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[a52-830]

New Milwaukee hats and headgear -

https://www.milwaukeetool.com/Products/Work-Gear/Non-heated-Gear/Headwear

back in the dark ages (before the year 2000, I mean, a whole different century) we had these things called "baseball caps". today, I see we have things called "trucker caps".

is this all marketing, or is there really a difference?

 

[DFB]

back in the dark ages (before the year 2000, I mean, a whole different century) we had these things called "baseball caps". today, I see we have things called "trucker caps".

is this all marketing, or is there really a difference?

OMG Trucker style hats have been around forever. They have a higher top more boxy. Tall and square as opposed the more rounded, closer fitting baseball style cap.

Most people I know hate the trucker style and does seem to me older guys more often would wear that type hat. My ex FIL a farmer and woodsman love that style hat IDK why

I think they look goofy

 

[DFB]

I would also like to see a thin layer that would have attachment points around the perimeter that I could put in the top (or middle if there are a lot of levels) of the stack to allow me to attach things like 3' levels or rocket lights to the front and sides of the stack. ok, maybe only M12 rocket lights. ok, maybe this needs a bit more thought on how to get it all there without damage. but I am pretty sure it would be a lot more usable if I could attach some tower lights to the rig.

I'm not a pack out fan but I would agree since it is supposed to be "mobile" tool cart that it should carry most everything you need and obviously tall levels and light stands should be included.

Nylon straps pop riveted would be the first idea to come to mind if you are jerry rigging something for yourself. I have tool bags that have outside straps for carrying levels.

How about attaching PVC pipe of a suitable diameter a level would fit in that fine I bet. That used to be hot idea for certain tool transport on tractors for shovels etc or as a chain box. Could even paint it red or black

Also be curious if some type of vehicle mount sporting rack truck, ATV etc, for gun or rod could be utilized on top of the box, alongside or across the handle. Probably be almost as expensive as the packout though

Bigger question would be "How would any side mounts effect the width for doorways etc? "

 

[toolmutt]

OMG Trucker style hats have been around forever. They have a higher top more boxy. Tall and square as opposed the more rounded, closer fitting baseball style cap.

Most people I know hate the trucker style and does seem to me older guys more often would wear that type hat. My ex FIL a farmer and woodsman love that style hat IDK why

I think they look goofy

I'm an older guy, I guess, and hate the "beanie with a bill" that was popular a few years ago.

 

[DFB]

I'm an older guy, I guess, and hate the "beanie with a bill" that was popular a few years ago.

I have couple hats like that...one came from Harris Seed Company and the other from Johnny Seed. I don't like them either

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I actually have lot of ball caps HD, JD, Dodge but all mine are all solid backs no mesh. I have an official Maine Fish and Wildlife Service hat, that's a cool one but most are from different seed companies over the years. A heavy Denim one Vesey Seed in Canada is my winter fav. I only usually wear in in cool weather unless I'm out mowing at farm

An old gf did a company nursing gig for Ruger they gave her some honorary promo stuff (she passed on to me ) A very nice ballcap!

I had a really nice Winchester camo ball cap I set it down in my buddies bike shop one day a few months ago and his gf's Doberman pup ate the hat, chewed the bill all up when were busy working.

My Boss got us all mesh back trucker style hats with the company name on them some years ago. When nobody wanted to wear them he got miffed

So far I only have the free promo bright red FUEL T shirts for Milwaukee swag

 

[BroncoAZ]

I'm an older guy, I guess, and hate the "beanie with a bill" that was popular a few years ago.

I have a big head (size 8 in fitted hats) so none of the beanie with a bill hats are anywhere close to fitting me. Most of the smaller hats look more like a yarmulke on me...

 

[a52-830]

Nylon straps pop riveted would be the first idea to come to mind if you are jerry rigging something for yourself. I have tool bags that have outside straps for carrying levels.

I think nylon mesh bags might be better. provides support on the bottom, with a pull on the top to tighten whatever you put in it to the stack.

How about attaching PVC pipe of a suitable diameter a level would fit in that fine I bet. That used to be hot idea for certain tool transport on tractors for shovels etc or as a chain box. Could even paint it red or black

that would require either the pipes be short (so that you could just use them above the base), or allowing the pipes to be longer, but requiring there to be more stack to support it. I suppose a "wing" that attaches to those aluminum bars at the corner to provide a base of the side attaches is an option. . . .

Also be curious if some type of vehicle mount sporting rack truck, ATV etc, for gun or rod could be utilized on top of the box, alongside or across the handle. Probably be almost as expensive as the packout though

actually, one other thing I wanted was a fixture for the rolling base to mount in the van that would secure it for travel.

Bigger question would be "How would any side mounts effect the width for doorways etc? "

it might, although attaching things to the front would solve that, at the expense of making removing boxes harder. adding them to the back would be complicated by the extendable handle.

I suppose that the correct answer might be to create a panel that just mounts to the top, and allows me to lay down rocket lights and lock them in. again, a generic panel, with adapters for various things like different rocket lights and levels. while it would need to come off for doorways, if everything was battened down, I could remove it and carry it like a briefcase.

I suppose, in a perfect world, that panel would really be a box, and include a top, so that the PACKOUT tool bags can still attach to the top of the stack . . . . .

 

[dacan23]

I have every packout piece expcept the cooler.

The bags arent bad just a little too expensive, I use them to store some of my massive light collection.

The totes are way too expensive and the smallest one is kinda too small, perhaps they should only make the medium and large one. People I gave the large one too like it a lot.

The tech bag is similar to the non-pack tech bag.

The back pack is larger than the older style one I had.

Both the tech bag and backpack are a little bulky and heavier than the old models. My problem is its difficult to mount them on the same stack. The front of one needs to face the back of the other, you cant mount them with the back of each touching so both the fronts are on the outside. Will post pic tonight.

Which brings be to a minor gripe, kinda wish the bags & totes could be mounted either way. A proper super stack system would allow you to mount things any way you want from any perspective.

They need to provide a way to make other things compatible, adapter for the M18 wet dry like we complain about, radio, etc.

I hope there is never another screw up like the slim orgs where a part of something sticks out again.

The org things that come in the top box are freaking useless. You can not securely fit them into the middle box, you can not really swap them around aside from the way they are intended. I think theres what 3 different pieces, it should of been 1 piece with a lid and movable dividers and just provide multiple of them, or maybe 2 of same one on one side and just a larger one on the other.

The tray tote thing that comes in the middle and bottom? Is freaking useless and a waste of space.

I wish the inside of the boxes was more straight and even on the bottom and the sides without ridges, indentations, etc.

Wheres my dang platform dollys?!?!

from recent discussion, it appears that there are a fair number of PACKOUT users here.

what do you all think is missing from the system, either boxes in inserts?

 

[garageguy1]

A small set of drawers either two stacked similar to sortiimo or dewalt as well as even smaller like the festool 6,9,12 drawer models would be a nice addition....also make the black version more widely available

 

[chrisnazzy]

Sorry if I've missed this. Does the Fuel 2997-23PO kit come with a foam or plastic piece inside the Packout that securely organizes the tools and batteries that come in the kit. I tried my "Google-fu" but came up empty.

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[dacan23]

Nope lots of cardboard

Sorry if I've missed this. Does the Fuel 2997-23PO kit come with a foam or plastic piece inside the Packout that securely organizes the tools and batteries that come in the kit. I tried my "Google-fu" but came up empty.

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[dacan23]

I like it, take the middle box size and put 2 drawers in it.

A small set of drawers either two stacked similar to sortiimo or dewalt as well as even smaller like the festool 6,9,12 drawer models would be a nice addition....also make the black version more widely available

 

[Ign]

I recently grabbed a Weego JSOBD-1 OBD Code Reader (Port Memory Data Saver) which looks like it'll allow me to maintain vehicle memory while swapping batteries using an M12 holster from heated gear.

Plugged it into the vehicle and into the holster and it lights up, so appears to work, although I haven't actually replaced the vehicle's battery yet

 

[garagelogician]

I apologize if this has already been covered, but our favorite red tool company is coming out with an M18 Backpack Sprayer. I wish I could justify it on my 1/3 acre lot.

Concrete sprayer specific version:

 

[dacan23]

Too bad I got a nice Echo non powered backpack sprayer last year.

Now if I could combine the M18 sprayer with the car wash scrubber attachment for the new OPE system I am dreaming about that would be cool

I apologize if this has already been covered, but our favorite red tool company is coming out with an M18 Backpack Sprayer. I wish I could justify it on my 1/3 acre lot.

Concrete sprayer specific version:

 

[DFB]

Too bad I got a nice Echo non powered backpack sprayer last year.

Now if I could combine the M18 sprayer with the car wash scrubber attachment for the new OPE system I am dreaming about that would be cool

About f**kin time

HOW MUCH!

 

[dacan23]

LOL

About f**kin time

HOW MUCH!

Wonder if they will venture into a cordless interior/exterior paint sprayer...

 

[Ign]

LOL



Wonder if they will venture into a cordless interior/exterior paint sprayer...

We better get a framing nailer before something THAT niche. Damnit.

 

[DFB]

I want the sprayer..any price on it yet?

So it will it handle general garden chemicals besides the sealer applications. My landscape gal is seriously gonna love this!

Guessing there is no agitator though? :

 

[DFB]

LOL



Wonder if they will venture into a cordless interior/exterior paint sprayer...

Doesn't Ryobi have all this stuff already? I know they have a tank sprayer for along time I seem to think a paint sprayer too, now why is they get it all anyhow is it just a test market

 

[DFB]

Long time coming with some of this stuff...way too many versions of cordless drills

Framing nail gun yup I agree!


Cordless nailers are the cats @ss

I did a job 2 weeks ago second floor residential bathroom remodel and so glad I didn't have to haul compressor between the weight the noise and really don't even know if the electrical could have handled it anyhow being an older home. 16ga angle nailer did the trim nice. Would have been great to had cordless 2 n1 gun for underlayment stapling though.

Next best thing would be the small tank cordless compressor for old 18 ga air

 

[2manytools]

I apologize if this has already been covered, but our favorite red tool company is coming out with an M18 Backpack Sprayer. I wish I could justify it on my 1/3 acre lot.

Concrete sprayer specific version:

Been asking for that forever. Thought I was going to have to settle on the Ryobi model this year. Have absolutely loved my B&D 4-gallon sprayer, but the Ryobi has more comfortable straps, and one less battery platform (only B&D battery tool I have, going on craigslist now!).

Well forget that, thank you Milwaukee!! Milwaukee has a hip strap, and no need to clean the hose when swapping tanks, though obviously adds cost to each extra.

I did notice them rating the sprays per charge are based off an XC 3.0. Seems like an odd-ball battery to be rating it

Now to make some powered hand pruners that work tethered off a M12 or M18 pack.

 

[Catfishdan]

Picked up a few more pieces over the last few weeks. I like the light a lot so far for close quarters work.

 

[Ign]

Been asking for that forever. Thought I was going to have to settle on the Ryobi model this year. Have absolutely loved my B&D 4-gallon sprayer, but the Ryobi has more comfortable straps, and one less battery platform (only B&D battery tool I have, going on craigslist now!).

Well forget that, thank you Milwaukee!! Milwaukee has a hip strap, and no need to clean the hose when swapping tanks, though obviously adds cost to each extra.

I did notice them rating the sprays per charge are based off an XC 3.0. Seems like an odd-ball battery to be rating it

Now to make some powered hand pruners that work tethered off a M12 or M18 pack.

They still sell the 2771 water pump w a 3.0 if you opt for the kit. Pisses me off really, they should just obsolete that battery altogether. It's like offering a Load Range B in an LT tire - no one wants it

 

[Larry117]

Prices on the new sprayers-

Three 4-gallon tanks available – water supply, pesticide, or concrete
2820-21WS – Water supply Switch Tank system: $439 ($164 tank only)
2820-21CS – Concrete sprayer: $439 ($164 tank only)
2820-21PS – Pesticide sprayer: $399 ($149 tank only, $299 power base and tank)

from protoolreviews, wouldn't let me post a link

 

[DFB]

Prices on the new sprayers-

Three 4-gallon tanks available – water supply, pesticide, or concrete
2820-21WS – Water supply Switch Tank system: $439 ($164 tank only)
2820-21CS – Concrete sprayer: $439 ($164 tank only)
2820-21PS – Pesticide sprayer: $399 ($149 tank only, $299 power base and tank)

from protoolreviews, wouldn't let me post a link

Thanks

https://www.protoolreviews.com/trad...ch-tank-interchangeable-sprayer-system/43438/

 

[DFB]

•3-year power base warranty
•1-year tank assembly warranty

Says 12 tanks (4 gal) on the XC battery so up to 48 gallons of spray that is quite a bit really. The video says all day on the job.

Price wise its far removed from the Ryobi that is only $149 and comes with a 2.0 ah battery

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Ryobi-O...-Battery-and-Charger-Included-P2840/303585241

So just like the Milwaukee cordless nailers will be a little to rich for some tastes. Ryobi even has a smaller handheld powered sprayer that's less than $100



Do have to agree about the water pump. Only gets at best a 20 minute run on the XC, and I too am surprised that they do package the kit in that way.

But depends on what your doing I guess its enough for basic plumbing water transfers. Ha I used the wet dry vac to drain the remaining water in the toilet tank on my last job

Some maintenance techs are wanting them for glycol and RV anti freeze use. Glycol transfer will use up the battery even faster its been said as its a thicker viscosity fluid to move.

 

[2manytools]

Prices on the new sprayers-

Three 4-gallon tanks available – water supply, pesticide, or concrete
2820-21WS – Water supply Switch Tank system: $439 ($164 tank only)
2820-21CS – Concrete sprayer: $439 ($164 tank only)
2820-21PS – Pesticide sprayer: $399 ($149 tank only, $299 power base and tank)

from protoolreviews, wouldn't let me post a link

Guess I'm going to be passing on this one. That's not in a farmers budget. I can buy almost 3 Ryobi units for the cost of one of these, and keep a dedicated spray in each. I knew having the spray handle part of the tank was going to jack that part cost up.

Who on earth would be buying the kit of the pesticide sprayer? $100 for an XC battery? I'd rather have a 2nd tank included.

 

[DFB]

Guess I'm going to be passing on this one. That's not in a farmers budget. I can buy almost 3 Ryobi units for the cost of one of these, and keep a dedicated spray in each. I knew having the spray handle part of the tank was going to jack that part cost up.

Who on earth would be buying the kit of the pesticide sprayer? $100 for an XC battery? I'd rather have a 2nd tank included.

Well it certainly doesn't make sense to anyone already owning Milwaukee tool batteries to buy a kit (and I'm sure that includes the basic multicharger too for the xtra money) but their reasoning must be either there are prospective customers that aren't on the platform and need to have the power source, and of course knowing my experience how procurement often works in industry or professional commercial business they often do buy the entire kit as batteries, chargers and tools have already been committed out to other jobs and/or workers.

But you do make a real good point for those that don't need a full kit with battery and charger an additional $50 gets a second tank instead

 

[a52-830]

if you need an extra tank, you'll buy it, why pass up that revenue?

if you need it now, you will buy the kit, so why offer bare tools initially?

including a bigger battery would also cut into subsequent purchases, why pass up that money? I think that this is why generally you only see big batteries on tools that really need it, and smaller batteries in kits for tools that dont.

 

[Ign]

So far I've sent in two 2771 water pumps for 12.0 retrofit and just received completely NIB units as a replacement.

Just sent in my 2135 tower light for the same reason, curious what they'll do. Honestly I think paying a tech labor time here is more expensive than just shipping out a new Chinese-made product.

So, if anyone has heavily used tools that qualify for the 12.0 fitment issue this is a good way to just get a new tool. The first water pump I sent in was hurtin', tons of use

 

[Ign]

if you need an extra tank, you'll buy it, why pass up that revenue?

if you need it now, you will buy the kit, so why offer bare tools initially?

including a bigger battery would also cut into subsequent purchases, why pass up that money? I think that this is why generally you only see big batteries on tools that really need it, and smaller batteries in kits for tools that dont.

They only risk hurting that reputation when someone thinks "Cool I'm into M18 now and can just buy tool-onlys." Then they put their 3.0 on the angle grinder or miter saw and quickly revert back to their bad experiences with nicad in the days of old, decide cordless still isn't "up to it" and resolve to stay with corded another 5-10 years. After all, they were using an "XC" battery, it shoulda powered everything fine, right??

 

[Dogbone]

my son has gotten heavy into Milwaukee tools lately. They are nice though somewhat spendy.

 

[half_full]

Anyone using the old style batteries still? I have a few tools that my neighbor gave me. Just want them gone as I'm not buying batteries for them. I don't want to ship. They are free to anyone that can use them AND pick them up.
It will not hurt my feelings if they are not worth the effort...
Also have a few others to move off the shelf.

 

[kctyphoon]

If its red - somebody will want it.. thats nice of you to offer.

 

[DFB]

So far I've sent in two 2771 water pumps for 12.0 retrofit and just received completely NIB units as a replacement.

Just sent in my 2135 tower light for the same reason, curious what they'll do. Honestly I think paying a tech labor time here is more expensive than just shipping out a new Chinese-made product.

So, if anyone has heavily used tools that qualify for the 12.0 fitment issue this is a good way to just get a new tool. The first water pump I sent in was hurtin', tons of use

I'm following up on that next week with my 2771

Any special directions to follow?

 

[a52-830]

submitted for your consideration. click on the image to be taken to the homedepot.com page.







the only difference being, of course, the addition of the vac "kit" to the first listing, for only 618$ more.

I assume that this is the first hint of a "buy this get that free" deal, possibly featuring other addons. I admit that I find it amusing that they listed the vac, which I dont think will fit inside even that large packout box. even if it will, it certainly won't with all those other tools . . . . . .

anyway, I thought some of you might appreciate this . . . . .

 

[Bighead38]

Vacuum and a battery but yeah that’s stupid. Used my Milwaukee stuff a crazy amountvthe last 3 weeks.

 

[Ign]

I'm following up on that next week with my 2771

Any special directions to follow?

No not really.

The first one seemed to have suffered in performance/output (hard to prove and difficult to quantify without a control ie new unit, flow meter, scientific process etc etc) but I told them that. It was also leaking from the glass window (true). And I wanted the 12.0 retrofit. I listed those three reasons and received a NIB replacement.

The second one was a spare - still NIB! I sent it in its original packaging and said I just wanted 12.0 retrofit. That was my only reason listed (the 800# told me the 2771 must be sent in). They sent me a different NIB that'll take the bigger batteries.

I wonder if they eventually retrofit the second one I sent in. As said it was NIB, never once used, still in plastic bag w all the cardboard packing/spacers.

The 800# also told me the tower lights must be sent in but I know some here have had the kits sent out to them. But I don't care - if they want to pay shipping both ways I'll ship my lights out (shrug).

They also hinted that only tools under warranty will be retrofitted (this was a tech named Rory, not a secretary), but I didn't think Milwaukee's policy on the retrofit stated that restriction? I thought ANY tool that couldn't fit the 12.0s would be retrofitted (or parts provided to consumer - that's fair AFAIC), period. This isn't really "warranty service" IMO

 

[kctyphoon]

So I'm curious - do the m18 water pumps have an auto on/off feature? Like - can you place the input hose Into a water source, and have a say a garden hose nozzle on the output side? The pump wont shut on and off on it's own while you open and close the nozzle will it? Seems like a good upgrade for the next model..