The Milwaukee addiction thread! :)

[joe_pinehill1]

The M18 hatchet has come out...

I picked the M12 hatchet up for Christmas, its better than I thought, I can I'll be using this a lot.

 

[pbon]

Have any of you guys come up with (or found through your own searches) a good solution to make a DIY portable carrier for the M18 chargers?

I just toss a charger or 2 in my tool bag. I suppose you could screw or strap or otherwise affix 4 chargers to a 12x12 board, but all my M18 chargers also do M12 so there is still some wasted space.

Maybe to combine portable battery storage and chargers you could build a little rectangular wood box with chargers mounted sideways on the inside and space down the middle between them for batteries. Some sort of lid or strap to hold the batteries in place.

 

[danski0224]

I'm looking at the 6-pack Milwaukee charger, seems nice and compact, and portable, but is sequential only, and I don't have M12 batteries.

There is a 2 position M18 fast charger that charges both batteries at the same time.

 

[mikeinri]

I'm on the precipice of delving into M12 (I keep telling myself to stay away from the light, and stick with ONE platform, M18)...

But, I really want a Hackzall for trimming branches. Held the various offerings (M12 and M18, Fuel and brushed) at HD, amd "think" that the best option is the M12 Fuel. I wouldn't buy non-Fuel, and the M18 seems too big to handle with one hand, after which, what's the point (and why not go to a Sawzall)?

Am I nuts???

Mike

Yes. You can absolutely use the M18 Fuel one handed. It’s an excellent tool.

Thanks. My primary use will be for replacing manual loppers for tasks like chopping down tree tops (like this stack of 2-inch diameter branches, stacked at least 5 feet high).



HD has a M12 Fuel Hackzall kit for $179, comes with a bag, M12 charger and XC4.0 M12 battery, PLUS a CP2.5 M12 battery for free.

They also have the $199 M18 starter kit, 2 XC5.0 M18 batteries with M18/M12 charger, and you get a free tool, which can be a M18 Fuel Hackzall.

(...THE M18 DEAL APPEARS TO BE "SOLD OUT" AT THIS TIME, at least at most stores around here. They list as two line items, but insist you choose the same shipment option, and in-store pickup is the only viable option for the starter kit. Not sure if this is "hackable"...)

Thoughts?

Mike

That's a bigger job than what what I would tackle with my m18 hackzall. If I did that on a regular basis I would get the hatchet pruning saw as the hackzall gets annoying for branches less than 1/2 inch. At a certain point it sometimes just shakes the branch and I start wondering if I should grab the hedge trimmer.

If you do get the hackzall m18 fuel all the way. The stroke and the ergonomics are nice. It is true that my fuel size sawzall is rarely used these days.

Of the two, I would skip the full size sawzall and go with the hackzall. Hard to imagine, but the fuel hackzall really holds its own against the fuel sawzall. Plus it has the versatility of one or two handed use. Haven't tried the super sawzall that being said.

I second this…I am constantly using the hackzall and hardly every use the full sized sawzall at all.

I like the Hackzall too, use it a lot. Gets into tighter spots than the Sawzall.

But, given your "6-10 inch roots" description, I doubt that the Hackzall is up to the task.

I wouldn't want to cut 4x4 lumber with the Hackzall beyond a cut or two.

Pruning stuff that could be done with a hand saw, sure.

Depending on how many "some tree stumps" is, I'd look at the regular Sawzall at a minimum. The Super Sawzall is a beast.

A corded tool might be a better choice if you have power or a small generator. Certainly cheaper if you have to buy a battery Sawzall.

The M18 Sawzall works fine, but you'll need more than one battery.

Look at the stroke length.

The cheap reciprocating saws are only 3/4" and the better ones are 1-1/4".

Makes a huge difference.

And a pruning blade... well, more than one.

Well, after lots of discussion and thinking about it, I decided to pull the trigger on the M18 Fuel Hackzall tonight, before the deal expired.

M18 "starter pack" (2 XC5.0 batteries and a M18/M12 rapid charger) for $199, and the M18 Fuel Hackzall was one of the tools offered for free.

The battery package is the problem. They seem to run out of those before the tools, I'm sure that's intentional.

Had to drive to two stores, each an hour or more from home (but near one another). The HD website said West Roxbury had 9 in stock, couldn’t find any, and the staff was all but useless.

I then ordered from the website, picked the Quincy store. Before I got back to my truck at West Roxbury, my order was picked and waiting for me at Quincy. The site says they have about a dozen of the battery packages left.

Here's the deal, BTW:

Milwaukee M18 18-Volt Lithium-Ion XC Starter Kit with Two 5.0Ah Batteries and Charger 48-59-1852B - The Home Depot

Delivers up to 2.5 X more run-time, 20% more power and 2 X more life than standard lithium-ion batteries. The M18 REDLITHIUM XC 5.0 Extended Capacity Battery Pack features superior pack construction, electronics and performance to deliver more work per charge and more work over the life of the...

www.homedepot.com

Mike

 

[mikeinri]

I just toss a charger or 2 in my tool bag. I suppose you could screw or strap or otherwise affix 4 chargers to a 12x12 board, but all my M18 chargers also do M12 so there is still some wasted space.

Maybe to combine portable battery storage and chargers you could build a little rectangular wood box with chargers mounted sideways on the inside and space down the middle between them for batteries. Some sort of lid or strap to hold the batteries in place.

There is a 2 position M18 fast charger that charges both batteries at the same time.

I currently have 3 of the M18/M12 rapid chargers. I'd prefer to use those and not buy something else.

To be honest, this is going to be used in one place (the garage) more than anywhere else, but I'd prefer to get the chargers more vertical (take up less shelf space), but don't want them screwed to the wall.

Mike

 

[danski0224]

The one I'm referring to does not charge M12 batteries. Single fast charger with 2 M18 positions.

 

[mikeinri]

Yes, I've seen that one. You can get that for free right now at HD, same deal I posted above for the Hackzall (so you'd get another M18/M12 rapid charger with it).

Mike

 

[f121]

When I started down the Milwaukee path, I made a conscious choice that I wanted the best quality brand overall and that I would pay the price.

Festool seems like the obvious choice if you want the best quality overall and decent woodworking tools

 

[pbon]

I currently have 3 of the M18/M12 rapid chargers. I'd prefer to use those and not buy something else.

To be honest, this is going to be used in one place (the garage) more than anywhere else, but I'd prefer to get the chargers more vertical (take up less shelf space), but don't want them screwed to the wall.

Mike

Mount the chargers to a board and attach the board to the wall with some kind of quick release. Zip tie the cords together and plug them into a triple tap outlet expander. Take the whole thing with you if needed. I have 3 chargers plugged in in my garage but also several more I can toss in a bag and have brought more than 2 with me only once. I am
Just a DIYer.

 

[mikeinri]

Thanks, @pbon. I am also a homeowner / DIY guy (not trying to make a living with this).

Wall space is a shrinking premium here, but I do have an old electric cabinet that might work (not sure that it's deep enough).

I'm really liking the Packout ideas, I may go down that road.

Mike

 

[71goldss]

Mount the chargers to a board and attach the board to the wall

I’ve got the same setup. Works great!

 

[subroc]

A couple simple questions that I am sure have been discussed here.

Milwaukee m12 ratchets.
1/4"
2456-20
0-30 ft-lbs

3/8"
2457-20
0-35 ft-lbs

Can either or both be changed to the other by changing the anvil? Can the 3/8" be converted to the 1/4" by changing the anvil assembly? If they can does the slight difference in ft-lbs matter?

 

[67CarGuy]

anyone have the Milwaukee M12 FUEL 12 V 3/8 in. Brushless Cordless 4-in-1 Installation Driver Kit? Anything good or bad to note about it/

Wonder if Mil will come out with a M18 version?

I recently picked up the 4-in-1 and really like it so far. I anticipate using it for some upcoming cabinet installations, but I'm always on the lookout for other projects...

Honestly, I'd be concerned that an M18 version would be too big / bulky. One of the M12's selling points for me was it's smaller size, it can more easily fit into tight spaces and it doesn't weigh as much as my M18 tools.

 

[67CarGuy]

Anyone have experience(s) with the M18 string trimmer / pole saw / hedge trimmer setup? I'm looking for something to replace my corded string trimmer, and being able to switch out tool heads seems like a great option. I'm trying to compare the M18 tools to the Ryobi 40V, as I already have tools and batteries for each.

 

[Odd-job]

Anyone have experience(s) with the M18 string trimmer / pole saw / hedge trimmer setup? I'm looking for something to replace my corded string trimmer, and being able to switch out tool heads seems like a great option. I'm trying to compare the M18 tools to the Ryobi 40V, as I already have tools and batteries for each.

While I am very satisfied with my M18 quick-lok stuff, I would actually be hard pressed to invest if I was already invested in Ryobi 40v. This is hard to admit as a Milwaukee addict. The accessories are more reasonably priced IMHO plus they have things like a snow thrower and cultivator on the Ryobi platform that I wish Milwaukee had.

 

[Odd-job]

A couple simple questions that I am sure have been discussed here.

Milwaukee m12 ratchets.
1/4"
2456-20
0-30 ft-lbs

3/8"
2457-20
0-35 ft-lbs

Can either or both be changed to the other by changing the anvil? Can the 3/8" be converted to the 1/4" by changing the anvil assembly? If they can does the slight difference in ft-lbs matter?

I believe they are interchangeable given they use the same heads on the gen 1 brushed ratchets. Was contemplating this on my 3/8 at one point, but then gave up and got a 1/4 extended fuel ratchet.

 

[67CarGuy]

While I am very satisfied with my M18 quick-lok stuff, I would actually be hard pressed to invest if I was already invested in Ryobi 40v. This is hard to admit as a Milwaukee addict. The accessories are more reasonably priced IMHO plus they have things like a snow thrower and cultivator on the Ryobi platform that I wish Milwaukee had.

Appreciate the info, @Odd-job . I do have the Ryobi 40V lawn mower, but I know my new place will need something bigger (going from about 500 sq ft of lawn to 1-2 acres), and I'm ready to have my mower walk me around, rather than me push it everywhere.

 

[pwschuh]

Went off-roading over the Christmas break and threw the M18 Hatchet in the back of the truck to clear fallen branches off the trail. Only needed it once and it worked great. Still haven't had a chance to use it around the yard but it seems like it will be up for anything I would need. I have the M18 pole saw for the high stuff but was getting tired of try to wield it closer to the ground.

 

[Rusty67]

Went off-roading over the Christmas break and threw the M18 Hatchet in the back of the truck to clear fallen branches off the trail. Only needed it once and it worked great. Still haven't had a chance to use it around the yard but it seems like it will be up for anything I would need. I have the M18 pole saw for the high stuff but was getting tired of try to wield it closer to the ground.

I was considering buying one for when I go off roading with my motorcycle. I was wondering how the M12 would do on trails. I'm not very experienced off road and I'd rather cut a notch in something than try to wheelie over it. Over time that might change but right now I'm too much of an offroad novice for any cool tricks to get by obstacles that my suspension won't handle. I was wondering if I could rig the M12 to charge off my bike since the thing is a 12V system. With the M18, I'd need an inverter to charge it.

 

[assassin10000]

I was considering buying one for when I go off roading with my motorcycle. I was wondering how the M12 would do on trails. I'm not very experienced off road and I'd rather cut a notch in something than try to wheelie over it. Over time that might change but right now I'm too much of an offroad novice for any cool tricks to get by obstacles that my suspension won't handle. I was wondering if I could rig the M12 to charge off my bike since the thing is a 12V system. With the M18, I'd need an inverter to charge it.

Wire a power port socket, plug in a usb charger with the power source that has the option to charge m12 batteries.

 

[gearhead1960]

Anyone have experience(s) with the M18 string trimmer / pole saw / hedge trimmer setup? I'm looking for something to replace my corded string trimmer, and being able to switch out tool heads seems like a great option. I'm trying to compare the M18 tools to the Ryobi 40V, as I already have tools and batteries for each.

I acquired the M18 string trimmer this year. It is part of the switchable system. I found it to work very well, although I use it as an edger which you're not supposed to do. Just make sure to wear eye protection as the shield is not wide enough to block some of the thrown debris. It is heavier than I expected, but only use it for a short time, so that's not an issue. If I used it for a prolonged time, would definitely spring for the neck strap. As far as power and ability to cut, great trimmer. Feeds string very well as long as you don't overstuff the string.

 

[Odd-job]

Appreciate the info, @Odd-job . I do have the Ryobi 40V lawn mower, but I know my new place will need something bigger (going from about 500 sq ft of lawn to 1-2 acres), and I'm ready to have my mower walk me around, rather than me push it everywhere.

Sounds like you might be going for an 80v platform soon enough. With that much property if you have a horde of m18 batteries vs Ryobi 40v batteries I could see the justification for the m18 especially if you consider things like weight. Looks like Ryobi has some nicer features like a carbon fiber shaft to reduce weight. This being said it probably makes it just as expensive as Milwaukee.

 

[Rusty67]

Wire a power port socket, plug in a usb charger with the power source that has the option to charge m12 batteries.

That is probably the easiest solution. Now the question is, will the M12 hatchet be good enough for what I want to use it for?

 

[Rusty67]

I have a question about my SDS plus hammer drill. Is it normal for molly grease to come out of the chuck? I was pushing my SDS much harder than I have in the past and the nose got relatively hot. When I pull my SDS bits out, the shank has had black grease on it that looks and feels like molly, I'm assuming this is normal because the grease in the assembly got hot and is just oozing out? Is there an "oil change" interval on these tools?

 

[mobiledynamics]

Not normal although one usually may put a little grease on the bit.

When drills, etc are not used for awhile....the grease does separate in it . You may be seeing this and just time to open her up and put some fresh grease

 

[Odd-job]

M18 transfer pump goodwill warranty replacement came. Less than 3 week turnaround to and from Greenwood, MS from the west coast.

Think I am going to go with eservice going forward lot easier than trying run back and forth from the service center in Hayward.

 

[f575gtc]

Anyone have any details on the tool only 1/4 and 3/8 inch extended high speed ratchets? They were originally slated for November, got delayed until December now some sites say January. It seems like the battery combo version might already be out on some stores but it is an extra $100 for a basic 2.0Ah battery and charger.

Home depot still shows them out of stock for all versions.

 

[subarub4]

I'm back! ok so I need a M18 work light just need it work work in a small garage space not too sure on what to get.

 

[Rusty67]

Does it have to be m18 or are you good with m12 as well?

 

[subarub4]

Does it have to be m18 or are you good with m12 as well?

M18 as I have 4 batteries

 

[Badger 13]

I have had the Milwaukee M18 "Stick light" for several years. It is one of the best Milwaukee invests I made. I also have a "Rover" light, but the stick light gets used almost daily.

 

[subarub4]

I have had the Milwaukee M18 "Stick light" for several years. It is one of the best Milwaukee invests I made. I also have a "Rover" light, but the stick light gets used almost daily.

I used to have the M12 version of that

 

[jonshonda]

I have been doing some projects around the house that would benefit from something like the M18 tower light. Is it still the consensus that it is superior to the m12?

 

[mobiledynamics]

Used extreme super sparingly , but when you need it and it's around. Used my M12 ProPress crimper. Love it !

 

[pbon]

I have been doing some projects around the house that would benefit from something like the M18 on a stand. Is it still the consensus that it is superior to the m12?

I have 2 M18 tower lights and they are great and offer loads of light and extend up to over 6’ to light up a large area. While they do fold up compactly they are still 4’ tall and 10 lbs. The little M12 tower light is fantastic as a combination of light and portability at under 3’ folded and just a few lbs., but it extends to only about 5’ tall and has a small head. I am reaching for the M12 more.

 

[Rusty67]

I think the thing about the M18 vs the M12 was that the M18 has a single head and the M12 has 3 heads. I've heard that the multiple heads cause odd shadows vs the the single head on the M18. I have no personal experience with that however. I do love my M18 tower light though.

Side note, I got paint on the face of M18 tower light, what is the safe way to clean it without totally screwing up the plastic? If it was glass, I'd just use some acetone on it but I have a feeling that would ruin the clear plastic cover.

 

[assassin10000]

I think the thing about the M18 vs the M12 was that the M18 has a single head and the M12 has 3 heads. I've heard that the multiple heads cause odd shadows vs the the single head on the M18. I have no personal experience with that however. I do love my M18 tower light though.

Side note, I got paint on the face of M18 tower light, what is the safe way to clean it without totally screwing up the plastic? If it was glass, I'd just use some acetone on it but I have a feeling that would ruin the clear plastic cover.

Depends on the plastic and what paint is on it.

You could try mineral spirits or maybe rubbing alcohol? The rubbing alcohol seems ok on my m12 batteries, where brake clean just eats into them.

 

[boom_bap]

Try a tub-o-towel wipe maybe?

 

[Fix Until Broke]

I think the thing about the M18 vs the M12 was that the M18 has a single head and the M12 has 3 heads. I've heard that the multiple heads cause odd shadows vs the the single head on the M18. I have no personal experience with that however. I do love my M18 tower light though.

Side note, I got paint on the face of M18 tower light, what is the safe way to clean it without totally screwing up the plastic? If it was glass, I'd just use some acetone on it but I have a feeling that would ruin the clear plastic cover.

Straight razor blade. Hold it relatively flat to the surface and push it across (carefully).

 

[david3921]

I think the thing about the M18 vs the M12 was that the M18 has a single head and the M12 has 3 heads. I've heard that the multiple heads cause odd shadows vs the the single head on the M18. I have no personal experience with that however. I do love my M18 tower light though.

Side note, I got paint on the face of M18 tower light, what is the safe way to clean it without totally screwing up the plastic? If it was glass, I'd just use some acetone on it but I have a feeling that would ruin the clear plastic cover.

Try WD40.