stubbornly never go that way though

Interesting. I agree they should have followed Makita on this one with the dual battery. No real improvement here... they just increased output and decreased runtime.

Maybe they need a one key model so you can set it for your needs.

 

[DerekV]

Interesting. I agree they should have followed Makita on this one with the dual battery. No real improvement here... they just increased output and decreased runtime.

Maybe they need a one key model so you can set it for your needs.

I honestly wouldn't be too surprised if they do this

 

[DerekV]

WTF.... Gen1 just shipped 11 months ago.... They cant be releasing updated versions this quickly.

My thoughts exactly...

 

[Voi]

This is where having a dual battery system like Makita's 18x2 would be perfect. I have a feeling Milwaukee will stubbornly never go that way though

I thought a 36V in series system was rumored for Milwaukee in one of these threads? I guess if they were going to do that this was their chance.

 

[DerekV]

I thought a 36V in series system was rumored for Milwaukee in one of these threads? I guess if they were going to do that this was their chance.

They have a two battery light, but it only requires one battery to function. When two are in there, it drains one at a time.

The only reason why they would do this (that I can think of anyways) is so that you don't NEED two chargers if you only have two batteries. I have four chargers, so naturally I think this is stupid

 

[deberly12]

I thought a 36V in series system was rumored for Milwaukee in one of these threads? I guess if they were going to do that this was their chance.

The wannabe TTI engineers here have talked about it but that doesn't mean squat....or we would have a tire inflator lol

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[kctyphoon]

Pretty sure Milwaukee just didn't like the fact their model isn't outperforming some others.. they have a reputation to protect.

Rumor was there were suppose to be attachments for the string trimmer later on when that came out. Cordless chainsaw also in the works

 

[dkroth]

WTF.... Gen1 just shipped 11 months ago.... They cant be releasing updated versions this quickly.

The announcement of a Gen 2 mid-torque will drop any day now.

[I finally ordered my mid-torque on Cyber Monday which guarantees an updated model is on the way!]



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[dacan23]

They should of known it sucked from development and testing.

If wacker attachments are for a Gen2 model I will be pissed.

Pretty sure Milwaukee just didn't like the fact their model isn't outperforming some others.. they have a reputation to protect.

Rumor was there were suppose to be attachments for the string trimmer later on when that came out. Cordless chainsaw also in the works

Lmao.... Gen2 soldering iron will ship before Gen1.

The announcement of a Gen 2 mid-torque will drop any day now.

[I finally ordered my mid-torque on Cyber Monday which guarantees an updated model is on the way!]



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[ishiboo]

HD has a bunch of advertising for new Milwaukee nailers... are they just new configurations that weren't offered before, or is this Gen2 of the M18 nailers that weren't that well-received? I haven't seen anything anywhere which indicates there are new Milwaukee nailers.

 

[littleponderosa]

School me gents.
I've stayed with this thread for a couple of weeks.
My question is how the hell can you fellas keep all these models/upgrades/updates straight?
I've simply been tryin to figure out what I want and its confusing as hell - like in a maze wandering around but goin nowhere.
Need/want 3/8 pistol grip & ratchet. Assuming 18v is best choice for general service.
Need/want 1/4 ratchet & impact driver - 12v for accessability?
I bought another fly pole but the woman is oblivious & I've gotta give her an idea before she begins to wonder.
Thanks guys
Bill

 

[dacan23]

I have a spreadsheet with all the models and specs but as a longtime addict the model numbers are committed to memory.

M18 Fuel 1/2 Mid Torque Impact, M12 Fuel 3/8 Impact, Ratchets....many choices now regular 3/8 & 1/4, Fuel 1/2, 3/8, & 1/4. If you want a hex impact driver there are so many choices depends on need, M18 Fuel Surge is the best.

School me gents.
I've stayed with this thread for a couple of weeks.
My question is how the hell can you fellas keep all these models/upgrades/updates straight?
I've simply been tryin to figure out what I want and its confusing as hell - like in a maze wandering around but goin nowhere.
Need/want 3/8 pistol grip & ratchet. Assuming 18v is best choice for general service.
Need/want 1/4 ratchet & impact driver - 12v for accessability?
I bought another fly pole but the woman is oblivious & I've gotta give her an idea before she begins to wonder.
Thanks guys
Bill

 

[DFB]

HD has a bunch of advertising for new Milwaukee nailers... are they just new configurations that weren't offered before, or is this Gen2 of the M18 nailers that weren't that well-received? I haven't seen anything anywhere which indicates there are new Milwaukee nailers.

Link??

 

[Dennis Leigh Henry]

Son picked up a Milwaukee double decker tool box... loves it..


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[Distrophe]

WTF.... Gen1 just shipped 11 months ago.... They cant be releasing updated versions this quickly.

Well, $150 for the "new" one or $100 for the current one from certain places.

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[scarrylarry]

Re: The Milwaukee addiction thread! ��

If nobody minds me butting in -

The mid torque is a 1/2" model. It only comes as a Fuel option.. Mid torque is it's name, because it's less powerful than the big high torque model, and much more powerful than the physically smaller 3/8" & 1/2" models. It's advertised torque spec is like 500 ftlbs.

It's in the middle here, between the other 2 sizes of impacts Milwaukee sells. Milwaukee is the only one offering a middle rage impact, hence - "Mid Torque". The idea is it's an option more powerful than the smaller models, but not much bigger physically, and not as powerful as the high torque, but a lot smaller. You can use it wherever it'll fit, from wheel removal to suspension work and anything in between where the smaller guy just doesn't have enough power. My smallest impact here is a 3/8" model, but that particular impact is also available in 1/2" as well. The mid and high torque are both 1/2" only models. The hope is that one day Milwaukee will offer that impact with a 3/8" counterpart.

A "for instance" situation - I was removing the bed off my old 95 f350 dually pick up. The mid torque would not remove some of those bolts that had never been off before, but the bigger high torque would.. the high torque would also press out leaf spring bushings, where the mid torque would not (in my situation anyway).. the small 3/8" may not remove some brake calipers bolts, but the mid torque is small enough and strong enough to be used for that instead.

Thanks for the explanation !
scarrylarry

 

[scarrylarry]

Hi there !

Just received an early Christmas present from my other half . She gave me the Milwaukee M18 2696-24 Combo Kit . 1/2 inch compact Hammer Drill/Driver. 1/4 inch Hex Impact Driver . Sawzall . LED Worklight.



Lucky Fella I am !

scarrylarry

I have been using the M18 drill/driver /hammer drill and also the M18 impact . I have noticed a bit of what I would call run out in both tools ,meaning they don't seem to point dead center when running . Tiny bit of a wobble .Is this normal ?
scarrylarry

 

[ocloc24]

I have been using the M18 drill/driver /hammer drill and also the M18 impact . I have noticed a bit of what I would call run out in both tools ,meaning they don't seem to point dead center when running . Tiny bit of a wobble .Is this normal ?
scarrylarry

The Impact Driver doesn't matter much if it has a little wobble. As for the drill, I'm dealing with the same thing right now. I'm fairly positive it's an issue with the chuck, and I have a high quality replacement on the way. Hopefully that solves the issue

 

[jrp458]

Re: The Milwaukee addiction thread! ��

If nobody minds me butting in -

The mid torque is a 1/2" model. It only comes as a Fuel option.. Mid torque is it's name, because it's less powerful than the big high torque model, and much more powerful than the physically smaller 3/8" & 1/2" models. It's advertised torque spec is like 500 ftlbs.

It's in the middle here, between the other 2 sizes of impacts Milwaukee sells. Milwaukee is the only one offering a middle rage impact, hence - "Mid Torque". The idea is it's an option more powerful than the smaller models, but not much bigger physically, and not as powerful as the high torque, but a lot smaller. You can use it wherever it'll fit, from wheel removal to suspension work and anything in between where the smaller guy just doesn't have enough power. My smallest impact here is a 3/8" model, but that particular impact is also available in 1/2" as well. The mid and high torque are both 1/2" only models. The hope is that one day Milwaukee will offer that impact with a 3/8" counterpart.

A "for instance" situation - I was removing the bed off my old 95 f350 dually pick up. The mid torque would not remove some of those bolts that had never been off before, but the bigger high torque would.. the high torque would also press out leaf spring bushings, where the mid torque would not (in my situation anyway).. the small 3/8" may not remove some brake calipers bolts, but the mid torque is small enough and strong enough to be used for that instead.

Well now I've got to own them all.

 

[Mohawk Dave]

Re: The Milwaukee addiction thread! ��

Well now I've got to own them all.

Other than red lock tight trailer balls and tractor stuff, I never use my 1/2" or 3/4" high torque. The mid torque kicks *** and is so much smaller and lighter.

Definitely get mid torque first, unless you damn well know you need the high torque.

The high torque is insanely powerful. Not too many things around a normal shop or normal vehicles that would ever require it. I'm sure there is a couple outliers but few and far between.

 

[chrisnazzy]

So who has video reviews of the new Fuel M18 Hackzall .Looks quite large does anyone now how much bigger is it than the previous model. Now I wonder if the M12 Fuel be better choice for one handed use as an improvement over my original M12 which I like (can't beat the compact form) just not the best stroke and power for cutting thru studs though it cleanly cuts nails and screws pretty good if removing studs from plate

Maybe just get the full size cip in M18 instead

Size comparison between M18 Hackzall and new M18 Fuel Hackzall.

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[DFB]

Size comparison between M18 Hackzall and new M18 Fuel Hackzall.

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Thanks for those pictures

Decisions...decisions


Be pretty cool to see all 4 models together

 

[Jamie V]

The Milwaukee addiction thread!

Thanks for those pictures



Decisions...decisions





Be pretty cool to see all 4 models together

Just my $0.02 but why would you buy something this big instead of the M18 regular sawzall?

I thought the whole point was for it to be small and compact???

 

[DFB]

Chris Snazzy I hear what your saying on size and power of a full size Sawzall vs the Hackzall obviously the major point is the one handed use and generally lighter weight with these designs. Hold your pipe or board with one hand and still operate the saw.

They do say New M18 Fuel does offer some major refinements over the original brushed version counter balancing less blade chatter and the longest stroke of them all. And the cost isn't really out of line (to me anyhow) especially with a promo discount.

IMO if a person was do mostly wood construction demolition Hackzalls don't really cut it. Smaller chores are much better. I'm on ladder a lot. Light weight is good but having less vibration though would be better. Lot's of people seem happy with the M12 Fuel. Thinking backwards now maybe should have just stepped up a notch when the M12 Fuel deal with the free 6.0 was around

 

[purplezr2]

What is the PN for the mid torque,

I assume the high torque was the one that was being sold at tool barn on BF

 

[Buckgnarly]

Re: The Milwaukee addiction thread! ��

Other than red lock tight trailer balls and tractor stuff, I never use my 1/2" or 3/4" high torque. The mid torque kicks *** and is so much smaller and lighter.

Definitely get mid torque first, unless you damn well know you need the high torque.

The high torque is insanely powerful. Not too many things around a normal shop or normal vehicles that would ever require it. I'm sure there is a couple outliers but few and far between.

Rust. Though I agree 100% on using the smaller mid WAY more often, I have found the limits of the even the full size size and it's that damn rust. There have been a few times the 2663 has failed, and the IR2235 has come out...even that has failed, then it's the blue wrench. Damn I am so jealous of you guys with no rust....

All that said, I am anxiously awaiting my new high torque....have some 1-1/2" bolt heads on a 1984 Lull that has lived outdoors in New England it's whole life...we'll see how the new gun does!

 

[DerekV]

For small stuff, the Hackzall (all models) are easier to wield. For any real demo work, like what's shown in most of the new M18 Fuel HZ's promo pics, full size Sawzall all day...

I really like the size for the non-Fuel M12 HZ. It is very small and light. The only downside is that for the 20 minutes I used one, I stalled it out constantly. If it didn't stall, it bogged down. New blades and all. It really doesn't have a lot of power. Maybe I'm just hard on tools, I don't know, but I do know the M12 Fuel HZ is huge in comparison. It's more or less the same size as the non-Fuel M18 HZ, which as shown a few posts back is essentially the same size as the new M18 Fuel HZ.

I hope an M18 Fuel HZ is in my stocking this year

 

[DerekV]

What is the PN for the mid torque,

I assume the high torque was the one that was being sold at tool barn on BF

2861-20 with friction ring

2860-20 with pin detent

 

[deberly12]

Re: The Milwaukee addiction thread! ��

Other than red lock tight trailer balls and tractor stuff, I never use my 1/2" or 3/4" high torque. The mid torque kicks *** and is so much smaller and lighter.

Definitely get mid torque first, unless you damn well know you need the high torque.

The high torque is insanely powerful. Not too many things around a normal shop or normal vehicles that would ever require it. I'm sure there is a couple outliers but few and far between.

This is probably good advice...the mid is probably the best if you only have if you only have one. I have the 3/8 compact and the high torque. The compact does about 80% and is as small as an impact driver. Actually I have an adapter and use it for that too. It will even take the lugs off my diesel if I really push it. I did it once during my initial testing. I don't mind the size and weight of the big one for that extra 20% as much as I like knowing that there probably isn't a lot anywhere that I can't break loose....or just plain break lol. If you are looking to save a couple bucks. The high (gen 1) and compact can easily be found used. There used to be a combo kit with them and the angle grinder (also well worth having). The mid torque is still new enough that there probably aren't many used. Of course there is a gen2 high torque that is even newer and stronger.

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[dacan23]

One thing a Makita guy told me is on theirs you can actvate the saw bu just squeezing the back piece of the body that sticks out, that sounds helpful in dome situations

Chris Snazzy I hear what your saying on size and power of a full size Sawzall vs the Hackzall obviously the major point is the one handed use and generally lighter weight with these designs. Hold your pipe or board with one hand and still operate the saw.

They do say New M18 Fuel does offer some major refinements over the original brushed version counter balancing less blade chatter and the longest stroke of them all. And the cost isn't really out of line (to me anyhow) especially with a promo discount.

IMO if a person was do mostly wood construction demolition Hackzalls don't really cut it. Smaller chores are much better. I'm on ladder a lot. Light weight is good but having less vibration though would be better. Lot's of people seem happy with the M12 Fuel. Thinking backwards now maybe should have just stepped up a notch when the M12 Fuel deal with the free 6.0 was around

 

[deberly12]

Re: The Milwaukee addiction thread!

Just my $0.02 but why would you buy something this big instead of the M18 regular sawzall?

I thought the whole point was for it to be small and compact???

Yes one hand is the key... I am thinking about getting one for pruning in the tree. But I may get a top handle chainsaw instead...or man up and use a hand saw.... haven't decided yet. But I tried a friend's 18 non fuel and it beat my c3 full size. So they certainly aren't wimpy. If you are above the ground you should use a lanyard and there really isn't any way to attach one to the M12.

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[scarrylarry]

The Impact Driver doesn't matter much if it has a little wobble. As for the drill, I'm dealing with the same thing right now. I'm fairly positive it's an issue with the chuck, and I have a high quality replacement on the way. Hopefully that solves the issue

Ocloc24

Thanks for your reply, appreciated !
scarrylarry