techieman33
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I do the same. Though I'll often put them on top of my hands to keep from interfering. And at 50 cents a pair when buying in bulk they're dirt cheap for what you get.
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I do the same. Though I'll often put them on top of my hands to keep from interfering. And at 50 cents a pair when buying in bulk they're dirt cheap for what you get.
Ign
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Heated insoles too! There's several on the market here but reviews are terrible.
I will say I've been using the heated gloves road cycling in Colo and they're surprisingly effective. One day I did a ride where even w my Pearl Izumi lobster gloves and a separate inner knit liner my fingers were borderline painful.
Did the exact same ride a week later in much colder conditions and w the gloves on high my fingers felt normal. On this ride it was cold enough it got to where I couldn't hardly talk just because I couldn't get my frozen mouth to form the right shapes (I almost never wear a balaclava), but my fingers were fine.
I haven't seen a complaint about this, but does anybody have trouble with larger m12 batteries staying retained in some tools? In particular the m12 stubby and m12 hackzall. It seems like the percusiion of the tool tends to let the battery drop out of the tool just enough to lose contact. It's not really a tool defect but rather a design flaw.
No issues with battery retention on my M12 stubby on the 1.5, 2.0, or 6.0.
Ign
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Yeah I've had it happen. I don't remember on what, maybe my 2453 impact driver, or maybe my 1/2" stubby
techieman33
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I've had retention issues with my m12 fuel hackzall as well. It seems like the more the workpiece or tool is shaking around the more it happens.
scooby074
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Yeah I have some of those "rechargable" chem pack handwarmers that you put in boiling water to recharge. They are ok, but add a lot of bulk, plus the heat doesent reach the tips of my fingers somedays.
THIN electrically heated liners would be a gamechanger IMHO>
scooby074
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I have some great (Italian made?) snowmobile gloves, goretex lined and with some special liner insulating fabric that keep my hands toasty, problem is, they are the same cost as the Milwaulkees, which means that its a nogo for "work". Good gloves are out there! Just they all seem to cost about the same
scooby074
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I looked at those. Id have no problem wearing one because I usually wear a Carhart hoodie under my coat and theyre pretty thick so I have lots of room to play with. My big problem is extremities. Hands, fingers and legs, so gloves, long johns and socks would serve me way better than a vest.
kctyphoon
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Latest toy came -
Why they didn't make a Hardline version is a mystery. I'm betting is cause nobody else makes one with a really good blade - all the more reason they shoulda. I woulda bought it. This one is made with Milwaukee Mystery Metal.
Why they didn't make a Hardline version is a mystery. I'm betting is cause nobody else makes one with a really good blade - all the more reason they shoulda. I woulda bought it. This one is made with Milwaukee Mystery Metal.
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You want hardline everything, next you will be asking for hardline sawzall blades.
Is hawk bill the same a duck bill? I have a kitchen knife that looks like that and thought it was called duck.
Is hawk bill the same a duck bill? I have a kitchen knife that looks like that and thought it was called duck.
Latest toy came -
Why they didn't make a Hardline version is a mystery. I'm betting is cause nobody else makes one with a really good blade - all the more reason they shoulda. I woulda bought it. This one is made with Milwaukee Mystery Metal.
kctyphoon
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Dunno about duckbill.. ive always seen these called hawkbill. The knife is “eh” - its ok.. nothing special. The grip is little wide for my liking, ( i know thats just a preference) but theres nothing grippy about it.. no soft hand grip, no dimpling or something similar. There’s probably two dozen different styles of these to pick from out there.. i like the Klein i had better i think.. Jameson makes a nice one too, but hey - I’m sure it’ll do whatever it needs to. My goal was to get all the handles sticking out of my tools belt to be red.. i have issues, i know.
This picture just to show the Klein, or rather “one of” the Klein versions.
This picture just to show the Klein, or rather “one of” the Klein versions.
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DFB
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Yup Hawkbill
Very Tempting to jump into the M12 platform with this for my first tool.
How are the 2.0 Batteries?
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwauk...2-0-Ah-Batteries-2553-22-48-11-2411/308081804
Then add a Stubby 1/2 or 3/8
And Then a non-fuel 3/8 ratchet
Then the Inflator,
This could be a never end hole, maybe NOT..
It IS a never ending hole. I started with M18 hammer drill and sawzall with a couple 5.0A batteries... then I got M12 drill/driver kit... then I got grinder, drywall cutout tool, drywall screwgun, drywall screwgun attachment... m12 ratchet.... m18 1/2" impact gun... and I still have my 2 original m18 5.0A batteries and my two original m12 batteries.
The main reason? Milwaukee's LONG TERM COMMITMENT to the M12 and M18 battery platforms. I am NOT doing this with DeWalt and their propensity to switch battery platforms every 2 years. That's bull ****. I don't even care about Milwaukee's warranty for the most part... I care about the long-term commitment to the same battery platform so I don't have to worry about getting the same batteries replaced 5 years down the road.
And I forgot to mention that now I want a m12 rotary tool....
Never ending hole, you say?
Ign
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I'm the last person to stand up.for DeWalt but they offer an adapter to run new 20V Max batteries on the old XRP tools. And Flexvolt wasn't really a new platform so much as an extension of 20V Max. I hate DeWalt but I think Flexvolt is pretty damn cool. Milwaukee has dug their heels in at 18 and eventually it's going to limit them, massive amp hours be damned.
kctyphoon
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Not sure if i see limitations coming any time soon. we have a cordless table saw, cordless chainsaw, cordless rotary hammers.. i think they’ve kinda disproven the “NEED” for higher voltage..
As dewalt has gone from 18v, to 20v, to 40v, and now to 60v - i think they’ve proven its mostly a marketing move more than anything else. Meanwhile - Milwaukee is still tapping their m18 line, and are still competing. Do you feel like they’ve “compromised” with an 18 volt platform? I sure dont. What’s dewalt released in their 60v line that has destroyed Milwaukee’s 18 volt version?? Is there even a single tool that would MAKE you wanna buy ONE dewalt version over the Milwaukee available to you?
Ill say this much - we still kinda bought into the “needing” to buy the bigger battery thing though without realizing it. Although its been more of a “wanting” to get the bigger battery instead of it being required. Table saw / chainsaw - you still kinda “need” the 12.0 packs anyway - so at that point whats the difference if youre buying a 60v pack or Milwaukee’s 12.0. They are still all downward compatible - but its just a lot easier for us to justify that purchase cause every battery will still work and benefit every tool, even still use the same chargers. Pretty sure the Dewalt 40v guys aren’t happy (just like our m28 guys aren’t) Big difference is we can use the older batteries in newer tools if we had to, but we sacfafice performance - where as with dewalt if you already had a dozen 20v batteries, they are useless in the 60v tools.
Honestly - what I’m more amazed with - is given how much energy is being stored in all these big batteries used in all the different platforms - you dont hear about any catastrophe in the news given the amount of stupid people that exist in the world. The fact these things get treated like bombs when they are being shipped, you’d think some genius woulda burned down a few homes by now. That, or you’d find some eBay listing for “turn your dewalt battery into an explosive device” slide on timer kit being sold online.
As dewalt has gone from 18v, to 20v, to 40v, and now to 60v - i think they’ve proven its mostly a marketing move more than anything else. Meanwhile - Milwaukee is still tapping their m18 line, and are still competing. Do you feel like they’ve “compromised” with an 18 volt platform? I sure dont. What’s dewalt released in their 60v line that has destroyed Milwaukee’s 18 volt version?? Is there even a single tool that would MAKE you wanna buy ONE dewalt version over the Milwaukee available to you?
Ill say this much - we still kinda bought into the “needing” to buy the bigger battery thing though without realizing it. Although its been more of a “wanting” to get the bigger battery instead of it being required. Table saw / chainsaw - you still kinda “need” the 12.0 packs anyway - so at that point whats the difference if youre buying a 60v pack or Milwaukee’s 12.0. They are still all downward compatible - but its just a lot easier for us to justify that purchase cause every battery will still work and benefit every tool, even still use the same chargers. Pretty sure the Dewalt 40v guys aren’t happy (just like our m28 guys aren’t) Big difference is we can use the older batteries in newer tools if we had to, but we sacfafice performance - where as with dewalt if you already had a dozen 20v batteries, they are useless in the 60v tools.
Honestly - what I’m more amazed with - is given how much energy is being stored in all these big batteries used in all the different platforms - you dont hear about any catastrophe in the news given the amount of stupid people that exist in the world. The fact these things get treated like bombs when they are being shipped, you’d think some genius woulda burned down a few homes by now. That, or you’d find some eBay listing for “turn your dewalt battery into an explosive device” slide on timer kit being sold online.
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Milwauke could always take makitas approach and just use multiple batteries if higher voltage is required.
I like how milwauke have invested in the compact range with m12, I've also got dewalt 10.8v kit and it feels like dewalt really don't care about that line.
I like how milwauke have invested in the compact range with m12, I've also got dewalt 10.8v kit and it feels like dewalt really don't care about that line.
DFB
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Ya Ridgid has the double battery thing with their cordless tank style air compressor. Be two years this month since the release and I believe it was pitched using twin 5.0's, with 4.0's as a minimum.
If Milwaukee EVER comes out with one I was once hoping they follow suit for dualies but with these new batteries up to 12.0 both high demand and HO versions I wonder now?
Would hate to be forced into buying bigger batteries though if it was just a single
If Milwaukee EVER comes out with one I was once hoping they follow suit for dualies but with these new batteries up to 12.0 both high demand and HO versions I wonder now?
Would hate to be forced into buying bigger batteries though if it was just a single
Ign
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Milwaukee had their with M28, but instead in the US they just want to wander away from it, like Towelie.....
a52-830
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somehow I have ended up with a 1.5AH M18 battery with a date code of 13. it doesn't seem to hold a charge well. based on how beat up it is, I dont think it owes anyone anything.
has anyone opened up a M18 and replaced the cells? can I upgrade it to a higher capacity, or does the board in it limit it somehow?
has anyone opened up a M18 and replaced the cells? can I upgrade it to a higher capacity, or does the board in it limit it somehow?
Aleksey Anufrikov
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If i remember well, cell outputs are welded directly to connector, without any protection or current sensor. I think, the PCB should not control anything connected with capacity, just voltage and temperature.
I also have 1 such battery and want to try rebuilding it with 2.5 Ah cells. Unfortunately, I do not think I will have time for it until the end of March.
I also have 1 such battery and want to try rebuilding it with 2.5 Ah cells. Unfortunately, I do not think I will have time for it until the end of March.
a52-830
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if I'm going in, and spending the time and money on new cells, I want at least 5AH in that form factor, although I am not sure that the cells exist . . . .
Aleksey Anufrikov
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Such cells do not exist. The best you can get is 3.0Ah (something like Sony US18650VTC6 - 3.0Ah / 30A max discharge allowed). But if you want reliable battery, it will be better to stop on 2.5-2.6Ah for 5-cell battery (Samsung INR18650-25R / Sony US18650VTC5 / VTC5A).
All that is more than 3.0Ah is too weak to be used in powertools, and even then you can get max 3.5-3.6Ah in 18650 size.
All that is more than 3.0Ah is too weak to be used in powertools, and even then you can get max 3.5-3.6Ah in 18650 size.
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techieman33
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They might in a lab somewhere. But as for what you can buy on the open market they're not even close to that yet.
For lower drain applications you can get something like this Samsung 36G that's 3.6AH. It's only rated for 10 amps though. It would be fine for a light. And you could probably get away with something like a drill or impact driver in light to medium duty tasks.
And if you want the best power to capacity ratio then your looking at something like a Samsung vtc6a. It's rated for 20 amps so it should provide at least as much power as the cells that came in the battery, and maybe a little more.
The other downside is that cells like these are the latest and greatest, so they're expensive. Your going to spend $40-$50 per set of 5 cells. So unless it's really important to have as much capacity in the smallest form factor as possible your better off just buying a new cp 2.0 battery for $30 or a 5.0 for $50 on ebay.
DerekV
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I agree with your take on this. Flexvolt really is a clever idea. Milwaukee has done a truly impressive job continuing to raise the bar of what 18 volts can give you, BUT at what point will new higher powered products become cost prohibitive? It is a requirement for the electronics to be increasingly robust and with more copper/stronger magnets/etc. to make more power with low voltage. It is much simpler and more cost effective to make power with higher voltage, and given an equal effort in making stronger motors, the potential to create "holy ****, that's cordless?" tools is exponentially greater by design. That doesn't mean what Milwaukee is doing is impossible, but it's undoubtedly a steeper hill to climb. I hope they're able to continue to deliver.
The 4.5-6" Flexvolt angle grinder. Time will tell if the new M18 4.5-6"-ers will be as good (I think they will be), but that little Flexvolt grinder is the real deal, and it has taken Milwaukee a long time to come up with something competitive.
petee_c
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I tried to take the wheels off the above daily driver earlier this week, and the Milwaukee did not do well....
I do not know if it was because it was stored in my unheated garage (we've been below freezing for the past 6 weeks pretty much) and the batteries are cold, but it did not take off lug nuts that were torqued to 90ftlbs 6 weeks ago.
This was with the 4Ah battery with at least 3 lights on the battery checker when I 1st started the job.
I have run the daily driver through the touchless car wash at least 2x/week. I am not sure if it's corrosion that made things so tight? Couple of the lug bolts I had to remove with a 24+" breaker bar and most of my 200lb body weight.
Maybe cold tools had something to do with it, or the chemicals from the carwash... dunno...
My Makita 18v brushless impact (was able to get some of the bolts off)... The Makita was stored in the garage, but the batteries came from inside the house.
DFB
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That pretty sad wouldn't do road weathered #90
Fill in some blanks...
There are a lot a variables though COLD battery IMO isn't the blame. But I do need ask what amp batt you were using?
That in itself can make a difference 6.0, 4.0, 3.0 XC vs 2.0 or even a 1.5ah compact.
Another variable in my experiences is drive size a heavy 1/2" deep socket most always seem to out perform using 3/8" selections
And I have had situations the 1/2 drive 18v compact has failed at removing a light truck (1/2 series) tire that been run for awhile. Conversley I did trials where the old 2454 could remove with limited effort over #100 of freshly torqued lug nut 3/4" or 13/16" drive don't remember exactly
Overall for me the stubby hasn't screamed "buy me"
In about a month when I take off all the snow tires and put the AS wheels back on I will try my M12 1/2 or 3/8 stubbies at the job first. Heck I will even compare the M12 Fuel 3/8 first gen to the 3/8 stubby in the test.
Hopefully I dont encounter your same results.
Hopefully I dont encounter your same results.
Shaners256
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I don't have any good thoughts on the performance of the stubby impact that hasn't already been said, but the 200lb times 2ft is 400 ft*lb, which the stubby can't do.
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bweight
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*first post* but I bought the m18 MTIW (2852) when it first came out and it is the only Milwaukee tool that I have been disappointed in. I bought the m12 3/8 stubby (2554) and was impressed that it outperformed my m18 compact 3/8 (2754), as numbers show that it should, and got even more upset when it could take off things that my 2852 could not. Sent my 2852 into Milwaukee through acme and they put in all new inner components and it doesn't seem any better although I have not used it much since I got it back because my stubby does most anything I could ask out of a 3/8 impact.
DFB
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Try this trick put a one inch PH2 bit in it (don't worry it won't get stuck) and set a drywall screw in some sheetrock...makes a nice dimple
Caparris
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I've had one of those for years, it works great for what it is
bert1913
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found a brush attachment for my m18 vac
the orifice is a little small so it doesn’t fully engage onto the hose, but it fits nicely in the storage area: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072271GC2/?tag=atomicindus08-20
the orifice is a little small so it doesn’t fully engage onto the hose, but it fits nicely in the storage area: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072271GC2/?tag=atomicindus08-20
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Re: found a brush attachment for my m18 vac
You might be able to heat it with a heat gun and mold it to fit the Milwaukee hose.
You might be able to heat it with a heat gun and mold it to fit the Milwaukee hose.
DFB
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Re: found a brush attachment for my m18 vac
The hard plastic extension wands that come with many small shop vacs work pretty good for adapting end nozzles to the cordless wet/dry vac hose, (Milwaukee didn't make it easy to interchange)
I used a wand piece from a small handheld Craftsman vac that I had killed with sheetrock dust. They wand pieces are tapered on both ends so the small dia. fits your attachment and the flex hose goes nicely into the wider end, and by shortening the large dia. end just a bit makes a real snug fit on the Milwaukee hose too.
Might be able to shorten one enough to fit in the tank for storage,
Funny story one day I went to job and for the life of me couldn't find the flat nozzle it wasn't under the lid where it belongs
I finally found it in the bottom when I went to dump the tank later
How it got there I'll never know
The hard plastic extension wands that come with many small shop vacs work pretty good for adapting end nozzles to the cordless wet/dry vac hose, (Milwaukee didn't make it easy to interchange)
I used a wand piece from a small handheld Craftsman vac that I had killed with sheetrock dust. They wand pieces are tapered on both ends so the small dia. fits your attachment and the flex hose goes nicely into the wider end, and by shortening the large dia. end just a bit makes a real snug fit on the Milwaukee hose too.
Might be able to shorten one enough to fit in the tank for storage,
Funny story one day I went to job and for the life of me couldn't find the flat nozzle it wasn't under the lid where it belongs
I finally found it in the bottom when I went to dump the tank later
How it got there I'll never know