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Those probably fell off a truck somewhere. :dunno:

My feeling is these guys found a way to buy overstocked /outdated batteries direct from Milwaukee or the manufacturer. And when I say outdated - I mean, that there is likely a limit as to how old Milwaukee will let batteries sit before they are packaged into sets to sell.. seeing as the tools and batteries come from different manufactures, the batteries probably arrive in huge bulk, always more then needed... and if say 500 or 1000 of these things reach a self imposed factory shelf life, I'm guessing they are liquidated at near cost to make use of the newer shipments that arrive.. I'd guess it's more likely they are sold from Milwaukee through a bilk auction site. There are even guys on the forum doing this - but as said - nobody will give up the info cause they are scared other people will start doing the same thing.

This is pure conjecture on my part..
 
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My feeling is these guys found a way to buy overstocked /outdated batteries direct from Milwaukee or the manufacturer. And when I say outdated - I mean, that there is likely a limit as to how old Milwaukee will let batteries sit before they are packaged into sets to sell.. seeing as the tools and batteries come from different manufactures, the batteries probably arrive in huge bulk, always more then needed... and if say 500 or 1000 of these things reach a self imposed factory shelf life, I'm guessing they are liquidated at near cost to make use of the newer shipments that arrive.. I'd guess it's more likely they are sold from Milwaukee through a bilk auction site. There are even guys on the forum doing this - but as said - nobody will give up the info cause they are scared other people will start doing the same thing.

This is pure conjecture on my part..

The "shelf life" part sounds like BS. Yeah, stock should be rotated, but to actually have a problem of having such an over supply of batteries that they need to be liquidated?

That just defies logic.

They are hermetically sealed in apocalypse-proof packaging. How can they go bad? :lol_hitti

It's much more likely that there is a supply chain of either (1) counterfeit batteries made in the facility that manufactures the OEM for Milwaukee, or (2) there is a steady supply of manufacturer "seconds"- either cosmetic or performance or both.
 

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But if your battery warranty goes by the serial number with no receipt then “shelf life” does matter.
 

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My feeling is these guys found a way to buy overstocked /outdated batteries direct from Milwaukee or the manufacturer. And when I say outdated - I mean, that there is likely a limit as to how old Milwaukee will let batteries sit before they are packaged into sets to sell.. seeing as the tools and batteries come from different manufactures, the batteries probably arrive in huge bulk, always more then needed... and if say 500 or 1000 of these things reach a self imposed factory shelf life, I'm guessing they are liquidated at near cost to make use of the newer shipments that arrive.. I'd guess it's more likely they are sold from Milwaukee through a bilk auction site. There are even guys on the forum doing this - but as said - nobody will give up the info cause they are scared other people will start doing the same thing.

This is pure conjecture on my part..

I have found the opposite on the eBay and Amazon Milwaukee batteries that I have purchased. Checking the date codes on them when they arrived showed that they were freshly off the boat from China and were manufactured only a couple months prior. I am still at a loss as to how they can sell them so cheap... hopefully they hold up the same.
 

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Had bought PO OK kit with 9.0 at HD, had a $50 coupon. Plan all along was to return the 9.0. Just got a huge hassle at cust svc returnimg the 9, 2 mgrs got involved, claimed I had to return everything, my position was always refund value of 9 on reciept. They said would do this one time only....

Perhaps the death of fun is finally coming to our fav promo trick.
 

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The "shelf life" part sounds like BS. Yeah, stock should be rotated, but to actually have a problem of having such an over supply of batteries that they need to be liquidated?

That just defies logic.

They are hermetically sealed in apocalypse-proof packaging. How can they go bad? :
It's much more likely that there is a supply chain of either (1) counterfeit batteries made in the facility that manufactures the OEM for Milwaukee, or (2) there is a steady supply of manufacturer "seconds"- either cosmetic or performance or both.


You're misunderstanding what I mean by shelf life. It's not like an expiration date. Simply means they may have a time frame that through their own statistics it becomes "not worth" holding onto items beyond a time limit they've self imposed, or through regulations cannot keep it any longer. Not everything is about making money at every turn - it's about making the most at the end of the journey, even if you take a loss at some intervals. TIME is the biggest commodity, and it cannot be bought or sold. A small loss (or rather, giving up a bigger profit potential) at a few turns can keep the bigger more important wheels spinning freely at the end. It's about the big picture, not the small steps.. you take a loss here to free up the potential to make more down the road.. in some cases it might be "yes - we have all this stuff that if we sell we could make "x" amount of dollars - but that could take 6 months to make that money" - or "we can liquidate all this, break even or have a much smaller profit - but we'll have liquid cash in a week and we can use that money to pay for this other stuff we need now". What is the best use of our assets TODAY, - so we can keep focusing on what we want to achieve tomorrow..

some places just can't hold onto stock for too long - has nothing to do with how long it will last.. years ago before fiber optics became a big thing, at Verizon we would have to junk, literally cut up or roll up brand new copper cables to be sent off to the scrap yard.. there's a name for this corporate hoarding of material, that places just can't keep material laying around.. there could be a cable say, 8 pounds a foot of weight, maybe 1000' long, that we needed for a job. But if there was a delay or the reel just became "over aged" - it would be junked and reordered..

Some places, not saying Milwaukee, through regulation have to abide by this. It's like corporate hoarding. Was explained to me a long time ago using air conditioners as an example. So - if you sold a/c units, you couldn't buy up units from everywhere and just keep them sitting around for months and months waiting for the summer to hit, essentially starving out your competition of supply. Big companies would have the power to put smaller places out of business easily simply through buying up a limited supply line, and leaving them with nothing to sell.

I think there's a guy on this thread that sells Milwaukee batteries on eBay. The most he'd say - is that yes they are real, yes they are from Milwaukee - and that's all he'd say about it cause he figured out how to do it, and was not gonna just let everyone in on info he had to find on his own. I completely understand why he'd not wanna share with a forum filled with people he doesn't know, it just kills me not being to satisfy my own curiosity.. lol. I'd never have to patience to sit and do all that myself anyway..

These big companies don't think or act like you or I might.. one day it's - run run run, and then AS SOON AS, a certain dollar amount in the budget, or some predetermined figure gets reached, the brakes slam on - and they'd just throw away everything they didn't use instead of leaving material to pick from for the next few months.. same reason why they might lease a bunch of trucks for 10 years, doing a one year lease. Way more expensive, but if the day comes where they decide they wanna spend money somewhere else - 20 trucks are off the lot and that money being spent on them goes somewhere else in a week.

Here - check this out.. they did this as EVERY location years back.. my garage filled up 4 40 yard dumpsters of all brand new material, and a lot of stuff just laying around. Mostly brand new stuff that we used everyday - and the fiber deployment brakes slammed on. Straight to the dumps it all went.. you'd make a fortune just selling it all back to them months later.

Again - ALL conjecture on my part.. in reality it could simply be they cannot keep more than a certain amount in the warehouse cause of fire codes, and they need to sell off 5 pallets of stuff to make sure they don't go over their limit when the next shipment arrives in 2 weeks..
 
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What's impressive to me, is Milwaukee's first model is STILL a very competitive tool and probably the oldest in that shoot out.

The 2663 might be it’s first 1/2 drive impact. It’s still a useful tool but not competitive. The 2763 is relatively new in comparison.

In contrast, the IR W7150 is an old tool that is still competitive.
 

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Yup the IR is 5yrs old and brushed, surely a new brushless IR would regain the top spot unless the screwed up the new model.
The 2663 might be it’s first 1/2 drive impact. It’s still a useful tool but not competitive. The 2763 is relatively new in comparison.

In contrast, the IR W7150 is an old tool that is still competitive.
 

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All I know, is I've been posting here and there about lending out all my impacts and ratchet to someone at work - and how I "knew" he was gonna play a game when I started asking for them back - cause he kept em for like 2 months and would avoid talking about them - to try and hold on to them.. I think 2 weeks or maybe longer - I finally said hey man any chance you can bring my tools back?? Told me yea yea yea.. brought back the ratchet and mid torque.. said "oh I FORGOT the others".. well it's been two weeks since he "forgot them".. this is why I stopped lending tools out..
 

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All I know, is I've been posting here and there about lending out all my impacts and ratchet to someone at work - and how I "knew" he was gonna play a game when I started asking for them back - cause he kept em for like 2 months and would avoid talking about them - to try and hold on to them.. I think 2 weeks or maybe longer - I finally said hey man any chance you can bring my tools back?? Told me yea yea yea.. brought back the ratchet and mid torque.. said "oh I FORGOT the others".. well it's been two weeks since he "forgot them".. this is why I stopped lending tools out..


Ohhh and see...he thought you GAVE them to him :lol:
 

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He's trying to start up his own shop again , just working weekends for now.. said to myself - ok, i dont mind him doing side work here and there with them, but I don't want $800 of my stuff getting beat up now in a shop - he can buy his own for that.. I KNEW he was gonna do this.. and I guess he thinks I'm stupid enough to not realize he's playing a game now. He loves to "play games" at work too. These guys know that if they just sit around wasting enough time, that I just get fed up and do everything myself cause I wanna go home.

It's like a nuclear standoff with them sometimes, always hoping someone else is gonna be the one to get up and do something - usually me - yet everyone loves to complain about how they "need to get outta here". If they spent half as much time working as they do complaining and bickering - they'd shave 2 hours off their day.. Right now id settle for people getting to work on time.. got 1 guy, just started a month ago - from day 1 - 20 min late everyday.. then 30.. last week two days in a row he shows up 45 min late, then a hour.. blows my mind how you have the audacity to do that being so new..

Have this other job we do under contract for cell antennas.. Finally said - this is ******* stupid how long this takes.. got fed up - did the last one by myself with 2 cheerleaders on the ground that are suppose to be helping - finished 3.5 hours earlier then any other one I did where these guys are involved..

Ok - sorry -. End of rant...
 
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If they spent half as much time working as they do complaining and bickering - they'd shave 2 hours off their day..


Haha when I was department manager in the electronics factory we had one guy was always messing around...one excuse after another why his machine wasn't setup to run blah, blah, blah, machine needed to cleaned, changed over part was broke etc.

Anyhow MY boss told this guy one day "You know if you spent even half the time doing the job as you spend figuring out how to get out of doing it you could have the rest of the day to yourself to do nothing." :lol:

I sympathize with your plight KC :)
 

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The Milwaukee addiction thread! 😊

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1 guy, just started a month ago - from day 1 - 20 min late everyday.. then 30.. last week two days in a row he shows up 45 min late, then a hour.. blows my mind how you have the audacity to do that being so new..


He does it because he gets away with it. I’d give him 1 day off with no pay the next time he is late, then 2 days the 2nd time, then a week for the third time. Every time he is late I’d send him home instantly! Hit him in the wallet and I bet he moves on or gets to work on time.
 

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Used a friends m18 heat gun with 5a battery for the last two days and glad I didn't buy one. Doesn't get hot enough to shrink tubing in a reasonable amount of time on 75f degree day. There is no on/off button, you have to hold the button to keep it going.

It could be useful if you needed to do one or two pieces of 1" tubing. For the 2ft piece of 3/8 I just used it on, it would be quicker to get out an extension cord and use a normal heat gun.
 
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Used a friends m18 heat gun with 5a battery for the last two days and glad I didn't buy one. Doesn't get hot enough to shrink tubing in a reasonable amount of time on 75f degree day. There is no on/off button, you have to hold the button to keep it going.

It could be useful if you needed to do one or two pieces of 1" tubing. For the 2ft piece of 3/8 I just used it on, it would be quicker to get out an extension cord and use a normal heat gun.

It doesn't have a toggle switch? That is bizarre.
 

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The cordless heat gun is definitely not a corded replacement.. think shrink tape and small projects are what it's best for.. and that's WITHOUT me even using the thing yet.. tips might make a big difference depending on projects.
 

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Ya I think a concentrating nozzle tip would help immensely. Doesn't one of them in the kit have a reflector too?

Why it doesn't have lock switch is beyond my comprehension :dunno:
 

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There's a host of tips to pick from.. I think I bought 3 or 4 and still haven't even removed them from the package yet.. heating up pvc pipe to bend it, probably not the best use of the cordless, but I agree a nozzle would probably make a big difference.
 

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He's trying to start up his own shop again , just working weekends for now.. said to myself - ok, i dont mind him doing side work here and there with them, but I don't want $800 of my stuff getting beat up now in a shop - he can buy his own for that.. I KNEW he was gonna do this.. and I guess he thinks I'm stupid enough to not realize he's playing a game now. He loves to "play games" at work too. These guys know that if they just sit around wasting enough time, that I just get fed up and do everything myself cause I wanna go home.

It's like a nuclear standoff with them sometimes, always hoping someone else is gonna be the one to get up and do something - usually me - yet everyone loves to complain about how they "need to get outta here". If they spent half as much time working as they do complaining and bickering - they'd shave 2 hours off their day.. Right now id settle for people getting to work on time.. got 1 guy, just started a month ago - from day 1 - 20 min late everyday.. then 30.. last week two days in a row he shows up 45 min late, then a hour.. blows my mind how you have the audacity to do that being so new..

Have this other job we do under contract for cell antennas.. Finally said - this is ******* stupid how long this takes.. got fed up - did the last one by myself with 2 cheerleaders on the ground that are suppose to be helping - finished 3.5 hours earlier then any other one I did where these guys are involved..

Ok - sorry -. End of rant...

Why would you loan tools to such a tool? I don't get it. Worried about saying no?

I am a hard *** when it comes to loaning certain things. For instance, my dad can borrow tools but same day only, pick it up in the AM bring it back that day. This is because he does not take care of the tools like I do for more than a day, maybe two. So he is on a short leash.

One of my best friends cannot borrow anything gas or diesel powered as all of his gas is stale and his diesel grows stuff. So he isn't allowed to borrow anything because he is to lazy to stop by the gas station to refuel. We have had very frank conversations about this. Every once in a while I'll go do the work for him but not often, he just has to rent equipment.
 

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Oh boy lets not get into loaning or "borrowing" tools :lol:

My GC contractor buddy is the worst. At one time things were good for a lot people in the contract trades and there was a lot of mingling on some jobsites. Wasn't much of problem to borrow what u needed from someone without getting your own for one off job A metal cutoff saw or tile saw, bandsaw or SDS hammer. But time marches on a lot of guys aren't even the business anymore or just don't loan tools like they once did maybe money is tight. But my buddy never buys a tool he will spend an entire work day chasing one down to borrow. When we were working together my garage was open to him I went to work somewhere else and I come home and stuff be missing :lol: I call him and ask if he was there "Oh ya I forgot to tell ya" :wtf:

Worse part was he liked to loan tools that weren't even his to other people

I let him use the 2763 came back all battle scarred

He be lucky now if I'd loan him even my 12v ni cad Makita drill/driver. The one I never use. He needed a new drill his cordless Makita crapped out so he bought a Ryobi 1/2" side handle corded drill for cheap I had so much fun watching him try to drive screws with THAT!
 

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Hey can anyone with a 12v ratchet confirm that its okay to use chrome sockets with it?
 

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Hey can anyone with a 12v ratchet confirm that its okay to use chrome sockets with it?

Well the owners manual recommends impact grade accessories :eek:

But I've used chrome sockets before with no ill effects :spit:


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Attaching and Removing Accessories...

"These tools are intended only for use with accessories designed for impact tools. Other sockets could shatter or break, causing injury. 1. Use only appropriate Square Drive Sockets. 2. To attach a socket or other accessory, align the accessory with the drive anvil and push it firmly onto the tool. 3. To remove the accessory, pull the accessory off the drive anvil."
 

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Hey can anyone with a 12v ratchet confirm that its okay to use chrome sockets with it?

I haven't had any issues with that, I don't see why it would be necessary because there is no impact force. As for the manual recommending impact accessories, they either used generic language from their impact tools, or they are just covering their butts.
 

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Well the owners manual recommends impact grade accessories :eek:

But I've used chrome sockets before with no ill effects :spit:


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Attaching and Removing Accessories...

"These tools are intended only for use with accessories designed for impact tools. Other sockets could shatter or break, causing injury. 1. Use only appropriate Square Drive Sockets. 2. To attach a socket or other accessory, align the accessory with the drive anvil and push it firmly onto the tool. 3. To remove the accessory, pull the accessory off the drive anvil."
A ratchet just spins, why an impact grade socket is recommended? [emoji848]

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Hey can anyone with a 12v ratchet confirm that its okay to use chrome sockets with it?
Nope.. chrome sockets will instantly explode if used.

Yes. You can use whatever socket your heart desires. It's a ratchet after all
 

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Speaking of cheap chrome sockets (and using impacts) another tool vendor at my flea mkt gave me a nice little 1/4" drive set of no name sockets for free. I says to myself hey these might be just right for my little M12 2452 impact wrench. The cheap @ss socket actually twisted and deformed on the anvil and I had work one off using pliers! :lol:

I was getting concerned I was going to ruin the hog ring and washer by the time I got done.

Didn't break though :D
 

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Does anyone have a lead on a good price on the Milwaukee hammers?
Thanks!
Charlie

I have the Fiberglass handled one #48-22-9316

Home Depot is as competitive as anywhere on the hammers IF they have them in stock. My store does not have them. I ordered mine from ACME Tool was part of larger order. Free shipping no sales tax
 

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Acme has 15% off hand tools I think. Once in a while there will be promos, last one I got came with free screwdriver set. Zoro with 20%+ coupon has a good price on hand tools.

Does anyone have a lead on a good price on the Milwaukee hammers?
Thanks!
Charlie
 

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I like Milwakee, but recently learned they are a chinesse manufacturer... pretty interesting considering their tools are very good. (kind of bothers my a bit that they are no made in USA like DeWalt.)
 

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It's not that the Chinese can't make decent (and even good) quality stuff, it's that stuff that's coming to America is generally being made over in order to save a company money.. so guess what you get? Cheap stuff.

Not always, obviously, but it's not nearly as black and white as a lot of people seem to believe. In my opinion anyways.
 
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