The "pedestrian" garage

[tinbender 66]

Its okay, I'll make one out of wood.

Metal rules

 

[Red Leader]

Metal rules

No it doesn't! Oh wait...

metal swords > wood swords

metal guns > wood guns

cast iron power tools > plywood power tools

metal cars > wooden cars

metal coffee table < wood coffee table



See! We at least got one thing on you metal guys!!!

 

[Red Leader]

Tinbender...between you and Dave Red Leader I am not the same...I no longer want a bosch...I want some more high quality American Vintage Steel! Now my Grandpa and Dad were farmers so we never really had any woodworking tools around so I honestly never knew about this stuff. I knew about what great tractors we had that were made during that period, the great cars, knew about the great airplanes (GO NAVIONS!) but never considered the tools...a big thanks to you and Dave for bringing a little light into my power tool darkness!

Shaun

Good brands worthy of consideration:

Walker-Turner (old tool guys go crazy over this brand, so be careful lol)
Delta
Atlas
some Craftsman (pre-1960)
old school Dewalt (pre-1960)

There are others I just cannot think of off the top of my head right now.

Stepping it up, these are the big boys and create some serious awesome industrial woodworking machinery:

Oliver
Tannewitz
Powermatic (older)
Crescent
Wadkin
J.A. Fay and Egan
Northfield (table saws)
Yates American

If you see any of the above branded tools at $200 or less, buy instantly, even if 3-phase.

Difference btw hobby tool and industrial tool:

Powr Kraft table saw

Gorgeous Tannewitz table saw

The hobby type saws definitely have a place - when shop space is tight, the electrical system you have may not run 3-phase or have 220v, a smaller saw may even be better. But the bigger saws can be cool tool - super stable, accurate and powerful, glass like cuts. I say buy both

 

[tinbender 66]

Yeah, but............If you had a good stout metal coffee table you could hide behind it with your metal gun and lead bullets when the home invasion guys come over

 

[tinbender 66]

Saw a Unisaw on the local CL today for $175 with a motor the they say needs bearings.

 

[tinbender 66]

I'd like to have that Tannewitz just to sit and stare at.

 

[shopnut]

Gorgeous Tannewitz table saw

Double miter gauges?

That thing it beautiful! Makes me want one just to put on display somewhere.

 

[Red Leader]

Saw a Unisaw on the local CL today for $175 with a motor the they say needs bearings.

Four footed (four points touching the floor) or solid base? Cover over the motor?

3-phase?

If it is not 3 phase, buy it.

If it is a four-footer, buy it.

If it has a goose egg motor cover, BUY IT! You can sell the motor cover and have a free saw.

Actually, no matter what, you should buy it. Then we can be Unisaw brethren

Did you call on it? If not it might be gone at this point. Any original accessories?

 

[Red Leader]

Saw a Unisaw on the local CL today for $175 with a motor the they say needs bearings.

Actually, you probably already know this but motor bearings are cake. no problemo.

 

[tinbender 66]

I saw it this morning, then we had the BIL and SIL show up and I forgot about it. The base was enclosed. It's gone now. There's another one on there now but he wants $500. A "little" high methinks.

 

[Red Leader]

Double miter gauges?

That thing it beautiful! Makes me want one just to put on display somewhere.

Shopnut, it doesn't get any better...

 

[tinbender 66]

I've been doing a little work on the garage bathroom. Decided to do a little differently as far as color. The "indent" in the far wall is to accomodate the crapper. The divot in the floor is where the toilet base should have been so I had to turn the thing 90° from the original plan.

I'm redoing an old metal medicine cabinet that's been hanging in our pantry for years.

Geez, all I need now is a septic tank and a drainfield.

My wife scored me the perfect coffee cup at a garage sale the other day. Feng shui

 

[shopnut]

Geez, all I need now is a septic tank and a drainfield.

Sign is funny, but if there is no septic system (or toilet) - they really don't have a choice yet

Oh and from the post above - RL, those saws look great! Can I cut metal with them?

 

[tinbender 66]

My wife put that sign up when our boys were kids. It couldn't have been for me

 

[tinbender 66]

I finally got started on the jointer 'cuz the table saw looks lonely on that stand by itself. I picked up a 5" pulley for the table saw end of the motor today. It's aluminum, so of course I had to polish it. As soon as I can get down to Everett (about 30 miles so.) I'm going to give HF's version of the link belt a try. At $25 it's a lot cheaper than a Power Twist. $20 with a coupon. I think I'll pick up a cheap carbide combo blade while I'm there. Might as well see how it works before I buy top-of-the-line stuff.

Jointer:

It took a while to figure out how it came apart but in the end it's a pretty simple machine.

Here's all the tools it took plus my Dewalt grinder w/cup brush and a 25 year old Milwaukee with a worn out ScotchBrite pad. It's a great old grinder but with a ½" arbor it's hard to find accessories for. My flat wire brush was down to about 10 "hairs" so I just picked up a new one today.

The ScotchBrite pads I have to get at a local welding supply. Local hw store, HD, Lowes have no idea what they are.

The outfeed table on the left is about as good as it gets without removing too much material. It could look a little better but it's nice and smooth. It looked just like the infeed table when I started. As for the knives, I'm going to see if I can whet them in place as per the original manual. I really don't want to take them out of the holder. If I can't do it my way then I'll have to find someone to do it for me.

 

[rickairmedic]

Paul if the jointer comes out half as nice as the table saw thats going to be one good looking machine .

Rick

 

[tinbender 66]

Thanks Rick, hopefully I can do it justice. I should be lighting the table off saw next week. Fingers crossed.

I'm dyin' to get going on that old band saw! I'm gonna "gear" it down for cutting metal. RL should like that!

 

[rickairmedic]

Paul make sure you document the bandsaw rebuild especially the gearing . I see them all the time cheap but havent picked one up yet due to not being into wood .

Rick

 

[TWX]

The posts are 12 ft o.c. with two trusses at each. This is legal for the required roof load. The trade off is I can't put a ceiling across the bottom as they are not to designed to carry a bottom load.

I found this thread late..

There is a way to attach a ceiling actually. Use a commercial building style drop-ceiling and run the suspension wires for the frame all of the way up to the top lumber of each truss. First, the ceiling would be fairly light weight. Second, what weight there is would be suspended from the load-bearing portions of the truss. Third, you could even leave the lower beams on the truss exposed if you wanted, and place the drop ceiling above them, should such an aesthetic appeal to you.

 

[tinbender 66]

Paul make sure you document the bandsaw rebuild especially the gearing . I see them all the time cheap but havent picked one up yet due to not being into wood .

Rick

I'll try and remember to do a step by step documentation. If I remember to take pics.

I asked about slowing it down on OWWM and a guy posted pics of how he did it. Two sets of pulleys and a jack shaft. He said it needs to be about 40:1.

 

[tinbender 66]

I found this thread late..

There is a way to attach a ceiling actually. Use a commercial building style drop-ceiling and run the suspension wires for the frame all of the way up to the top lumber of each truss. First, the ceiling would be fairly light weight. Second, what weight there is would be suspended from the load-bearing portions of the truss. Third, you could even leave the lower beams on the truss exposed if you wanted, and place the drop ceiling above them, should such an aesthetic appeal to you.

Thanks TWX. Actually, I have considered that already. The more I've thought about it, I think I like the feeling of "space" with the open ceiling. I've got a fan at the peak in the three working bays so hopefully I can keep the heat down where it belongs (IF I ever get a heater). My BIL has a propane unit heater that he might not use. Here's hoping.

 

[tinbender 66]

I got the table saw running yesterday.

Full tilt:

Harbor Freight belt and Ace hardware pulley:

HF blade:

Moment of truth:

It runs!!!

First cut:

Not bad:

RRRRRRip:

It worked great until the motor started making noise. It ran nice and quiet without a load. I had hoped it would run nice under a load too. I'm sure it's bearing noise so it shouldn't be much trouble to fix it.

 

[mdbeck1]

Looking good. I have one just like it and it works better than the "tabletop" saw that I got years ago. I guess that I really should take it apart and clean it up good. Maybe this winter or next spring?

 

[Red Leader]

Paul,

Looks great! And cuts nice, too!

I bet new bearings for the motor would work wonders. Also, if you ever get a chance to throw a Forrest blade on that sucker, I'm betting it would cut like a total dream.

Nice saw. And great resto.

RL

 

[Red Leader]

Looking good. I have one just like it and it works better than the "tabletop" saw that I got years ago. I guess that I really should take it apart and clean it up good. Maybe this winter or next spring?

mdbeck,

pictures pictures pictures!!!

 

[rickairmedic]

Awesome I agree a couple of bearings and that saw will be better than new it already looks better .


Rick

 

[shopnut]

It's great to see that saw doing its job. Hopefully the motor noise it no big deal.

I'm curious as to how that multi-link V-belt worked out. We have some equipment at work that requires major disassembly to replace the belts. Something like that could be perfect if they hold up well.

 

[tinbender 66]

Looking good. I have one just like it and it works better than the "tabletop" saw that I got years ago. I guess that I really should take it apart and clean it up good. Maybe this winter or next spring?

Thanks md.Yeah, spiff it up a bit. I've been using an 8" Makita for over 20 years and it's a great little saw, but it's plastic, ya know?

Paul,

Looks great! And cuts nice, too!

I bet new bearings for the motor would work wonders. Also, if you ever get a chance to throw a Forrest blade on that sucker, I'm betting it would cut like a total dream.



Nice saw. And great resto.

RL

Thanks Dave. I'll get the motor apart shortly. I'm ready for a "sit on a stool and tinker" project. I read the sticky at OWWM about ordering bearings. Can't wait. My little Makita screams. This thing just kinda hums a bit.

Awesome I agree a couple of bearings and that saw will be better than new it already looks better .


Rick

Thaks Rick, it's been a fun project. Still got the jointer and bandsaw to do. Good winter projects.

It's great to see that saw doing its job. Hopefully the motor noise it no big deal.

I'm curious as to how that multi-link V-belt worked out. We have some equipment at work that requires major disassembly to replace the belts. Something like that could be perfect if they hold up well.

Thanks shopnut, they just don't make 'em like they used to. Or maybe they do but would cost a fortune.

We'll see how that belt does. I've heard good things about the Power twist ones. The one I got was HF. $20 with a coupon. The real deal is about $9 a foot.

 

[Wingnut65]

Congrats, Paul. It's great to wrap up a project and start to use it.

I love the action shot showing the resurrection of a vintage power tool.

 

[flybefree]

Good work...I have been prowling CL and auctions looking to get into the vintage tool "game' thanks to you and RL!

Shaun

 

[tinbender 66]

Congrats, Paul. It's great to wrap up a project and start to use it.

I love the action shot showing the resurrection of a vintage power tool.

Thanks Jeff........It's not quite wrapped up yet. It was but I had to unwrap it for motor bearings. Got it apart today. Gotta beg, borrow or buy a puller to get the bearings off. I have a few different pullers but, of course, nothing that will work here

 

[tinbender 66]

Good work...I have been prowling CL and auctions looking to get into the vintage tool "game' thanks to you and RL!

Shaun

Thanks! Glad I could be of help on the vintage tool addiction

 

[tinbender 66]

I got a little more done over the last few days. I worked and didn't clean up for 3 days so last night I spent a couple hours straightening the place up. Felt so good I didn't do anything today except take the saw motor apart. Nice to keep it clean for a day once in a while.

I tried out my door bell button for a garage door opener idea. Works good, looks a lot better than those standard beige things. You can see I made no attempt at getting the boards to line up all the way around. They varied in width by 5/16ths so I didn't worry about it. Rustic ya know

I finally put some trim around the workbench. You can see the disassembled table saw motor on it. Gotta get a puller to get those bearings off.

And. I started building a "parapet" wall around my over-the-office storage area.

 

[Wingnut65]

That looks great. The wood makes it look rustic and those buttons are perfect. You may have just started something with this picture.

For the bearing puller, maybe CL has a vintage 'vintage bearing puller' that would fit on vintage CL power tools!

 

[flybefree]

Looks great....you know, I never noticed how ugly those OEM switches are...now I will have to replace mine too!

Shaun

 

[tinbender 66]

That looks great. The wood makes it look rustic and those buttons area perfect. You may have just started something with this picture.



For the bearing puller, maybe CL has a vintage 'vintage bearing puller' that would fit on vintage CL power tools!

Thanks, I splurged on those buttons. $2.79 each @Ace.

Yeah, that's what I need some vintage tools too.

Looks great....you know, I never noticed how ugly those OEM switches are...now I will have to replace mine too!

Shaun

PLUS, the ugly ones cost more too.

 

[tinbender 66]

I finished up my parapet wall today, put some sheeting down and voila, I have some storage.

Made a door:

View from the aerie. I might have to put a chair in the corner so I can hang out up here

It gives me about 160 sq. ft. of storage. AND, you can stand up in about half of it.

Just for fun:

 

[Nighttrain]

Adding character to that garage every day. Looking really good!

 

[Red Leader]

Wow Paul I am very impressed with how that is turning out. One small step adds up over time and that looks fantastic. Great job

 

[dave67fd]

Looks like a nice little spot to take a snooze or just a little hideaway. Are you planning on anything other than ladder access?