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[Newell33]

I broke out my 2725-21HD M18 string trimmer (non-Quick Loc) for the first time last night. The trimmer worked great and had plenty of power. After trimming around my 1 acre property I still had 3 of the 4 bars lit up on my 12.0 battery.

Although I'm happy with it, I do have a couple of criticisms. The first thing I noticed is that the line advance is very sensitive. I had about 3 or 4 instances where I accidentally advanced the line when I hadn't intended to. The second issue that I noticed right away is that the guard at the bottom is so narrow that it doesn't block hardly any of the debris. After I was done I went back to the shed where I had put my gas powered Stihl trimmer to take a look at the guard on it. It wraps around about twice as far as the Milwaukee. I also noticed that the guard on the new Quick-Loc trimmer appears to cover more area than the guard on my 2725-21HD. I've sent an email to Milwaukee to see if the guards will interchange. If so, I'll likely order one and swap them.

 

[JettaGetUpandGo]

My friend complains about the 6.0/12.0 because you have to remove the belt clip/hanger from drills & impacts for the battery to fit.

I got my first 6.0 HO yesterday (actually two) because my collection of XC 3.0 batteries aren't lasting all that long anymore. I can't believe how big they are. They're almost the size of the 9.0. I kinda regret not getting the XC 5.0 or the XC 6.0 that was around briefly before the high output. The higher output has no benefit to me as I don't own any of those tools. The main goal was a longer runtime without the size/weight of the 9.0.

 

[Shaners256]

I also noticed that the guard on the new Quick-Loc trimmer appears to cover more area than the guard on my 2725-21HD. I've sent an email to Milwaukee to see if the guards will interchange. If so, I'll likely order one and swap them.

Yes, the guards interchange.

 

[Shaners256]

My friend complains about the 6.0/12.0 because you have to remove the belt clip/hanger from drills & impacts for the battery to fit.

The gen3 drills and impacts have an updated belt clip that fits the HO batteries. You should be able to order the part from Milwaukee if you want it.

 

[Newell33]

Yes, the guards interchange.

Great! Thanks for the information.

 

[dacan23]

Thanks, figured they might, was gonna check the 2853. Will have to give some to my friend as I hate the belt clip and bit holders, remove them as soon as I get them.

The gen3 drills and impacts have an updated belt clip that fits the HO batteries. You should be able to order the part from Milwaukee if you want it.

 

[DerekV]

My friend complains about the 6.0/12.0 because you have to remove the belt clip/hanger from drills & impacts for the battery to fit.

I ordered some belt clips off Amazon (here) for some tools that didn't come with them, like the RA impact, etc. This was a few years back. They are supposedly OEM, but they are definitely slightly "deeper" than the ones that came on the Gen2 M18 drills and impact drivers. I wonder if they'd clear the new HO batteries.

I got my first 6.0 HO yesterday (actually two) because my collection of XC 3.0 batteries aren't lasting all that long anymore. I can't believe how big they are. They're almost the size of the 9.0. I kinda regret not getting the XC 5.0 or the XC 6.0 that was around briefly before the high output. The higher output has no benefit to me as I don't own any of those tools. The main goal was a longer runtime without the size/weight of the 9.0.

Yep. I've said it before, the HO 6.0s have no place in the M18 battery line up. They're huge for what they are, and bigger cells or not, I'd rather use a regular 9.0. The 9.0 is slimmer and will have longer run times on continuous low/medium (and perhaps intermittent high demand) applications. And the 9.0 is cheaper. The 6.0s will be able to charge faster with the upcoming (and ridiculously expensive) supercharger though, if that means something to you. Doesn't to me haha. Slow and steady regular chargers for longer battery life. 4 of those and a stockpile of batteries and I'm never out of power.

The new 8.0s coming out, though..."almost" 9.0 with the low demand run times but will absolutely outperform in power and run time on higher demand situations, without being a monstrous 12.0. Those will be sick.

But even then, a 9.0 is big for a drill or impact...5.0s are plenty for that application. Are you still in the return window for the HO 6.0?

 

[dacan23]

I am on the opposite side of the fence. I have five HO 6s and three 12s. I sold off three 9s and one 5 when I got the new batteries. Will probably replace a 6 & 9 with two 8s when they come out. I like the bigger footprint of the 6.0 for some impacts and possible additional power for others without heating up as much for continuous use.

Now I just have to get some of my light collection retrofitted for the 12.

Yep. I've said it before, the HO 6.0s have no place in the M18 battery line up. They're huge for what they are, and bigger cells or not, I'd rather use a regular 9.0. The 9.0 is slimmer and will have longer run times on continuous low/medium (and perhaps intermittent high demand) applications. And the 9.0 is cheaper. The 6.0s will be able to charge faster with the upcoming (and ridiculously expensive) supercharger though, if that means something to you. Doesn't to me haha. Slow and steady regular chargers for longer battery life. 4 of those and a stockpile of batteries and I'm never out of power.

The new 8.0s coming out, though..."almost" 9.0 with the low demand run times but will absolutely outperform in power and run time on higher demand situations, without being a monstrous 12.0. Those will be sick.

But even then, a 9.0 is big for a drill or impact...5.0s are plenty for that application. Are you still in the return window for the HO 6.0?

 

[JettaGetUpandGo]

Yep. I've said it before, the HO 6.0s have no place in the M18 battery line up. They're huge for what they are, and bigger cells or not, I'd rather use a regular 9.0. The 9.0 is slimmer and will have longer run times on continuous low/medium (and perhaps intermittent high demand) applications. And the 9.0 is cheaper. The 6.0s will be able to charge faster with the upcoming (and ridiculously expensive) supercharger though, if that means something to you. Doesn't to me haha. Slow and steady regular chargers for longer battery life. 4 of those and a stockpile of batteries and I'm never out of power.

The new 8.0s coming out, though..."almost" 9.0 with the low demand run times but will absolutely outperform in power and run time on higher demand situations, without being a monstrous 12.0. Those will be sick.

But even then, a 9.0 is big for a drill or impact...5.0s are plenty for that application. Are you still in the return window for the HO 6.0?

I bought them off eBay and destroyed the packaging that I'm convinced was designed by Al Queda. No return. I have a handful of the XC 3.0 and have always had enough to get through a project by rotating them on the chargers, it's just annoying swapping them out frequently.

I still use the standard charger, even with the 9.0 because the rapid charger makes a horrid noise. Charging time has never really been a concern.

 

[Farmall450]

My friend complains about the 6.0/12.0 because you have to remove the belt clip/hanger from drills & impacts for the battery to fit.

Even if you didn't, you'd need one hell of a belt to hold that weight up.

stationary saw. the sawzall & chainsaw are definitely usable with a 12, but I throw a 6.0 HO anytime I have the chance. The 12ah is always on my Fuel blower. Little better performance, and the runtime seems longer than the 25% more it should be than a 9ah. It seems much more efficient per AH with the 21700 cells.
I was going to get rid of all my 12's aside from 1, but after seeing the potential powered packout cart, I decided to hold on to them.

Good point on stationary -- that was my intention. The runtime would be nice on the grinder.

 

[suzook]

Just used the hedge attachment on my new quik loc system. It works great. Sliced through 3/4 inch branches like butter.

 

[2manytools]

Yep. I've said it before, the HO 6.0s have no place in the M18 battery line up.
....
The new 8.0s coming out, though..."almost" 9.0 with the low demand run times but will absolutely outperform in power and run time on higher demand situations, without being a monstrous 12.0. Those will be sick.

Before the 8 & 3 HOs were announced (I want a perfect 10 HO ), I think the 6 was very welcome. The power to drive the newer tools without the weight. The 9 wasn't capable.

If you don't like the 6HO, what makes you think you will like the 8.0? That's going to be larger than the 9 I have to imagine.


I have to re-watch the video on the new HO compact, but the biggest drawback to any HO on an impact driver, is the battery is longer than the impact. Makes it difficult to drive a screw in flush & perpendicular in many situations.

 

[dacan23]

The HO 8.0 is going to be the same size as the HO 6.0, just a tiny bit heavier.

Before the 8 & 3 HOs were announced (I want a perfect 10 HO ), I think the 6 was very welcome. The power to drive the newer tools without the weight. The 9 wasn't capable.

If you don't like the 6HO, what makes you think you will like the 8.0? That's going to be larger than the 9 I have to imagine.


I have to re-watch the video on the new HO compact, but the biggest drawback to any HO on an impact driver, is the battery is longer than the impact. Makes it difficult to drive a screw in flush & perpendicular in many situations.

 

[DerekV]

Before the 8 & 3 HOs were announced (I want a perfect 10 HO ), I think the 6 was very welcome. The power to drive the newer tools without the weight. The 9 wasn't capable.



If you don't like the 6HO, what makes you think you will like the 8.0? That's going to be larger than the 9 I have to imagine.





I have to re-watch the video on the new HO compact, but the biggest drawback to any HO on an impact driver, is the battery is longer than the impact. Makes it difficult to drive a screw in flush & perpendicular in many situations.

The 9.0 is still very capable, and it’s not like it won’t work on the new ultra demanding tools.

I like the 8 because it’s basically the same size as the 9 and it’s very close in watt-hours, so similar run times on the low demand applications like lighting. It will definitely outperform the 9 in demanding applications. That’s a big deal. I see the HO 8.0 as an improved 9.0.

The HO 6.0 just doesn’t have the watt-hours behind it for me to view it as a 9.0 replacement.

 

[kctyphoon]

Is there really anyone that WANTS to use. 12.0 on smaller drill or impact driver?

 

[2manytools]

The 9.0 is still very capable, and it’s not like it won’t work on the new ultra demanding tools.

I like the 8 because it’s basically the same size as the 9 and it’s very close in watt-hours, so similar run times on the low demand applications like lighting. It will definitely outperform the 9 in demanding applications. That’s a big deal. I see the HO 8.0 as an improved 9.0.

The HO 6.0 just doesn’t have the watt-hours behind it for me to view it as a 9.0 replacement.

While of course it will work & would be my choice after a 6/12, but the 9 will not run table saw, new circular saw, chainsaw, or super sawzall at full capability without an HO battery.

If the 8 HO will be the same size as the 6, then I understand it being a bit redundant, but they wasn't the case a year ago.

 

[JettaGetUpandGo]

Isn't the 9.0 what originally shipped with the table saw?

 

[KBigg]

Have any of you Milwaukee guys had trouble with m12 batteries? I bought a jacket a couple years ago, and the other day I got the charger and batteries out to charge them for a new ratchet coming. Well now my charger is telling me one of my batteries are bad. Its barley been used.

I should add that I did unplug and plug the charger back in a couple times with no change. Im unsure on the generation of battery but its a 1.5ah.

 

[DerekV]

While of course it will work & would be my choice after a 6/12, but the 9 will not run table saw, new circular saw, chainsaw, or super sawzall at full capability without an HO battery.



If the 8 HO will be the same size as the 6, then I understand it being a bit redundant, but they wasn't the case a year ago.

The 9.0 will still work though. Probably just fine enough, too, while waiting for the 8.0 to be released [emoji6]

I think I’d rather go for a 12 in these anyways, so long as it doesn’t throw off the balance. If you’re not gonna use a slim pack, commit 100% and go all out [emoji23]

 

[2manytools]

Isn't the 9.0 what originally shipped with the table saw?

I had to double check when I posted, but it was 12. You may have been thinking about the 10" miter ships with a 9ah

The 9.0 will still work though. Probably just fine enough, too, while waiting for the 8.0 to be released [emoji6]

I think I’d rather go for a 12 in these anyways, so long as it doesn’t throw off the balance. If you’re not gonna use a slim pack, commit 100% and go all out [emoji23]

For sure it will work. I think they rate the new tools with specs similar to their previous models when using a non-HO battery. The circular saw runs at 5,000 vs 5,800 rpm, and the super sawzall runs like the non-super sawzall when used with non-HO.
Aside from the nice speed dial & orbital option on the sawzall, it wouldn't make sense for someone to over-buy on the tool if they don't have the correct battery. Though the 2731-20 circular saw (gen1) is becoming a little more scare to find.

I totally agree with the all-out sentiment, and I was always wanting the largest ah on the tool. Now, as long as I am getting all of the tools potential power, I use the smallest possible pack. Yet, I still can't wait to see a 15ah battery

 

[dacan23]

The new gen 2732 circ saw really runs at less RPM on a non-HO pack? Where was that stated? So does that mean anything that comes with a HO pack in kit (chainsaw, super sawzall, gen 2 circ saw, table saw, giant 7/9" grinder, etc) run less powerful on a non-HO pack? What about the gen 3 drill/impact...

For sure it will work. I think they rate the new tools with specs similar to their previous models when using a non-HO battery. The circular saw runs at 5,000 vs 5,800 rpm, and the super sawzall runs like the non-super sawzall when used with non-HO.

 

[DFB]

My understanding is the saw puts out 5800 rpm no load speed whether your running a 5.0 or 12.0...

But under load that speed can diminish and that's where the HO battery kicks as the motor draws on the power to keep up. And the 12.0 pack size allows for extended runtime

Up To 750 Cuts Per Charge
REDLITHIUM™ HIGH OUTPUT™ HD12.0 Battery provides more cuts per charge, outlasting high-voltage competitors
Full day of work on one charge

It better because it takes and hour and half to charge with a rapid and better than 3 hrs to charge on reg charger

Maybe buy two

 

[2manytools]

The new gen 2732 circ saw really runs at less RPM on a non-HO pack? Where was that stated? So does that mean anything that comes with a HO pack in kit (chainsaw, super sawzall, gen 2 circ saw, table saw, giant 7/9" grinder, etc) run less powerful on a non-HO pack? What about the gen 3 drill/impact...

I can't find an article on it, so it may have been in a video, but that is what was said. The performance of the new saw was only achievable with an HO pack, and otherwise would perform like the 2731-20 rated at 5,000 rpm.

 

[danski0224]

...but the biggest drawback to any HO on an impact driver, is the battery is longer than the impact. Makes it difficult to drive a screw in flush & perpendicular in many situations.

I have been noticing this, and in my opinion, it's a problem.

I have the surge impact driver, and even a compact battery is just about even with the chuck and a short magnetic driver tip.

 

[kctyphoon]

Have any of you Milwaukee guys had trouble with m12 batteries? I bought a jacket a couple years ago, and the other day I got the charger and batteries out to charge them for a new ratchet coming. Well now my charger is telling me one of my batteries are bad. Its barley been used.

I should add that I did unplug and plug the charger back in a couple times with no change. Im unsure on the generation of battery but its a 1.5ah.

Sometimes batteries just go bad.. who knows.. may have been discharged too low, might be a bad cell.. if its not under warranty, aftermarket can be found dirt cheap on amazon - or look on ebay for original if you want another one. Warranty is 3 yrs, and there’s a date code on the pack.

Dont buy them from Home Depot.

 

[2manytools]

Sometimes batteries just go bad.. who knows.. may have been discharged too low, might be a bad cell.. if its not under warranty, aftermarket can be found dirt cheap on amazon - or look on ebay for original if you want another one. Warranty is 3 yrs, and there’s a date code on the pack.

Dont buy them from Home Depot.

Milwaukee website lists warranty for M12 1.5ah & 2ah batteries for 2 years, which I know is the same for the M18 compacts, and XC or greater being 3 years for both M12/M18. What doesn't fit the pattern according to Milwaukee's site, is the M12 3.0 compact at 3 years.

 

[a52-830]

Milwaukee website lists warranty for M12 1.5ah & 2ah batteries for 2 years, which I know is the same for the M18 compacts, and XC or greater being 3 years for both M12/M18. What doesn't fit the pattern according to Milwaukee's site, is the M12 3.0 compact at 3 years.

were I to guess, I would assume it is related to which cells are in the battery.

 

[KBigg]

Sometimes batteries just go bad.. who knows.. may have been discharged too low, might be a bad cell.. if its not under warranty, aftermarket can be found dirt cheap on amazon - or look on ebay for original if you want another one. Warranty is 3 yrs, and there’s a date code on the pack.

Dont buy them from Home Depot.

would this be the date code? 160310B its the only number I found other than the ones on the bottom

 

[Hammer1963]

Are there any current M18 12 amp battery promotions available? I purchased a bare table saw which will arrive today and while I have 9 amp batteries, I would like to achieve maximum performance from the saw if there is noticeable difference in power. Any of you that have experience with this, jump on in please

 

[dacan23]

Rarely is there a battery only deal. Best option is the 12.0+6.0+Rapid charger pack for $250 or less.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwauk...ith-Free-6-0-Ah-Battery-48-59-1200P/305706214

Are there any current M18 12 amp battery promotions available? I purchased a bare table saw which will arrive today and while I have 9 amp batteries, I would like to achieve maximum performance from the saw if there is noticeable difference in power. Any of you that have experience with this, jump on in please

 

[Hammer1963]

Not a bad deal at all! I may have to check this out

 

[techieman33]

12.0's are $140 on Amazon right now.

 

[Hammer1963]

Even better and thank you!

 

[a52-830]

it has gotten warm enough that I have returned the batteries to their regular storage in the unheated garage. when I moved them into the house, I made sure they were all fully charged.

while putting them in the cabinet, I checked each one. the ones I did not touch over the winter showed as fully charged. the ones that I used and did not top off seemed to lose some some charge. all were at best two bars, although some were certainly three bars after I used them.

I have decided that long term they seem to hold their charge if they are topped up on the charger. but once partially drained, they seem to continue to lose charge over time.

this seems to be true for both M12 and M18 batteries.

I know there has been discussion about this, so I thought I would share my observations.

 

[a52-830]

new in package 12's (48-11-1812) seem to be selling for between 100$ and 125$ shipped on ebay.

 

[Hammer1963]

Thank you!

 

[KBigg]

My first ever milwaukee tool. Ive been a dewalt guy but they dont make ratchets so I strayed.

 

[Newell33]

I broke out my 2725-21HD M18 string trimmer (non-Quick Loc) for the first time last night. The trimmer worked great and had plenty of power. After trimming around my 1 acre property I still had 3 of the 4 bars lit up on my 12.0 battery.

Although I'm happy with it, I do have a couple of criticisms. The first thing I noticed is that the line advance is very sensitive. I had about 3 or 4 instances where I accidentally advanced the line when I hadn't intended to. The second issue that I noticed right away is that the guard at the bottom is so narrow that it doesn't block hardly any of the debris. After I was done I went back to the shed where I had put my gas powered Stihl trimmer to take a look at the guard on it. It wraps around about twice as far as the Milwaukee. I also noticed that the guard on the new Quick-Loc trimmer appears to cover more area than the guard on my 2725-21HD. I've sent an email to Milwaukee to see if the guards will interchange. If so, I'll likely order one and swap them.

For future reference, if anyone bought the older 2725-21HD string trimmer and is wanting to upgrade to the newer, better guard that comes on the Quick-Loc trimmer, the guard can be ordered directly from Milwaukee. The part number on the new guard is 14-32-0012, and the current cost is $15.00 plus shipping. I went ahead and ordered one, and it should be here tomorrow.

 

[PelicanPines]

My first ever milwaukee tool. Ive been a dewalt guy but they dont make ratchets so I strayed.

Resistance is futile... you will be assimilated...

I started with 2 M12 tools... uhm... I believe I have 17 M12 tools now... and about 20 batteries... 6 of them 6.0amp...

I was a yellow guy too. I still have 20v yellow tools...

My red and yellow tools live side by side on the same cart... I do not allow them to mate.

Woops... 18 M12 tools... forgot my stapler

 

[KBigg]

Resistance is futile... you will be assimilated...

I started with 2 M12 tools... uhm... I believe I have 17 M12 tools now... and about 20 batteries... 6 of them 6.0amp...

I was a yellow guy too. I still have 20v yellow tools...

My red and yellow tools live side by side on the same cart... I do not allow them to mate.

Woops... 18 M12 tools... forgot my stapler

I pretty much have everything I want from the 20v dewalt line. Your right though, resistance is futile. The M12 line is soooo appealing.