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Firefighter1406

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I absolutely love the all in one set up. And the tools do seem to be a better then average quality. But I think the price is my hang up.
 
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The fact that the battery on the M18's sticks out as far as the anvil is just such a failure in design compared to the M12 with the angled handle.

It's like the designers have never taken off a nut/bolt that is recessed below a flat plane (like any lug nut on almost any vehicle...except the front wheels on a dually pickup).
I'll have to see how the Mid Gen 2 is on my old BMW - that one has pretty deep-dish wheels so the lugs are also kinda down there, but I'm not expecting any trouble. To be honest, having a short extension isn't a problem for me for me if it's just lugs on one car. So far it has been 100% awesome - love the form factor, weight, size, balance, handling, lights, power... everything. I'm not sure what a meaningful realistic upgrade would be for this thing would be...
I don't have a M12 Stubby to post a comparison pic of the M18 3rd gen Compact but a few other things to consider.

Most everyone will say to get the M12 Stubby cause it will fit better in confined areas because of the compact battery option and I agree. I'm in the minority as I held off from getting the M12 Stubby & stuck with my M18 2nd gen Compact. When the M18 3rd gen Compact came out & went on sale I had to have one.

M18 3rd gen Compact head size is slighty shorter than the M12 stubby & the diameter/width of head is also slightly smaller. But they're basically the same in size & so is power. M18 will give you much more runtime. Sure you can just swap the battery on the M12 but I love not having to carry extra batteries or a charger with me when I'm out somewhere. The tri-led lighting is just awesome too. Since I upgraded to the 2nd gen Mid-Torque I had to have the tri-led on compact as well to match.

But the main reason I went with the M18 is the smaller handle grip. Me personally I don't like the fat grip of M12 tools because of the in handle battery. If I have no other choice (like with the ratchet & die grinders) only then will I go with M12. I guess I just have stubby fingers (I wear large for glove size). M18 is so much more comfortable for me to hold. Most M12 tools, because of the fat grip I feel like I can't get a firm grip on the handle & feels like a loss of tool control depending on the tool, also more fatigue. Even though the M18 Compact is heavier than the M12 Stubby I personally prefer the M18 Compact cause it fits my hand so much better.
I think we've had this conversation before. I guess it is worth laying hands on them before you buy, but I don't really notice much difference in the handles between the Stubby and the Mid Gen2, though I wouldn't mind a bit less girth on my Fuel ratchet (though an M18 would probably make that tool stupid). I just finished a project where I was swapping a lot between the Mid Gen2 (w/ a 3.0 battery) and the Stubby and they were both fantastic.

As far as battery life, a Stubby w/ a 6.0Ah battery is going to do a lot of work before conking out. Battery life is a non-issue, at least for a day of running pretty hard. I mean, if you were building a bridge or something I could see M18 being the clear choice, but even for a guy in a pro shop I'd guess that setup would last a whole day. Pretty sure Brian at How To Automotive on YouTube has made that comment.
 

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Spent Saturday night checking over one of my cars for upcoming PA inspection, so I was able to use my new M12 Stubby Impact for the first time. With alloy wheels, I finish 'em with a torque wrench at 100 ft.lbs. At first, it seemed a little weak and slow in breaking nuts loose, but got the job done. I'm still figuring out what setting to use when installing wheels, between the three speeds and the "stop at impact" setting, but that will come with experience.
Spent Saturday night checking over one of my cars for upcoming PA inspection, so I was able to use my new M12 Stubby Impact for the first time. With alloy wheels, I finish 'em with a torque wrench at 100 ft.lbs. At first, it seemed a little weak and slow in breaking nuts loose, but got the job done. I'm still figuring out what setting to use when installing wheels, between the three speeds and the "stop at impact" setting, but that will come with experience.
For me, I generally use the "Stop" setting or setting 1 for the Stubby. To finish to 100 lb-ft, you might be able to get away with setting 2 - guessing you'll get around 80-90 lb-ft there. For me, I don't mind a few extra seconds per wheel to "creep up" on the torque setting.
This little Stubby is a joy to use, in comparison to all the others. The 3.0 battery still has all the lights on, so it will probably serve well for a day's work in a home garage setting. Also, with the smaller size and lighter weight, I'll probably find it used a lot more in underhood and undercar settings than the other monsters.
Kudos to the GJ members for leading this tired, old home mechanic to the Milwaukee line, especially the M12 stuff.

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It's funny - I'm a huge fan of the Stubby, but I haven't used it under the hood at all. My 3/8" Fuel ratchet has been a rock-star there. I guess I'm a little conservative about how much power I'm laying down under the hood, so it's always been more hand-tool-ish. I've done a fair bit of stuff on the four family vehicles in the last year or so, and the combo of the Stubby and the ratchet have been fantastic. Occasionally my Surge and a 1/4" anvil bit makes an appearance on the automotive stuff, but it's pretty rare... (the Surge is my favorite overall power tool)
 

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I think we've had this conversation before. I guess it is worth laying hands on them before you buy, but I don't really notice much difference in the handles between the Stubby and the Mid Gen2
I don't think we've have. I don't recall ever debating about it with anyone but I have mentioned it before as a few others have. No matter though, it's all personal preference, everyone has different size hands. Me, I notice the difference in ergonomics on every M12 I've used. Dewalts 12V line is much more confortable to me but that's cause the battery is not inline in the handle.
 

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Probably old news for y'all but I finally got a chance to put the m12 die grinders to real use and if you are planning to use them for anything more than deburring you really should get the bigger batteries. I have a ton of the 1.5 and 2.0s and it eats them like popcorn.

They are fantastic tools but suffer from huge power draw.

Sean
 

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Probably old news for y'all but I finally got a chance to put the m12 die grinders to real use and if you are planning to use them for anything more than deburring you really should get the bigger batteries. I have a ton of the 1.5 and 2.0s and it eats them like popcorn.

They are fantastic tools but suffer from huge power draw.

Sean
Can confirm. I use only 3.0+ on my right angle die grinder, if I can help it.
 

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Yup, same here, I use 3.0s with my stright die grinder & 6.0s with my RA die grinder. I like standing my RA die grinder upright with the 6.0 (I don't own any 4.0s). The straight die grinder I don't care since it's longer.
 

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A lot of Milwaukee here but not much packout. I put kaizen foam in a small one for my laser which has been great. I recently took acrylic that was left over from a COVID screen for a friend and made dividers for a crate to store smaller tools. So far it’s great, other than the tools stick out the top.

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I've been LOVING my RA die grinder. I am away from home right now but I've been using it on my engine swap project to clean gaskets and I can't get enough of it.
 

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I've been LOVING my RA die grinder. I am away from home right now but I've been using it on my engine swap project to clean gaskets and I can't get enough of it.

Yep, I ended up buying a second one!

The other thing I did was replace the thin stamped wrenches with a couple of stubby wrenches… they fit nicely on the arbor and are more comfortable in the hand!
 

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I’ve posted before in this thread I think, but with other tools.

Since starting with the other shop, I bought more Milwaukee stuff because everyone uses dewalt. This way, it’s easy to differentiate who’s is who’s.

I’m loving the packouts. If I have to park my truck a distance from the area I’m working, I just unload them and wheel them to where I’m working. Bam. All my tools right there! Haha
 

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Posted this elsewhere, but here is one of my Packout solutions. This is all headed for Hawaii… tools we’re duplicates I had in my shop.
 

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The above toolbox is double layer… I used slim organizers for drivers and drill bits. 3D printed bins obviously…
 

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I bought the 2767-22GG package last week, oh my, this grease gun is fantastic. Puts my old Lincoln to shame! Multiple speeds, plus grease pump settings? :love:

Now I’m looking for a couple more batteries and I’ll probably end up grabbing a 3/8” impact for every day use - the 1/2” big boy is just too bulky for covers and hatches. I also want a sawzall, even though I have a generator and compressor on my truck...they’re just handy and quick. Same goes for a drill...

Can someone explain the battery terminology Milwaukee uses? My kit came with a 5.0XC. I also see 6.0 “high output” available. Besides the obvious 1Ah difference, does extended capacity vs high output vs whatever else is available make any noticeable difference? These batteries are expensive and I’d rather buy the right thing from the jump.

Finally, is there anywhere to trade my older M12 stuff? Would be nice to get a few bucks on this lightly used stuff to replace with m18.
 
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I love the grease gun. I put the lock n live o. Mine and it’s an amazing combo. I will say I got the kit that came with the 1.5 batteries and they were useless. I could only grease one bug machine before the battery died. I switched them out with a 3.0 and a 5.0 so I can easily make it through the work week.
 

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Trying to figure out which M18 Vacuum is the latest Generation...
0880-22, I'm assuming is the latest ? (Tool only)
TIA
 

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Trying to figure out which M18 Vacuum is the latest Generation...
0880-22, I'm assuming is the latest ? (Tool only)
TIA

....anyone

Yes & no. As far as the M18 wet/dry vacs, no it's not the latest if you count the PACKOUT version 0970-20. If you don't count the PACKOUT version then yes, that is the latest generation but.....

0880-20 is tool only. 22 usually means kit w/ batteries but I 'm not sure this vac was actually available in kit form originally put together by MW.

The 1st generation had external hose storage & could not be used with a 12.0 batt, power switch is in the middle. The 2nd generation which is the latest (not including the PACKOUT) has internal hose storage & can fit a 12.0, power switch is off to the right side. But the p/n did not change for the 2nd gen, it's still 0880-20. Some vendors list the 2nd gen as 0880-22 as tool only to distinguish it from the 1st gen & some vendors list it as 0880-22 as a kit w/ batts that they include themselves. I have the second gen, the p/n on it is 0880-20.

1st gen
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Yes & no. As far as the M18 wet/dry vacs, no it's not the latest if you count the PACKOUT version 0970-20. If you don't count the PACKOUT version then yes, that is the latest generation but.....

0880-20 is tool only. 22 usually means kit w/ batteries but I 'm not sure this vac was actually available in kit form originally put together by MW.

The 1st generation had external hose storage & could not be used with a 12.0 batt, power switch is in the middle. The 2nd generation which is the latest (not including the PACKOUT) has internal hose storage & can fit a 12.0, power switch is off to the right side. But the p/n did not change for the 2nd gen, it's still 0880-20. Some vendors list the 2nd gen as 0880-22 as tool only to distinguish it from the 1st gen & some vendors list it as 0880-22 as a kit w/ batts that they include themselves. I have the second gen, the p/n on it is 0880-20.

1st gen
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2nd gen
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Thanks for the info.
 

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Cant remember if anyone has posted about a M18 12.0 dying? I have one that only charges to 3 bars, tried on various chargers and they all show green. Either its only charging to 75% or the 4th light is out.
 

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I have a 12.0 that's maybe a year old, but had literally 30 seconds of actual use. broke it out this weekend to use on my polesaw, and it died after about 10 seconds. Charger shows it fully charged, but it won't work on any M18 tool. I got it brand new, but at a significant discount based on a thread I found here. Pretty disappointing.
 

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Yes & no. As far as the M18 wet/dry vacs, no it's not the latest if you count the PACKOUT version 0970-20. If you don't count the PACKOUT version then yes, that is the latest generation but.....

0880-20 is tool only. 22 usually means kit w/ batteries but I 'm not sure this vac was actually available in kit form originally put together by MW.

The 1st generation had external hose storage & could not be used with a 12.0 batt, power switch is in the middle. The 2nd generation which is the latest (not including the PACKOUT) has internal hose storage & can fit a 12.0, power switch is off to the right side. But the p/n did not change for the 2nd gen, it's still 0880-20. Some vendors list the 2nd gen as 0880-22 as tool only to distinguish it from the 1st gen & some vendors list it as 0880-22 as a kit w/ batts that they include themselves. I have the second gen, the p/n on it is 0880-20.

1st gen
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2nd gen
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PACKOUT
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Pretty good summary. I have both the Packout Vac and 1st Gen Vac. The packout vac is very nice, but you also pay the packout tax for it as well. It's much quieter than the 1st gen and has two power modes.

But what drives me nuts about the Packout vacuum, is that the hose cuff/nozzle is oversized for 1.25" vacuum attachments. Most of my 1.25" attachments won't work without forcing them on. Likewise, the crevice tool is oversized at 1.30" That separate nozzle they include for tools has been equally worthless in my experience.

The 1st gen packout vac at least had properly sized 1.25" vacuum attachments.
 

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Pretty good summary. I have both the Packout Vac and 1st Gen Vac. The packout vac is very nice, but you also pay the packout tax for it as well. It's much quieter than the 1st gen and has two power modes.

But what drives me nuts about the Packout vacuum, is that the hose cuff/nozzle is oversized for 1.25" vacuum attachments. Most of my 1.25" attachments won't work without forcing them on. Likewise, the crevice tool is oversized at 1.30" That separate nozzle they include for tools has been equally worthless in my experience.

The 1st gen packout vac at least had properly sized 1.25" vacuum attachments.
Oh I hear ya! The 2nd gen that I have is oversized also & pisses me off. MW doesn't include a brush attachment & the 1-1/4" attachments I have from my old Shop-Vac don't fit either. Why they made it a proprietary size beats me & is just stupid, no one else really does that. They made it so you'd have to buy replacements from MW which are probably expensive.

I thought about making an adapter but it's not that important to me & I shouldn't have to waste my time making one in the first place. Another reason why I need a 3D printer! :)

Other than that & the placement of the power switch I'm happy with it especially for what I paid for it. IMO the power switch should have been on the left side so you can flip the switch with your thumb while holding the handle.
 

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Oh I hear ya! The 2nd gen that I have is oversized also & pisses me off. MW doesn't include a brush attachment & the 1-1/4" attachments I have from my old Shop-Vac don't fit either. Why they made it a proprietary size beats me & is just stupid, no one else really does that. They made it so you'd have to buy replacements from MW which are probably expensive.

I thought about making an adapter but it's not that important to me & I shouldn't have to waste my time making one in the first place. Another reason why I need a 3D printer! :)

Other than that & the placement of the power switch I'm happy with it especially for what I paid for it. IMO the power switch should have been on the left side so you can flip the switch with your thumb while holding the handle.
I actually did model and create a new hose cuff. It actually fits standard 1.25" attachments, as well as the oversized ones. Threads on just like the stock one. I'll clean up the file and post it later if anyone else with a 3d printer is interested.

Oh and milwaukee did make their own brush specifically for these vacuums. Hard to find though.
 

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I'd be interested in seeing the STL file.
Just published it on thingiverse:
 

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Cant remember if anyone has posted about a M18 12.0 dying? I have one that only charges to 3 bars, tried on various chargers and they all show green. Either its only charging to 75% or the 4th light is out.
Isn't there a self-test mode if you hold the button long enough?
 

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I was able to “port” my old Craftsman C3 vacuum accessories and hose to my MW gen2 without adapters. It gave me the ability to use the hard plastic wands to make it into a floor vacuum and to also reach under furniture etc. Love the gen 2 vacuum!
 

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Just published it on thingiverse:
Awesome, I'll print one out when I get back from this work trip in a couple weeks!
 

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Just published it on thingiverse:
Was going to print one out but having a hard time getting the stock cuff off my gen2 0880 vacuum. I'm guessing it's just friction between the hose and cuff threads but would appreciate any tips?.... Yes I'm turning it the correct direction ☺️
 
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