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Added the Fuel gen2 leaf blower to the mix since I wanted the bigger 8Ah battery anyways, and decided to tack on a Fuel 4.5" angle grinder too.



I was originally skeptical about trying the M12 1/4" die grinder, but as soon as I used it I knew I needed a 2nd... to avoid constantly switching arbors out for cutting vs sanding/grinding.



The die grinders also quickly confirmed that I really don't want or need compressed air anymore, and and along with that is the realization that I really don't want cords anymore either... so the addition of the angle grinder rounds out that move to cordless metalwork.



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Really nice stuff... I think I got 3 grinders m18... and 7 corded, 6 13amp.... I kinda agree about air..

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Almost all my air tools are obsolete and rarely ever used anymore. Corded tools are nearly there for me too. Wish I had a nice way of organizing my cordless tools. Nice job
 

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The die grinders also quickly confirmed that I really don't want or need compressed air anymore, and and along with that is the realization that I really don't want cords anymore either... so the addition of the angle grinder rounds out that move to cordless metalwork.

I grew up with air in my parents garage, so when my wife and I bought our house about 2 years ago, I started keeping my eyes open for a good used compressor for my garage.

...then I found the M12 line and quickly stopped searching for a compressor. Funny how things work :dunno:
 

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Added the Fuel gen2 leaf blower to the mix since I wanted the bigger 8Ah battery anyways, and decided to tack on a Fuel 4.5" angle grinder too.

I was originally skeptical about trying the M12 1/4" die grinder, but as soon as I used it I knew I needed a 2nd... to avoid constantly switching arbors out for cutting vs sanding/grinding.

The die grinders also quickly confirmed that I really don't want or need compressed air anymore, and and along with that is the realization that I really don't want cords anymore either... so the addition of the angle grinder rounds out that move to cordless metalwork.

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Very nice setup. I am now wondering the last time I used an air tool, or a power corded tool?:dunno:

I never ever use my impact wrench anymore, the M18 might be more powerful, and definitely more convenient!:bowdown:
 

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Literally the only reason I still have a compressor is because there's no such thing as an cordless air hammer. As soon as one comes out, goodbye air.
 

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I bought an air compressor last year and I've been dying to get tools for it, but the Milwaukee cordless tools are so convenient and do the job so well. M12 3/8" stubby pulls everything off except the big suspension bolts (breaker bar needed).

Large inflatable pool toys and car detailing does need the compressor though.
 

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@ttf5003

Since he's referring to my pix, and Imgur is derp, I'll re-post them:

"cheating" with a 3.0 on the Gen2:
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A "more-fair" look:
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L to R - M12 Stubby, M18 Mid Gen 2, M18 Mid Gen 1

Honestly, if you're buying something, I'd strongly recommend the Mid Gen 2 - It's far more powerful than the Stubby or the Compact and with a 3.0 HO battery it's not a terrible weight at all.

Thanks a lot for the pictures. The Mid Gen 2 with a 3.0 is pretty small. I'm guessing anyone of them will run a Log Hog into pine logs though. So the M12 would be probably be lightest but I do have more m18 batteries. Decisions, decisions.
 

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The fact that the battery on the M18's sticks out as far as the anvil is just such a failure in design compared to the M12 with the angled handle.

It's like the designers have never taken off a nut/bolt that is recessed below a flat plane (like any lug nut on almost any vehicle...except the front wheels on a dually pickup).
 

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Hi,

Could someone point me to a photo of a M12 Stubby side by side with a M18 Compact? I have both battery systems and am looking for a good impact to drive long lags while building a log cabin this summer. Looking for the smallest lightest package but I do have more M18 batteries than M12.

Thanks

Thanks a lot for the pictures. The Mid Gen 2 with a 3.0 is pretty small. I'm guessing anyone of them will run a Log Hog into pine logs though. So the M12 would be probably be lightest but I do have more m18 batteries. Decisions, decisions.

I don't have a M12 Stubby to post a comparison pic of the M18 3rd gen Compact but a few other things to consider.

Most everyone will say to get the M12 Stubby cause it will fit better in confined areas because of the compact battery option and I agree. I'm in the minority as I held off from getting the M12 Stubby & stuck with my M18 2nd gen Compact. When the M18 3rd gen Compact came out & went on sale I had to have one.

M18 3rd gen Compact head size is slighty shorter than the M12 stubby & the diameter/width of head is also slightly smaller. But they're basically the same in size & so is power. M18 will give you much more runtime. Sure you can just swap the battery on the M12 but I love not having to carry extra batteries or a charger with me when I'm out somewhere. The tri-led lighting is just awesome too. Since I upgraded to the 2nd gen Mid-Torque I had to have the tri-led on compact as well to match.

But the main reason I went with the M18 is the smaller handle grip. Me personally I don't like the fat grip of M12 tools because of the in handle battery. If I have no other choice (like with the ratchet & die grinders) only then will I go with M12. I guess I just have stubby fingers (I wear large for glove size). M18 is so much more comfortable for me to hold. Most M12 tools, because of the fat grip I feel like I can't get a firm grip on the handle & feels like a loss of tool control depending on the tool, also more fatigue. Even though the M18 Compact is heavier than the M12 Stubby I personally prefer the M18 Compact cause it fits my hand so much better.
 

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Darkzero, that's a good write up and the handle grip is another important thing to consider. Thanks!
 

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The fact that the battery on the M18's sticks out as far as the anvil is just such a failure in design compared to the M12 with the angled handle.

It's like the designers have never taken off a nut/bolt that is recessed below a flat plane (like any lug nut on almost any vehicle...except the front wheels on a dually pickup).

This.

It's even a problem on the 1/4" impact drivers.
 

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Anyone know when the new Milwaukee "shockwave" impact socket sets will be available in-store? So far I've only seen the 3/8" SAE deep in 1 or 2 stores. Half of the lineup is not available for order online either.

I know the pandemic has screwed up supply chains, but I don't understand why Milwaukee announces new products that take a year (give or take) to hit the stores if they are carried in-store at all and if they are not even going to be available online.
 

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Anyone know when the new Milwaukee "shockwave" impact socket sets will be available in-store? So far I've only seen the 3/8" SAE deep in 1 or 2 stores. Half of the lineup is not available for order online either.

I know the pandemic has screwed up supply chains, but I don't understand why Milwaukee announces new products that take a year (give or take) to hit the stores if they are carried in-store at all and if they are not even going to be available online.

You can buy them now, at a good price, but it does say pre-order, that's odd.

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I thought they were available already, NAPA had the metric set in their new flyer, figured B&M had stock. Usually online retailers have earlier available stock because direct ship from Milwaukee or less distribution legs.

Anyone know when the new Milwaukee "shockwave" impact socket sets will be available in-store? So far I've only seen the 3/8" SAE deep in 1 or 2 stores. Half of the lineup is not available for order online either.

I know the pandemic has screwed up supply chains, but I don't understand why Milwaukee announces new products that take a year (give or take) to hit the stores if they are carried in-store at all and if they are not even going to be available online.

You can buy them now, at a good price, but it does say pre-order, that's odd.
 

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You can buy them now, at a good price, but it does say pre-order, that's odd.

Everything on ACME shows pre-order with an est. ship date of June.

As for Home Depot online, they show 18 items and only 5 of which are actually available and only 1 of those 5 are available in-store.

If you look on Milwaukee's website, everything I see except those at HD are showing out of stock, backorder or pre-order.

I know they were only announced about 3 months ago, I just find it annoying when companies announce new products and customers have to wait months for those products to actually be available. Oh well...
 

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Anyone know when the new Milwaukee "shockwave" impact socket sets will be available in-store? So far I've only seen the 3/8" SAE deep in 1 or 2 stores. Half of the lineup is not available for order online either.

I know the pandemic has screwed up supply chains, but I don't understand why Milwaukee announces new products that take a year (give or take) to hit the stores if they are carried in-store at all and if they are not even going to be available online.

To keep users from switching platforms.
If you know its coming you'll be more likely to wait...salivating.
 

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Tried to buy the packout drawer yesterday. The local Home Depot’s all said limited stock check the store. None of them had it even though their computer was showing 1 or 2. So annoying.
 

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The fact that the battery on the M18's sticks out as far as the anvil is just such a failure in design compared to the M12 with the angled handle.

It's like the designers have never taken off a nut/bolt that is recessed below a flat plane (like any lug nut on almost any vehicle...except the front wheels on a dually pickup).

:wtf: I haven't this problem on either of my mid-torques. What kind of socket are you using?
 

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:wtf: I haven't this problem on either of my mid-torques. What kind of socket are you using?

I have the first generation mid torque. Using deep impact sockets I will run into this problem on certain cars. I have to hold the gun upside down or in weird positions to clear the rim.
 
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Used a few things recently which I have had sitting around for a while.

Broke out my 9" cut off saw to help a neighbor make some cuts in a patio section he is going to break up. Point was to clean cut from what dont want damaged and is staying put and cut up the sections a bit to help with breakup if there is reinforcement in the concrete. The saw exceeded my expectations, used it with the M18 water supply kit. The saw may not be the fastest but it cuts beautifully, you just need to take your time and be patient to not set off the yellow or red warning light which tells you its being pushed too hard. It cuts easily through concrete and rock, we wont know if there was any rebar or mesh in there until he breaks it up, but it didnt feel like I encountered any rebar. If there is then wow its an amazing saw. It cuts so smooth and straight, no problems even though I never used it before, water flow on setting 3. It does go through batteries pretty fast. I would say I cut about 35 feet at varying 4-6" deep, lots of 1/2" rock mixed concrete, and used 5 12s and 2 8s. You would have to be the worlds strongest man to used the backpack water supply and the saw in a completely mobile sense.

Used the water supply tank and the sprayer on the M18 base. It works great but fill it with 4 gallons and it is very heavy on the back. The sprayer is awesome but for some reason my tank leaks a tiny bit on and off the base, the water supply tank didnt leak at all. Might have to warranty the tank. Only thing it tanks a min or two for the system to prime and start flowing.

Finally fired up the M18 compressor for the first time. Its quieter than I expected, fills faster than my 2g corded pancake, and works great. It is quite heavy though. I dont like that the handle is on the side and the frame on the opposite side has no rubber feet. The rubber feet are on the bottom. Why put a handle on the side with feet on the bottom, makes no sense.
 

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Just finished this little fabrication cart project and it's sporting the m12 band saw and the m18 metal cutting circular saw but man is it hard to look at that yellow saw on the Swag table amongst all that red. Maybe someone will trade me...84186a74f845810b179008ad3daa9a69.jpg
 

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I got the 3 drawer packout yesterday. That was hard to find.

Does anyone know of it is supposed to come with the drawer dividers?

It is. I looked at them at one of the local HDs the other day and there was a pack loose in them. Someone could have easily walked off with them.
 

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Spent Saturday night checking over one of my cars for upcoming PA inspection, so I was able to use my new M12 Stubby Impact for the first time. With alloy wheels, I finish 'em with a torque wrench at 100 ft.lbs. At first, it seemed a little weak and slow in breaking nuts loose, but got the job done. I'm still figuring out what setting to use when installing wheels, between the three speeds and the "stop at impact" setting, but that will come with experience.
I also have an air impact, a 120v and a M18 non-fuel. This little Stubby is a joy to use, in comparison to all the others. The 3.0 battery still has all the lights on, so it will probably serve well for a day's work in a home garage setting. Also, with the smaller size and lighter weight, I'll probably find it used a lot more in underhood and undercar settings than the other monsters.
Kudos to the GJ members for leading this tired, old home mechanic to the Milwaukee line, especially the M12 stuff.

Bill
 

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Just finished this little fabrication cart project and it's sporting the m12 band saw and the m18 metal cutting circular saw but man is it hard to look at that yellow saw on the Swag table amongst all that red. Maybe someone will trade me...84186a74f845810b179008ad3daa9a69.jpg
I have no real desire to pick this appart.

But...

2 points. No access to the disk. Using the saw to cut anything of length would be impeded by the sander.

Flip the sander 180 and move it to the back right corner.

Anyway, nice set up.
 

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Has anyone purchased the new right angle grinder protective boot? Thoughts on it if you have. Thanks

I have it. Like all of MW's other boots, they're nicely made, fit absolutely perfect, and expensive/overpriced.

I've always had vinyl boots on my air tools. MW's boots are thick rubber so they'll protect the tool from getting banged up as well as what you are working on. But I'm not sure how the MW rubber boots will hold up to automotive fluids or whatever if you work on cars. I don't work on cars daily for a living anymore so I'll never know how they'll hold up to long term abuse.

I could live without all my protective boots since I'm just a DIY'r now but I'm a sucker & had to buy them for all tools I have that they're available for.
 

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Thanks for... not picking it apart :)

Prior to the cart I had the grinder and the bandsaw set up just like this but on separate stands, right next to each other. 95% of my use is in that place but occasionally if I am doing a bunch of grinding or cutting, I would wheel them out the door. There is a wall immediately to the left and my toolbox immediately to the right. I learned a lot about my use habits in the year or so of that setup:

1. The disc is useless. Since I put the trick tools sander conversion on, I have not had occasion to use it once. I even went through the trouble originally of making a bracket to hold the little cast aluminum table that should allow it to be used with a miter gauge (see picture) and I still never used it. If I ever wanted to use it, I could switch sides of the grinder and put it on the right, but I would still have to move the cart out to get out of the way of my toolbox. Instead, I have been contemplating putting a diamond disc on the left side and drilling a couple holes to mount a drill bit sharpening jig, which I still have room for on the left side.

2) Cutting long stock is never ideal here anyway because I'm limited by the wall on the left, and because it's difficult to get a square cut feeding something long crossways into a bandsaw. I find if I want to cut something long, I clamp it in my vise and use the smaller, lighter, handheld bandsaw pictured below the cart, or if I really need a square cut, I use my Evo saw that lives on my little fab table in the middle of my shop where I have more room.

Flipping the grinder around is a non starter because this lives against a wall. It would mean I have to move the whole thing out of the shop every time I wanted to use the sander or deburr something on the wire wheel. Not practical.
 

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Thanks for... not picking it apart :)

Prior to the cart I had the grinder and the bandsaw set up just like this but on separate stands, right next to each other. 95% of my use is in that place but occasionally if I am doing a bunch of grinding or cutting, I would wheel them out the door. There is a wall immediately to the left and my toolbox immediately to the right. I learned a lot about my use habits in the year or so of that setup:

1. The disc is useless. Since I put the trick tools sander conversion on, I have not had occasion to use it once. I even went through the trouble originally of making a bracket to hold the little cast aluminum table that should allow it to be used with a miter gauge (see picture) and I still never used it. If I ever wanted to use it, I could switch sides of the grinder and put it on the right, but I would still have to move the cart out to get out of the way of my toolbox. Instead, I have been contemplating putting a diamond disc on the left side and drilling a couple holes to mount a drill bit sharpening jig, which I still have room for on the left side.

2) Cutting long stock is never ideal here anyway because I'm limited by the wall on the left, and because it's difficult to get a square cut feeding something long crossways into a bandsaw. I find if I want to cut something long, I clamp it in my vise and use the smaller, lighter, handheld bandsaw pictured below the cart, or if I really need a square cut, I use my Evo saw that lives on my little fab table in the middle of my shop where I have more room.

Flipping the grinder around is a non starter because this lives against a wall. It would mean I have to move the whole thing out of the shop every time I wanted to use the sander or deburr something on the wire wheel. Not practical.

Understand. Sometimes casters are just a convenience. Sometimes something else. I have a small shop and everything is on casters and I move things on a daily basis if I am spending time in the shop. I saw the casters and thought...

Anyway, nice set up. I like that belt sander.
 

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I got the 3 drawer packout yesterday. That was hard to find.

Does anyone know of it is supposed to come with the drawer dividers?

Yes, only enough to outfit 1 drawer fully. I think it's 2 long and 6 smaller dividers. You will need to buy dividers for the other drawers.
 

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Yes, only enough to outfit 1 drawer fully. I think it's 2 long and 6 smaller dividers. You will need to buy dividers for the other drawers.

I just want to make the drawer into 3 compartments. If it works the way I think I’ll need to order more to do the other 2 drawers.

Edit: Just checked my message from Milwaukee and they say the order is placed for my missing pieces but they are on back order.
 

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I bought the 106 piece Packout socket set when HD had it on sale the other day for $229. I love the look, feel and finish of the ratchets and sockets. Love how they all if fit in there case and work with my hole system. However the price has start to set in. Am I crazy?? $250 with tax, normally doesn’t bother me but this one is for some reason. Contemplating returning the set. Who has them? Are they worth it? It will not be a daily use set. I will keep it in my job trailer and also take it when I go camping.
 
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I can't comment on the quality of the sockets but I think the price is rather high. I've thought about replacing/upgrading my existing Craftsman socket set with the Milwaukee stuff but then again, why? Sure my Craftsman sockets aren't the nicest on the market, but they are much nicer than any HF stuff I've seen and they have always gotten the job done. I've never needed a higher quality socket and if I'm being honest, I'd probably buy SnapOn if I wanted something nicer. If you didn't already have a socket set that you could fit into a packout and you wanted to go packout then I could see the value proposition there. If you already have a set you are happy with, I'd say buy a packout (40 bux https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwauk...le-Small-Parts-Organizer-48-22-8431/305821977) and kaizen foam it or snag a packout tray (20 bux https://www.ebay.com/itm/174778017764) and put your existing socket set into that.

We could argue who has the best sockets/ratchets all day but it doesn't really matter. My personal preference for sockets and ratchets specifically is SnapOn. IMO, at the end of the day personal preference is mostly what separates the higher tier hand tools. Maybe someone could give us a quick rundown on Milwaukee vs SnapOn sockets/ratchets? Or even Milwaukee vs Craftsman?

After seeing how cheap it would be to roll my own packout ratchet setup, I'm considering doing just that myself....
 
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