the neighbors Pole Barn....

[nate379]

I was thinking the same. Here Fall already has come and gone and there are almost no leaves in the trees.

Looks to be an interesting project to follow here. Everything sure is green there.
I have not seen any measured rain since May.

 

[hick]

By the way, the housemovers association is the International Association of Structural Movers. Take a look at the site and their magazine (everybody has to have a magazine) to get an idea of what can be moved. There are some interesting things on YouTube on how not to do it (and well as how to do it).

http://www.iasm.org/about.htm

Bookman

Wow, how much for a year. That'd be AWESOME coffee table reading material

 

[bookman51]

I do not know the cost. It might be limited to members of the Association, but here is the e-mail for the editor if you are serious.

[email protected]

Bookman

 

[Bobby31007]

Since I am waiting on the cement to dry, I have decided to show some pictures of the project I had at the beginning of this year. Last Fall a coworker came to me and told me she wanted to get rid of her Kayak pool. The pool was bought new in 1990 and had been in the same spot for 18 years. She had informed me that if I wanted the pool I could have it but I had to take everything and leave nothing. The deck that extended out 8 foot on one side was rotted and needed to be replaced. But the liner, pump, filter, and hoses were in good shape for the most part. I had never seen a pool like this one. The reason I say this is the the whole struct was made of wood. You will see in the pictures that even the walls of the pool are 4x8 sheets of plywood. There are 8 C-channels holding the pool together. Qty. 4 12' c-channels and qty. 4 24' c-channels. I did not take pictures of the pool at the gals house but it was setup just like you would see a pool in someones backyard. We transported it by taking the sheets apart in 8 foot sections and driving each peice by itself. She only lived about 2 miles from my house so I didnt mind making a few trips...

Has anyone else seen a pool like this before??

 

[Bobby31007]

I have run the wire from my 200 amp service in the attached garage to the cement pad that has been poured as well as extended the driveway... I had to run the wire first and then put driveway in over the buried wire...

 

[Bobby31007]

It's day one of the move... My Dad, Dad's Neighbor, Step-Dad, Neighbor (Grandpa) and Father-in-Law are all helping to get the job done.... I have alot of pictures so I will post a couple at a time....

These first pictures are of the Semi, Skid loader and taking the Gable end apart so that the Semi can back into the building.

we have also started cutting the poles in the ground and raising a little bit to put block in place of the poles. (Jacking it up)

 

[Bobby31007]

Once the building is raised about 18 inches, we brought 4 C-channels in the building and layed them on the trailer. From there we lagged them to the 4x6 post.

 

[wrigh003]

Never seen a square or rectangular above ground pool before. Neat.

Looks like you're moving right along. For $750, that's a pretty swingin' deal on a materials kit for a 24x48 building. Yeah, labor costs would be more to disassemble then reassemble if you paid somebody, but I think if it's close by, I might consider just buying posts to match what's there, then taking it down from the neighbor's place and moving it to mine one piece/ section at a time. Pull down the tin, stack it up, pull down the purlins, stack them up (or use them to help brace your new poles), take the trusses, move them, put tin back on. Sure, it'd take a while, but you could do 99% of that on your own schedule, and then you'd have a big ol' shop for not near as much as otherwise.

Just another thought. You'd definitely need some good friends/ help and a big trailer to move the trusses intact, but it could be done...

Edit: didn't realize you were doing a "this is what I already did" thread.

 

[Todd.Brock]

Isnt it some kind of violation to lay pipe in a speedo?

 

[Bobby31007]

Now the building is ready to be moved, like I said we have to go about 400 ft to the cement pad and the only real obstacle is the powerlines. You will see in the pictures how we did...

I will post pictures of the semi on driving on the cement slab next.

 

[Bobby31007]

Actually, the beginning of this thread was to see for myself how many people thought that it could or couldnt be done. The people that I talked to about this (Before the actual move said it was not possible). I actually have the building moved and have been working on it for a month now. Cement was actually poured in early August and Building moved in September. Sorry for the confusion...

 

[Bobby31007]

As for the speedo thing. This is my Father in-law and he is from Europe.. I came home from work one day and he was working in them.... I guess it is a normal thing over there... Anyways, as much work as he did for me, He could of been naked and I wouldn't of said too much about it.. He is a very hard worker and a great Father in-law.

 

[Bobby31007]

We have made it to the slab and in 1 piece. In the pictures you will see the neighbors checking things out. (some of the people that said it could not be done) anyways, it took about 45 minutes to get it straight on the slab. Next I will show how we lowered the building down.

 

[cyclopsblown34]

Awesome!!!!!! not enough characters

 

[Bobby31007]

Building being lowered by the skid loader and blocks being take out (1 at a time). In the pictures you see how the skid loader picks up part of the building enough for us to take out a block of wood. I would definately not be able to drive a skid loader or semi like my dad's good neighbor friend. "Thanks again Don for all of your help".

We put a 2x6 treated all the way around the building floor (this is actually what the 4x6 post sit on) and the outer board is laying on the side of the cement about 1.5 inches down. We put sill seal in between and lagged the Post to the cement. Anchor bolts were used in the cement.

 

[Bobby31007]

So it took 2 days to Jack the building up, move it, and then set it down. These pictures are of loading the semi up with skid loader and steel beams that we used....

 

[Bobby31007]

Now that the building is in place, I have decided to only have one sliding door, which will be on the left, in the middle will be a 16 overhead door, and the last 16' I am going to make a room that will be heated and A/C'd most of the time. I would like to heat the whole thing but don't want to have a bigger bill for the Barn than I do for the house. LOL

The exterior door will be on the right side going into the room, which I will call my "Man Cave" for now. I will show pictures of the interior wall next. (Separates the Garage from the Man cave...) There are french doors and a window in the wall that separates the two areas. I am also putting a loft in the Man cave, not sure why but my wife wanted one so its in there.

 

[Bobby31007]

The pictures now are when we hooked up the 100 amp box in the Barn and ran 1 recept (so we are not running extension cords from the house) and 6 ceiling lights. None of the lights are permanant, just put them up so I can work on the building at night...

We were also able to put in the exterior door I was talking about along with the 16'x7' garage door. See pictures...

 

[Bobby31007]

more pictures....

 

[dipper]

Great job and great shop you have now. Not bad considering you into it for around 9k-10k or so going by what you quoted between the concrete and the building.

I like the fact you were posting after it was already moved, quieting down the naysayers. Houses's are moved or jacked up all the time. All it takes is a lot of ingenuity and patience.

Looks like you are going to have a great place to work and play.

 

[wrigh003]

I'm liking your interior office/finished space doors and the exterior door with sidelights. A little different than what you usually see, but cool.

 

[rieferman]

I'm so impressed with the moving of the building, nothing will surprise me about the rest of the project (which looks like it's going to turn out to be a very functional spot!)

nicely done

 

[bookman51]

Bobby, Yep, you had the right idea regard attaching the channel iron to the poles and then beams across the trailer of the truck. As long as it is balanced you would be okay. I was a little concerned about lifting any one part too fast, but looks like you did just fine. Forty-five minutes to set it down is not bad. At that point you are working with fractions of inches. Looks good. You got yourself a relatively cheap pole barn, along with some good pictures and good stories to tell. I like overhead doors better than sliding ones. They seal up better and you are not moving snow to get them open. Good job and thanks for sharing the pictures. You ready to go into pole barn moving business!!

Bookman

 

[Todd.Brock]

I was just joking about the speedos! Hell of a move! I would have ended up taking it down and having a pile of bolts and boards left over.. That is going to a great space. Todd

 

[babzog]

Well, I stand corrected. I didn't think this would have worked, but it's worked out beautifully. Well done!

Sneaky of ya too, to "trick" us like that.

 

[Motown 454]

Nice smooth move. it looks good,you'll have a nice shop.

 

[tdkkart]

I am also putting a loft in the Man cave, not sure why but my wife wanted one so its in there.

The loft is so she can store her Christmas **** in the shop, in fact it's already sneaking in, if you look at the pan on top of the 5 gallon bucket in picture #2 you'll see a Santa hat. Don't let it happen or you've lost control!!!

 

[Chateau Slate 66]

His asking price is a little cheaper than if I was to construct a new building

He is asking $750.00 for the building. I am still trying to get pricing for a new structure of this size. seems that material alone is $6,000 to $7,000 dollars.

Congrats on the move. Everything obviously worked out well. Depending on which of your previous statements were correct, you either made a great deal for yourself or went through a lot of work to only save a few bucks on a older building. I wouldn't call getting the building for 1/10th of the cost of materials alone "a little cheaper than if I was to construct a new building", so which was it?

 

[MalibuLX3]

I am also putting a loft in the Man cave, not sure why but my wife wanted one so its in there.

I can't possibly be the only one who noticed this...can I? It seems like these two things just don't go together, "Man cave" and "Wife"

Maybe since it's above the man cave that makes it acceptable

EDIT: Just saw the post above, it guess it's not tooooo bad then...still don't know

 

[Brayden]

Suggestion......how high is the ceiling?????? Rent 2 big scissor lifts or 3 or 4......Strategically place them inside the building under the trusses....cut the support poles at ground level......you and your buddies now "in unison", lift the barn up enough to clear the ground and drive it to where you want to place it......now lift the barn higher.....extend the support poles to desired length..... lower it to position

p.s. don't tell the neighbor this or he will think it is too easy and want to charge you more for the barn.

You'd be suprised how light that barn is.. We have barn jacks (screw jacks) that will lift an old barn up with half a mow (mough) sp? full of hay.

 

[checkthisout]

Actually, the beginning of this thread was to see for myself how many people thought that it could or couldnt be done. The people that I talked to about this (Before the actual move said it was not possible). I actually have the building moved and have been working on it for a month now. Cement was actually poured in early August and Building moved in September. Sorry for the confusion...

LOL

The way you posed your question was from the point of someone who had no clue.

None of us had any idea that you had access to a semi-truck, huge metal beams etc etc.............

As humans, our responses are modified based on how we percieve the person we are responding to.

You did/are doing a great job! And I enjoyed the little "trick" you played on us.

 

[Nighttrain]

I am building a office and room also inside a metal building. I noticed that you have not installed any jack studs under your door header or window headers. ANy concern with the weight above? Your move was awsome. Years back I bought a 8'x10' shed and moved it about six miles and thought that was a big deal. Enjoy the garage.

 

[Bobby31007]

The loft is so she can store her Christmas **** in the shop, in fact it's already sneaking in, if you look at the pan on top of the 5 gallon bucket in picture #2 you'll see a Santa hat. Don't let it happen or you've lost control!!!

That is actually a funnel for the Hydraulic fluid that goes in the skid loader, But yes my wife has already mentioned putting Holiday "stuff" above the mancave. LOL

 

[Bobby31007]

Congrats on the move. Everything obviously worked out well. Depending on which of your previous statements were correct, you either made a great deal for yourself or went through a lot of work to only save a few bucks on a older building. I wouldn't call getting the building for 1/10th of the cost of materials alone "a little cheaper than if I was to construct a new building", so which was it?

Chateau, I probably shouldn't of said a little cheaper..... I knew if the building was to fall that I could probably turn metal in and get $750 out of it... Anyways, I paid $750 for the building.... $7,300 for concrete (this is from excavating to finished product)..... I have a whole slew of receipts from menards that I have not added up yet. I probably have over $2,000 dollars in receipts (my guess). Everytime I go to Menards I end up spending more money than I had planned so we will see.... Also, the Garage Door, Exterior Door, Interior French door, and window were all given to me from freinds and family

So to answer your question. 1/10 of $6,000 or $7,000 is $600 or $700 dollars.... If the building would of been given to me, I would of said alot cheaper... Its up to whoever reads this to distinguish the size of the deal that I got.... Your call. Again sorry for any confusion.

 

[hidollartoys]

Great Job Bobby. Excellent "thinking outside the box". Glad you did not give in to the "can't be done" mind set of some. I have seen this type of move done several times and has always worked. I have seen them moved on farm wagons with tractors. I have even seen them moved and raised to gain greater height. Your approach was dead on and well thought out. I would say that you saved the equivlent of the cost of the walls and roof structure. CONGRATS!!!!!!

 

[bookman51]

Bobby, If you got $10,000 into the building (concrete slab, cost of building, moving, lumber, doors, etc.), then you got a $25,000-$30,000 building for $10,000. Not bad. Of course, all your "help" will want help from you for any project they have for the next twenty years. So, pay back might be....well, expensive. You got a nice building at a reasonable price. Enjoy.

Bookman

 

[Kevin54]

Actually, the beginning of this thread was to see for myself how many people thought that it could or couldnt be done. The people that I talked to about this (Before the actual move said it was not possible). I actually have the building moved and have been working on it for a month now. Cement was actually poured in early August and Building moved in September. Sorry for the confusion...

For the 'self satisfaction" I'm glad to see I wasn't too far off on how to do it

As for what you have now, you have something to be proud of AND something to talk about years down the road. Great job on all of it and glad to hear it went as smooth as it did. Make sure you keep us posted with the updates. Great job

 

[PetesPonies]

Thats a steal of a building for $10K !! Congrats on the success.

 

[ebstein]

How are you heating it?

 

[mrb]

I looked at the picture of your subpanel, it appears as though there are only three conductors coming out of that conduit. You need four. You also needed to have bonded the rebar in the slab (called a UFER ground).