I also need 2 ups units... one for the router and switch and another for the ont, or a gpon sfp and fiber to the router. I am trying to see if I can upload from the router which has an 8tb drive to the cloud. Maybe cell backup as well....
The Milwaukee addiction thread! :)
- Thread starter JustinsGr8
- Start date
PelicanPines
ALLIANCE MEMBER
I have a UPS for the router/modem/switch... along with a modem for my "MYQ" controller that senses when my doors open/close.
PelicanPines
ALLIANCE MEMBER
I will also add... My chamberlin openers use DC motors with battery backup. They are good for 1/2 a dozen open/closes with no electricity.
Depending on your provider, that GPON SFP may or may not work. Some just VLAN tag it but some do other stuff as well. I'd prefer to stick a GPON SFP into one of my devices and get rid of my ONT but I'm moving in a month and a half so I'm not even going to try. At my new place there is no fiber so back to cable for me :-(
I'm not sure if the UDM Pro has built in support for cell but you can always look at something like a cradle point for cell backup.
I lived in AZ for 41 of my 45 years. We could do things to thieves that would surely get you thrown in jail in liberal NJ, and with JHP rounds.
Sorry to hear that 48548 got robbed. I lived at Tatum and Cactus in Phenix for 11 years, it was getting bad when we left for Flagstaff in 2016. Several of my neighbors got robbed over the years. I stopped for gas at Tatum and Thunderbird in December 2020 and was shocked at how much worse it had gotten in just a few years. Trash everywhere, way more homeless and panhandlers, etc. I always carried a gun while living there, might need to upgrade to a rifle for any return trips.
Tatum and bell.....
ThatSickRip
Well-known member
- Joined
- May 23, 2017
- Messages
- 763
Had a few beers the other night and made a purchase not sure I really need, but guess I can justify for the lawnmower 
M12 1/2" Stubby kit with 2.0 and 4.0 battery and a free 6.0 was $239 at HD, and I had a 10% coupon so got it for $215.10
M12 1/2" Stubby kit with 2.0 and 4.0 battery and a free 6.0 was $239 at HD, and I had a 10% coupon so got it for $215.10
Bighead38
Well-known member
Sounds like a good deal.Had a few beers the other night and made a purchase not sure I really need, but guess I can justify for the lawnmower
M12 1/2" Stubby kit with 2.0 and 4.0 battery and a free 6.0 was $239 at HD, and I had a 10% coupon so got it for $215.10
logixjock
Well-known member
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I feel your pain Rip. Some of my best tool buys occurred in just this manner.Had a few beers the other night and made a purchase not sure I really need, but guess I can justify for the lawnmower
M12 1/2" Stubby kit with 2.0 and 4.0 battery and a free 6.0 was $239 at HD, and I had a 10% coupon so got it for $215.10
Which should I chose for a professional fabrication shop, the 12 or 18v Milwaukee? Its a bit of a commitment with multiple chargers, batteries & devices that I'd expect to last for years and I don't want to make a bad choice. Is there another brand I should look into?
joseywales
Well-known member
That's a fantastic deal. The Stubby is a great tool.Had a few beers the other night and made a purchase not sure I really need, but guess I can justify for the lawnmower
M12 1/2" Stubby kit with 2.0 and 4.0 battery and a free 6.0 was $239 at HD, and I had a 10% coupon so got it for $215.10
Mostly sheetmetal stuff, occasional hole in thicker steel. I just went to look and I actually have some M12 and I'm not satisfied with them, they're weak and the chuck won't clamp tight on a drill bit so it screws up the shank. Is the 18v stuff more industrial? and use a chuck key?
PelicanPines
ALLIANCE MEMBER
Black300zx
Well-known member
I almost pulled the trigger on that as well, but resisted. My "want versus need" sense came back to meHad a few beers the other night and made a purchase not sure I really need, but guess I can justify for the lawnmower
M12 1/2" Stubby kit with 2.0 and 4.0 battery and a free 6.0 was $239 at HD, and I had a 10% coupon so got it for $215.10
Is it the brushed M12, or the brushless "fuel" version? Big difference. My m12 fuel drill and impact driver have about as much power as my 18v ryobi counterparts
M18 vs M12 is impossible to determine w/o knowing what you intend to use it on, and even then battery selection I important as well. A M18 drill with a 3.0 battery is going to handle way different then with a 5.0, and the same goes for the power of the various M12 tools with bigger batteries.
mike528
Well-known member
it sounds like its not the brushless, m12 fuel set and that drill will out perform the standard m18 drill. and the m12 fuel will work great in most sheetmetal and light fab work, that said, the m18 is a monster, and i also agree that you should eventually buy both. the m12 is good for tight spots and repeated use, but sometimes you just need more power/torque.
Slednut
Well-known member
Replacement M18 12.0 showed up today, took almost 3 months to get it, just as another 12.0 died this week.
Who else has had 12.0s die? Is it another early 9.0 problem. I'm sure many use the 12s more than I do, crazy I had 2 die, they were early gens.
Who else has had 12.0s die? Is it another early 9.0 problem. I'm sure many use the 12s more than I do, crazy I had 2 die, they were early gens.
Oh yeah; 2lbs stubby vs 3.9 on the new gen 1/2. Good call
I'd recommend the Gent 2 Mid Torque (which I've done here many times) - it's going to get almost everything off, and you can run it with a 3.0 HO battery and still get almost all the juice. And it's pretty close to the size of a Stubby and still feels pretty light in the hand:
I can weigh both of those setups if it helps.
logixjock
Well-known member
You guys recommending the M12 stubby have got to be joking. It won't touch 3/4 of the lug nuts I've tried it on, I don't even bother getting it out of my box anymore.
The mid-torque is the answer here, it has the balls to be useful without being too heavy to sling around.
The mid-torque is the answer here, it has the balls to be useful without being too heavy to sling around.
Depends if you are working on big trucks or regular size passenger cars. I don't own an M12 stubby myself but I haven't seen a single person here other than you say anything bad about it. Many people are using it very successfully for doing tires all day long. Right tool for the job though, if the lugs you are working on are larger in size and simply require more torque to get off, sure the M18 is the way to go. The reason I mentioned the M12 stubby is because it is nice and light and that is what Sdot said he wanted. I just figured he was working more in the passenger car space.
I've got the stubby in 3/8 drive, and I have no complains, but I'm pretty sure it wouldn't touch half the lugs I run into... which is fine because that's not what I bought or use it for.
It'll probably take lugs off when the wheels were removed a few months ago and torqued to spec. Not when it's been a year+, in the rust belt, and the lugs were straight gunned on with a full size impact
It'll probably take lugs off when the wheels were removed a few months ago and torqued to spec. Not when it's been a year+, in the rust belt, and the lugs were straight gunned on with a full size impact
Boy do I love my Stubby (#thingsisayonGJ) - the thing is lugs have a funny way of randomly making themselves hard to get off even when not over-torqued, and sometimes my M12 1/2" Stubby balks.
The Gen2 Mid hasn't balked at anything - it's made stuff bow down. Any lug that hasn't been abused isn't going to make it blink, and any lug that does probably warrants inspection from over-torqued damage. It hasn't had any problems with anything I've thrown at it at all. I don't live in the rustbelt, but... (As an idiot with momentum, I also had the 2767 but literally never needed it so I sold it)
Weights:
M12 Stubby 1/2" w/ bumper and 4.0Ah battery (said to be the zippiest one)
1437g / 3.17lb
M18 Mid Torque Gen2 w/ bumper and 3.0HO battery (shown on the Torque Test Channel to deliver ~95% of full-power - I can't verify that, but it sure didn't have problems with anything when I did the whole suspension on my Mini recently)
2300g / 5.07lb
So... almost exactly 60% heavier than the Stubby for the Gen2. And while waving around a 5lb weight at arms-length definitely gets tiring, the 863g/1.9lb difference isn't THAT much. That said, as a doofus in my garage there's a reason I really liked the idea of having both. And yet, if the Cosmos decided I was only allowed to have one, the Gen2 would easily be the choice.
Hope all that helps!
^Got a good few laughs reading that. thanks. The weight comparison is great, gonna throw the 2767 w 3.0ah batt on scale & report back.
Sounds like you got it right, those both minus the 2767. Something says ill always hold onto it, cause always need BFH at one point or another. But, the wrist's definitely starting to feel it a few years now.
Sounds like you got it right, those both minus the 2767. Something says ill always hold onto it, cause always need BFH at one point or another. But, the wrist's definitely starting to feel it a few years now.
It's unclear to me if the 3.0 HO delivers nearly-full power on the 2767 or not - I can't recall if the Torque Test guy said in the video that older impacts don't have the wiring/circuitry to achieve that benefit or I got that impression here (or whoknowswhere), but worth checking. I think the 2767 will be not-weak with any functioning battery though. (I think the 2767 overlapped the Gen2 in my garage by a week or so - wish I'd taken pix with it and the Gen1 and Gen2 Mids. You genuinely get an idea of the girth of the 2767 next to the Mid Gen1 (which I still need to sell) - it would have been even more apparent/significant vs. the Gen2.
More pix for illustration:
2767-->Mid Gen1-->M12 Stubby
Mid Gen1 Top vs. 2767 Bottom - imaging how small the Gen2 would be in this pic...
M12 Stubby-->Mid Gen2-->Mid Gen1
If you're a working pro, I can totally see having all three (Stubby/Gen2/2767). The Stubby definitely punches above its weight and fits in super-tight spots, but has (very forgivable) limits while it does 80% of what you need. The Mid Gen2 pays the bill for the additional weight by doing just about everything in a still-convenient size and a very-reasonable-but-more-than-Stubby weight, especially with the 3.0 HO battery. The 2767 is a beast in ways great and not-so-great with I'm-not-asking power in a size and weight that will limit its convenient use and wear you out, but shock and awe when you need it. My $0.02.
Last edited:
javyLSU
Well-known member
It doesn't. I've used the 3.0 HO on both the 2767 high torque and the 2962 Gen 2 Mid-torque. I've run into a few rusted-on bolts that I could not remove using the 3.0 HO using both of these guns. When I switched to a 5.0 XC battery, the fastener came right off - so I've personally experienced a power difference using a 2P battery (5.0 XC) vs a 1P battery (3.0 HO) in both of these guns.
I have to admit I've read the ProtoolsReview and ToolGuyD guides on Milwaukee batteries - 1P/2P/3P, CP/XC/HD/HO, 18650/21700, etc. and I'm still not sure which is "better" - very frustrating. I know not all tools benefit, but jeebus...
FWIW in the discussion above, I also have 6.0 HO and 8.0 HO batteries so if I ever need to switch I can, and certainly in a pro setting I'd recommend having a bigger battery available.
javyLSU
Well-known member
Yeah, there's a ridiculous amount of options, but to simplify it, it's really all about voltage drop when you pull the trigger. The higher amp draw the tool needs, the more it will benefit from having a 2P/3P vs. a 1P battery. The HO batteries may put out a higher nominal current per cell, but in the CP batteries it's at the expense of fewer cells, so more voltage drop. That's why the 6.0 HO and 8.0 HO batteries do so well, because it's the best of both worlds - cells that have a higher discharge rate, as well as a bigger pool of cells.
FWIW, my 2962 Gen 2 Mid-torque lives with the 3.0 HO battery attached, just like you use it. When the rare occasion comes that I need the extra uggas, out comes the bigger batteries. But I'm not lugging that extra weight around when I don't need it 99% of the time...
FWIW, my 2962 Gen 2 Mid-torque lives with the 3.0 HO battery attached, just like you use it. When the rare occasion comes that I need the extra uggas, out comes the bigger batteries. But I'm not lugging that extra weight around when I don't need it 99% of the time...
mobiledynamics
Well-known member
Anyone own the 9" cutoff. GJ Feedback ? Found a 'tube video. Appeared to thermal out too much