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[firworks]

This just arrived:
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The Big Bertha of M12 batteries. I suspect it's more like a 7.0/7.5Ah battery but it was dirt cheap. I took it apart. The cells are unlabeled / sleeved but the construction inside is much better than I expected. They look just like the pink Samsung INRs out of a laptop battery I disassembled. The connector at the top is worse than some of the Powerextra off brand batteries I have but still workable.

I got this to leave in the trunk for using with the inflator.

 

[Mohawk Dave]

I used the inflator last night to top off 8 trailer tires. All tires were just 205/70/15s and all started at 40 to 44 psi. I took all eight to 50psi as stated on sidewall as max inflation pressure.

It did it, but wasn't thrilled about it. I started to top off my ninth tire (spare) and it tripped the thermal so I stopped for the night.

I ran thru an XC 3.0 pretty quickly and then switched to a 6.0. I think it's a bit comical Milwaukee is packaging these w a compact 2.0 in HD.

I was disappointed from the start that they released the inflator as M12 and not M18.

I always told Milwaukee they market to tradesmen w 3/4t+ trucks and the inflator should be able to take a neglected, say, 275/70/17 from 15psi to 80psi on a single battery. I think an M18 could do this but the M12 doesn't stand a chance. It's definitely a Johnny Homeowner with-a-Mazda3 kinda tool.

I did see in a random FB ad recently that DeWalt is releasing a "20V" inflator so maybe that'll light a fire under Milwaukee's *** to make a more heavy duty unit.

I fell ya. I have done 3 passenger cars and love it. Done my yard wagons and wheelbarrow/dolly stuff.

But offroading with 37" tires aired down, it would take like 40 minutes to air up (duty cycle) from 16 to 32 psi. I'm going to try it for just 16 to 24 psi...that will at least feel better on the road until we get to a gas station.

(I really should just spend the $ and get a nice Viair set up...)

 

[a52-830]

according to this page:

https://www.acmetools.com/blog/milwaukee-m18-fuel-drills-improved-again/

the new M18 drills are largely comparable to the existing ones. here is a table from the page:

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they arrive at the same prices as the old ones.

so, why wait for the new one, when the difference appears to be that the new one is .6 inches shorter, and slightly heavier?

i must be missing something . . . . ..

 

[Crazyjake8493]

What do you mean by "wasn't thrilled about it."?

A problem with an M18 version is heat. Sure the M18 will push that much harder and with more capacity, but then you have extra heat to get rid of. Now you need a larger cooling system (fan, duct) and you've just built a $200 tool.

From what I've seen of the Milwaukee range they know their customer. I assume the put some thought into determining the M12 inflatior was the profit maximizing tool for the given market.




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I think people expected too much from the inflator. It’s a great tool for what it is: topping off low car/truck tires, filling trailer tires and other smaller tires, or for an emergency fill of a plugged flat tire. I’ve been really happy with mine. It’s not meant to be a “fill your flat tire every day because it leaks” type of tool.

I’d like to see an M18 compressor for nail guns and staplers in the future.

 

[Ign]

I fell ya. I have done 3 passenger cars and love it. Done my yard wagons and wheelbarrow/dolly stuff.

But offroading with 37" tires aired down, it would take like 40 minutes to air up (duty cycle) from 16 to 32 psi. I'm going to try it for just 16 to 24 psi...that will at least feel better on the road until we get to a gas station.

(I really should just spend the $ and get a nice Viair set up...)

24psi is the most I ever ran w 37's in a 6000# full-size Bronco. Granted, this was back when 15's were still the norm and thus 37x12.50x15. I was also always a believer in narrow wheels as psuedo-beadlocks so I ran a 15x7....which would also theoretically create a narrower contact patch & thus run cooler on the highway.

But I never trailered it....would run around all day at 70mph and 24psi.... GY MT/R radials

BUT....I wouldn't expect to use a cordless inflator for airing up and down like this....an engine driven York is the ticket at that point......

 

[ABSTIFFGS]

Out of the 30 batteries or so that I have, I finally had one fail on me. It's an M12 6.0. Gives an alternating flashing red and green error code. I guess it's time to figure out to try and get a warranty. Is there any other option to try and get it to come back to life? Or am I boned?

 

[PelicanPines]

Out of the 30 batteries or so that I have, I finally had one fail on me. It's an M12 6.0. Gives an alternating flashing red and green error code. I guess it's time to figure out to try and get a warranty. Is there any other option to try and get it to come back to life? Or am I boned?

Batteries do wear out... I would try the warranty first... then if that failed... drive the battery to Batteries Plus to have them reload it with new cells. It's been a while since I used them but years ago... I had them do a few 36v Dewalts successfully. NiCads tho.

Keep us updated of if the warranty thing works or fails. I have been pretty happy with the warranty dealings I have had with Milwaukee.

 

[ocloc24]

according to this page:

https://www.acmetools.com/blog/milwaukee-m18-fuel-drills-improved-again/

the new M18 drills are largely comparable to the existing ones. here is a table from the page:

View attachment 773387

they arrive at the same prices as the old ones.

so, why wait for the new one, when the difference appears to be that the new one is .6 inches shorter, and slightly heavier?

i must be missing something . . . . ..

I brought this up when they first announced it, I think its partially the fact that after a couple years 1200in/lbs is still the strongest cordless drill on the market. I'm curious if they're nervous from a liability standpoint to go much higher due to possible wrist injury.

I personally pre ordered this first before anything else. One, the compactness will be nice, and more importantly, they said they heard the feedback on the chuck issues and upgraded to a better chuck. If that's true, it makes this the best cordless drill on the market. The last one had the most power, but the #1 complaint I've heard over and over again is the chuck. I loved everything else about it enough to go buy a chuck and put it on mine. The original one was pretty bad. Both of mine had pretty bad run out, and didn't grip too well.

 

[DFB]

Out of the 30 batteries or so that I have, I finally had one fail on me. It's an M12 6.0. Gives an alternating flashing red and green error code. I guess it's time to figure out to try and get a warranty. Is there any other option to try and get it to come back to life? Or am I boned?

I have had battery flash codes before...

sometimes switching chargers work or even just unplugging replugging with battery in. Try some different sequences

Never had one actually fail yet.

I even spilled a beer in a charger once

Still worked after it dried out

 

[Beowulf]

Anyone have the part number for the new little tape measure that has a magnet in the body so it can be stuck to the side of a tool box?

 

[kctyphoon]

This just arrived:
View media item 83475
The Big Bertha of M12 batteries. I suspect it's more like a 7.0/7.5Ah battery but it was dirt cheap. I took it apart. The cells are unlabeled / sleeved but the construction inside is much better than I expected. They look just like the pink Samsung INRs out of a laptop battery I disassembled. The connector at the top is worse than some of the Powerextra off brand batteries I have but still workable.

I got this to leave in the trunk for using with the inflator.

Yea those are on eBay and Amazon.. I just saw them when I bought the 2 Powerextra batteries I just got.. it would be cool for someone to actually test the capacity of them. Even the 2.5 Powerextra units are overrated a bit. I'd say if it did 6 it would still decent

 

[FloorPaint]

Anyone have the part number for the new little tape measure that has a magnet in the body so it can be stuck to the side of a tool box?

Here's a link that may be useful: https://www.milwaukeetool.com/Products/Hand-Tools/Measuring/Magnetic%20Tape%20Measures

 

[DFB]

So yesterday I ran the big BT speaker on the 4.0 WITH the tablet plugged in the onboard usb port to see just how long it would last. Basically cut the run time in half about 7 hrs at most maybe. I started around 7 am and it went completely dead somewhere around 2 pm.

 

[DerekV]

Noticed this at HD yesterday. Little bit of battery model rebranding.

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[purplezr2]

I used the inflator last night to top off 8 trailer tires. All tires were just 205/70/15s and all started at 40 to 44 psi. I took all eight to 50psi as stated on sidewall as max inflation pressure.

It did it, but wasn't thrilled about it. I started to top off my ninth tire (spare) and it tripped the thermal so I stopped for the night.

I ran thru an XC 3.0 pretty quickly and then switched to a 6.0. I think it's a bit comical Milwaukee is packaging these w a compact 2.0 in HD.

I was disappointed from the start that they released the inflator as M12 and not M18.

I always told Milwaukee they market to tradesmen w 3/4t+ trucks and the inflator should be able to take a neglected, say, 275/70/17 from 15psi to 80psi on a single battery. I think an M18 could do this but the M12 doesn't stand a chance. It's definitely a Johnny Homeowner with-a-Mazda3 kinda tool.

I did see in a random FB ad recently that DeWalt is releasing a "20V" inflator so maybe that'll light a fire under Milwaukee's *** to make a more heavy duty unit.

Maybe my exceptions were low, but I thought it worked awesome. I think posted earlier in this thread about my results of using it on bike tires and car tires, and I was impressed. I honestly didn't expect to do as well as it did.

Honestly I think it is awesome, if I need to do a bunch of tires I plan to uses a compressor, I don't see it as a replacement, but more of a quick grab substitute.

 

[Ign]

If the battery has a date code within 3 years they'll warranty it I'd say.

I once sent in an M18 compact that was dead on the floor model of an impact driver. It had sat on the display so long at HD it just wouldn't take a charge. I included my receipt and they just sent me a new battery. I only included receipt because it was coded years ago - outside of warranty from date of manufacture.

 

[225]

Come on stubby impacts.

 

[Crazyjake8493]

Come on stubby impacts.

I use my M18 mid torque a lot, and I'm itching to get the 1/2" stubby impact, even though I don't need one. $159 bare tool, September release. I'll probably have to order mine on Acme since our Home Depot probably won't have them until at least December, if not next year.

 

[225]

I use my M18 mid torque a lot, and I'm itching to get the 1/2" stubby impact, even though I don't need one. $159 bare tool, September release. I'll probably have to order mine on Acme since our Home Depot probably won't have them until at least December, if not next year.

I just bought the M18 mid-torque. It's really nice. My interest is in the 3/8" and 1/4" M12's.

I have the regular 3/8" M12 impact and 3/8" / 1/4" ratchets. Love it.

 

[Crazyjake8493]

I just bought the M18 mid-torque. It's really nice. My interest is in the 3/8" and 1/4" M12's.

I have the regular 3/8" M12 impact and 3/8" / 1/4" ratchets. Love it.

I've been looking at the ratchets for a while, but I really don't do any auto mechanic type work, so there's very few scenarios when my 1/4 impact driver wouldn't work in place of a ratchet. I used to be an RV mechanic, and there was a dozen times a day I could've used the M12 ratchets then.

 

[NitroGarage]

One of my relatives and I were talking tools the other day, and how he can't believe milwaukee would keep making 18 volt tools when his 28 tools are crazy powerful, and asked if they are going to make new 28 volt tools. I replied that the battery and motor tech allows them to keep it 18v and deliver more performance and longer run times.

I looked around - is there any power ratings on the new fuel motors and new batteries that I could compare to the 28v lineup for him?

 

[Strouty]

Honestly, I would not believe any literature that said the 18 is more powerful than the 28, you need to use them side by side to see. My old 28 volt stuff was awesome, I did give in to the 18, but only because it was clear Milwaukee was done expanding the lineup and if I wanted cool tools, I had to go with the crowd. I really miss my 28 volt grinder, drill, metal saw, and bandsaw.

 

[jfranci3]

I just got mine this week, First thing I used if for was filling some bike tires with Presta valves, They include three adapters on the back of the unit, one of them is the Presta adapters. It worked awesome for bike tires. As the Ronco commercial slogan says "Set it and forget it"

The second thing I used it for was topping off a tires on my car. It worked awesome for that. I used a 4.0 XC battery and didn't keep track of battery life but it only changed by one bar after filing 4 car tires(adding 20Psi) and 4 bike tires I believe. Battery wasn't full charged when I started.

Have you tried the inflator on road bike tires? How good is it at getting a tire from 70 to 95psi ish? How good is the presta valve adapter's grip on the valve?
Have you tried seating a road/mtb tubeless tire with it? Thanks!

 

[MikeF2316]

Have you tried the inflator on road bike tires? How good is it at getting a tire from 70 to 95psi ish? How good is the presta valve adapter's grip on the valve?
Have you tried seating a road/mtb tubeless tire with it? Thanks!

Scroll back a few pages to post 14100. That will answer some of your questions.

That's the trouble with this thread - there's so much posting that info is hard to find.

 

[kctyphoon]

One of my relatives and I were talking tools the other day, and how he can't believe milwaukee would keep making 18 volt tools when his 28 tools are crazy powerful, and asked if they are going to make new 28 volt tools. I replied that the battery and motor tech allows them to keep it 18v and deliver more performance and longer run times.

I looked around - is there any power ratings on the new fuel motors and new batteries that I could compare to the 28v lineup for him?

right from Milwaukee's site -

Milwaukee's m28 1/2" impact wrench - a whopping 325ftlbs of torque. Which is the same as their corded model I believe, even back then.. so that WAS a great impact.
m28 1/2" hammerdrill - 750 inch pounds max torque..

 

[Ign]

One of my relatives and I were talking tools the other day, and how he can't believe milwaukee would keep making 18 volt tools when his 28 tools are crazy powerful, and asked if they are going to make new 28 volt tools. I replied that the battery and motor tech allows them to keep it 18v and deliver more performance and longer run times.

I looked around - is there any power ratings on the new fuel motors and new batteries that I could compare to the 28v lineup for him?

M28 is great and Milwaukee has their head up their *** to ignore it.

I always*thought* one argument against M28 was the size/bulk of the battery pack. Now I wanna know how the new 12.0 compares to an M28

In EU and AU Milwaukee sells 5.0 M28 batteries but they won't bring them to the States.

 

[Ign]

Scroll back a few pages to post 14100. That will answer some of your questions.

That's the trouble with this thread - there's so much posting that info is hard to find.

Yep I'm really curious how Milwaukee is gonna handle "fixing" tools that won't fit the 12.0 like the 2771 water pump. They have stated in a press release any tool that won't fit the 12.0, they'll make it right.

And the specifics of what they will do has probably been discussed here, but I think when I'm ready to actually pursue this it could merit a separate thread.

We fill kiddie pools for my animal rescue for the animals to stay cool and even a 9.0 doesn't last us that long in the water pump (feeding from a 500 gallon tank in a truck)

 

[one9gt]

One key hammer drill/impact kits are 125.03


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[2manytools]

Yep I'm really curious how Milwaukee is gonna handle "fixing" tools that won't fit the 12.0 like the 2771 water pump. They have stated in a press release any tool that won't fit the 12.0, they'll make it right.

And the specifics of what they will do has probably been discussed here, but I think when I'm ready to actually pursue this it could merit a separate thread.

We fill kiddie pools for my animal rescue for the animals to stay cool and even a 9.0 doesn't last us that long in the water pump (feeding from a 500 gallon tank in a truck)

I thought I saw that they would send out parts for easy retrofits, and more difficult would need to be sent in to a service center.

 

[a52-830]

One key hammer drill/impact kits are 125.03


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based on the price, i assume this is home depot . . . . .

 

[a52-830]

I thought I saw that they would send out parts for easy retrofits, and more difficult would need to be sent in to a service center.

i think they mean how milwaukee will engineer it based on how the battery fits in the pump. looks pretty strange from this image taken from the milwaukee web site:

https://www.milwaukeetool.com/Products/Power-Tools/Plumbing-Installation/Transfer-Pumps/2771-20


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it appears that the battery faces up, and the cover comes down on top. i assume that the contacts are mounted to the top and slide into the battery, but that looks like a tenuous way to do it.

 

[DFB]

^^^^

The molded outer case is two halves held together with like a half dz screws the battery box is all part of that they will have to retrofit with new parts so the box is longer and deeper.

That's my best guess

Should be pretty simple fix I can't understand all the whining about it

 

[DFB]

My old wet dry vac isn't even included in the retrofit

Now to me THAT'S something to ***** about!

 

[2manytools]

Got a local guy selling the new M18 Super Sawzall for $450 with 12ah battery. How on Earth those guys get tools before everyone else is beyond me.

 

[one9gt]

based on the price, i assume this is home depot . . . . .

Yes at HD.. one key sawzall is also on clearance at 125


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[Distrophe]

Got a local guy selling the new M18 Super Sawzall for $450 with 12ah battery. How on Earth those guys get tools before everyone else is beyond me.

HD lists that kit at $400 even. I guess after tax that's around $440.
Pretty much double the price of older Fuel sawzall w/ 9ah, yikes.

 

[Crazyjake8493]

Got a local guy selling the new M18 Super Sawzall for $450 with 12ah battery. How on Earth those guys get tools before everyone else is beyond me.

Probably works for Milwaukee or friends with someone who does.

 

[LXCam]

I thought I saw that they would send out parts for easy retrofits, and more difficult would need to be sent in to a service center.

Why modify a tool when a simple offset adapter or cord attached remote battery pack could be provided. Guess we'll see how they handle it.

 

[DFB]

The lidded housing on the water transfer pump protects the battery/connections from getting wet.


I use my pump all the time it works great decent lift and a good volume of water thru a 5/8" hose even at a 100ft head.

about 45 min straight run time with 9.0.

I'm figuring maybe gain another 15-20 min with 12.0

Rotating thru two 5.0 ah batteries it should run about an hour total

 

[PelicanPines]

Needed some electrical troubleshooting love... went red... these are both better quality than expected.