The "pedestrian" garage

[tinbender 66]

I'm pretty new here. I came to look at the "1930's garage resto" (awesome thread btw) after seeing the article in Car Craft. Now I'm stuck here. There's a line in an old Pink Floyd song that goes "There's no way out of here, when you come in, you're in for good". That describes GJ pretty well lol.
I call my build "pederstrian" because it's pretty basic. Basically it's an ag building disguised as a garage. And, I started this almost 7 years ago. It's all been "out of pocket" and being in construction (commercial architectural sheet metal) sometimes my pockets ain't so deep! Anyway, on to the job.

This shot just show the driveway coming into my house. I just show this because the guy that did the work made me trim a lot of branches on the right side so they wouldn't scratch his dump trucks! He does have some VERY nice trucks though

This giant tree had to go sadly. I didn't feel comfortable with this one so I had this guy fall it for me. He did it perfectly! Fifty bucks.

I had a local excavator do the work. He added 40 tons of sand to bring it up to grade, put in the driveway to it, regravelled the driveway you just saw and the parking area you just saw. He came over and guesstimated it at 3K. After he did it he sent me a bill and it was only $2100. Honest guy.

New driveway

Pad for building

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More in little while. Comments and criticisms welcome.

Paul

PS: It's 48 x 24

 

[JC23]

Lookin' good so far. Keep 'em comin' Whatcha gonna do in there?

And yeah, you hit it on the head with the Floyd quote. You'll fit in just fine so welcome aboard tb!

 

[tinbender 66]

Lookin' good so far. Keep 'em comin' Whatcha gonna do in there?

And yeah, you hit it on the head with the Floyd quote. You'll fit in just fine so welcome aboard tb!

Thanks, As for what I'm gonna do in there, I've got a '66 Chevy II 100 2dr sedan that needs some lovin'. Also my wife's beloved '72 VW Beetle needs a heart transplant and a few other things. Other than that I'm just gonna hide in there.

Paul

 

[Motown 454]

Welcome ! Funny when I got here Hotel California was running through my head. lol That will be a nice sized shop when its done. you'll have to keep us posted on your progress. We love pictures...

 

[tinbender 66]

Here are a few more pics as it moved slowwwwwwly along.

First is the little building that I built when we first moved here. It's 16 X16, insulated, heated, tv, etc. I had to have something so I could get my tools out of storage. I thought the garage would come soon after but life got in the way. This little shop was perfect for the R/C airplanes I was into at the time and later I got way into model cars. When I finally get everything out of there, it will become my wife's "cave".


It's a pole building. I couldn't find anyone to bore the holes so I rented on of these.........

And one of these.........poles have to be 48" in ground in a 18" dia. hole.

The 6X8 poles got delivered. Funny thing is, I ordered and paid for 14' ones (for about 9' ceiling) and they delivered 16 footers so my height gained another 2 feet for free

 

[tinbender 66]

Next I bored some holes........Only hit one root! Poured a sack of Quikcrete in the bottom of each.......

Threw the poles in.......

Then my wife helped me kick them around for a couple of days to get the outside dimensions right and make it square. Two days later (drove my wife crazy) everything was right on. Well, actually the diagonal was 1/16th" off lol

 

[tinbender 66]

Gotta go now. I'll get back on here this evening. Thanks for looking. I hadn't seen anything new for a while so I thought I might as well add some clutter

 

[BEAVO]

Cool that u get another two feet.

 

[tinbender 66]

After the posts were located properly the holes were filled with concrete. IIRC it took about 3.5 yards.

Then the trusses

The posts are 12 ft o.c. with two trusses at each. This is legal for the required roof load. The trade off is I can't put a ceiling across the bottom as they are not to designed to carry a bottom load. I nailed some "crosses" low on the posts and nailed all the blocking in between them for the roof purlins.
A friend who owns a well service company came over with his boom truck. No charge. It's nice to have friends!

They were held in place temporarily by some blocks nailed at a line I established with a laser. To be acceptable they had to have an 18" 2 X 6 block under each one with 2- 3/4" bolts and another bolt through the bottom of the truss. One thing I hadn't figured on was spending $300 on bolts and an auger bit!

Then I put up the 2 X 6 purlins 24' O.C.

 

[tinbender 66]

Then came the roof sheeting. I was "lucky" enough to need sheeting just as the price of OSB went WAY up to about $17 per 4 X 8 sheet. At that point I opted to get 1/2" CDX @$20 a sheet. 52 sheets. I just happened to like plywood better.

That's my wife on the roof. She helped me nail a few sheets but she doesn't like heights much!

Felt paper

Day one roofing. Just plain ole comp. Borrowed a coil nailer from a friend. Only way to fly

Day two about done

 

[tinbender 66]

Once the roof was on I could move on to concrete. Another friend who is a small GC helped a lot here as I had zero experience. We did it in three pours on three consecutive Saturdays. It's slab on grade 4" thick with fibermesh, no steel. The slab is about six years old now and doesn't have any cracks. Yet. It came out pretty nice except for bay two which is a little bit rough. We tried to do too much the first day. It started out cloudy and cool and then the sun came out and the guy that delivered it was their truck mechanic who had no clue. I may grind it someday. Maybe not. The floor is sealed and I don't plan to do anything else to it anytime soon. I'd love to have RaceDeck but cripes it would cost more than the concrete did! A lot more.

My friend Gary

These guys are goin'..WTF

 

[BEAVO]

looking good is that your house in back round?what made you choose shingles over metal roofing and are you using metal for the siding or you using vynle

 

[tinbender 66]

I forgot to mention that I put in a toilet base (under about 1/8th" of concrete....SShhhhhhhhh!) and a water line and vent.

 

[BEAVO]

I forgot to mention that I put in a toilet base (under about 1/8th" of concrete....SShhhhhhhhh!) and a water line and vent.

lol pretty clever just dont forget wheres its at

 

[tinbender 66]

looking good is that your house in back round?what made you choose shingles over metal roofing and are you using metal for the siding or you using vynle

Thanks..Yes, that is my house back there. I used shingles so it would somewhat match the house. I used t-111 4 X 8 sheets for the siding which you'll see pretty soon. I was trying to avoid the look of a standard metal covered pole barn. I have done commercial architectural sheet metal for many years and I'm kinda tired of looking at painted metal. I did make my own flashings and gutters though.

 

[tinbender 66]

Welcome ! Funny when I got here Hotel California was running through my head. lol That will be a nice sized shop when its done. you'll have to keep us posted on your progress. We love pictures...

Thanks............I want that SBC!!!

 

[aussie88]

like the garage and the dogs haha can we see some pics of the yellow beetle ?

 

[tinbender 66]

like the garage and the dogs haha can we see some pics of the yellow beetle ?

Thanks.......Here are a couple of pics of that Beetle. My wife LOVES that car!

 

[tinbender 66]

Next was some framing. The area between the poles was completely framed in with 2X6's so I could use decent insullation and wood siding. I didn't want just another metal clad pole barn as there are zillions of them around here. BTW.....I bought all the framing lumber from the local lumber yard instead of Lowe's or HD. Cost about 30% more but it's all douglas fir and very nice wood. It's mostly framed horizontily, except for the doors. I made those gutters where I worked at the time. 10ft lengths. One 20 min. break and a 30 min lunch break=100lft of gutter. CNC brakes are cool.

Did this corner first. The windows were misordered at a job site I was on. Got 'em both for $100

GD openings framed. The larger ones are 9' wide x 8' tall. I didn't have the doors yet. The opening on the end is 10' wide x 7' tall for a door that was given to me by the guy who helped with the concrete. It's an old solid wood
door but it's in excellent condition. At first I wasn't gonna use it so I framed that space in. Changed my mind, ripped it out, reframed for the door. Glad I did.

 

[tinbender 66]

The siding is fake T111, OSB with a coating on it with grooves and texture to make it look like the real stuff, but much less expensive. Trying to drive nails through it is not fun. I first wrapped the whole building with Tyvek.

Painting

 

[tinbender 66]

The garage doors were a major score. My wife found them on craigslist. They are insulated aluminum AND they fit my openings. They have a few dings in them but nothing major, Bottom line: Two 9' wide x 8' high doors, all the tracks, wheel, hardware etc. Plus two Craftsman 1/2 hp door openers=$100 and a little gas. I went online and got installation instructions and hung them. I wasn't all that hard.

The exterior is done. It would be another year before I got power out there. I'll show that process next. I think I achieved my goal of not having it look like a typical pole building.

Thanks for looking

 

[s_morrison57]

Real nice and you got the "look" you were after

 

[Crazy Car Guy]

nice build i wouldnt have guessed it as a pole style. i really like the use of used and miss ordered materials.

 

[BEAVO]

I like it how long does that T-111 hold up i like it alot

 

[JC23]

Jack Olsen is gonna love the color.

I'm digging the build...

 

[ambenz]

Real nice build, wish my town would have let me build my garage longer, but I got max permibility requirements on my little sliver of property.
Look like you have at least a quarter acre of property to work with...nice.
Guess a paved driveway is in your future?

 

[tinbender 66]

Real nice and you got the "look" you were after

nice build i wouldnt have guessed it as a pole style. i really like the use of used and miss ordered materials.

Thanks guys, you can get a lot of good deals if you keep your eyes open and get lucky. Plus, it helps to have a wife who checks Craigslist every day in case there might be something I need to jump on (like the garage doors). Got her looking for cabinets now.

 

[tinbender 66]

I like it how long does that T-111 hold up i like it alot

I don't know yet lol. It's made from osb with a kind of plaster-like coating to give it texture. It's only 3/8ths thick so I put a lot of nails in it. Other than rain the weather is pretty mild around here so I think it will outlast me which means I can never answer that question............

 

[tinbender 66]

Jack Olsen is gonna love the color.

I'm digging the build...

LOL...I never thought about the Jack Olsen connection. Thanks.

 

[tinbender 66]

Real nice build, wish my town would have let me build my garage longer, but I got max permibility requirements on my little sliver of property.
Look like you have at least a quarter acre of property to work with...nice.
Guess a paved driveway is in your future?

Thanks, actually I've got 2 1/2 acres here. If I wanted to I could add about 400 feet to the south end lol. The county might have something to say about that though. I used to live close to Seattle where the houses were about 10 feet apart. I'm about 60 miles north of there now. My commute was sometimes mind numbing but worth it. After 2 years of unemployment I took early retirement so I don't have to go anywhere now.

Pave the driveway?? Are you crazy lol? There's the driveway to the shop, the parking area by the house and about 600 feet of driveway leading out of here. Maybe if I win the lottery. I probably will do concrete for about 30 feet in front of the garage.

 

[tinbender 66]

Story time again............

I had the interior wired for quite some time but no power hooked up so I to dig a ditch for about a hundred feet..........

The tools you see at the far right are the "machines" I used to dig it. It's about 30" deep with 2-2-4 aluminum wire in 1 1/2" pvc.

Here's a view from upstairs in my house....

It enters the garage here. The ground rod is 8' long, pounded in..

It goes under the house here. I was gonna drill a hole above the footing, then I spotted this foundation vent and thought hmmmmmmmmm..

 

[tinbender 66]

The 100 amp panel........I am going to neaten this up a bit so it looks like an electrician did it

LIGHTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GARAGE DOOR OPENERS!!!!

 

[jktruck150]

WOW! That place looks great! I noticed you had some framing on the inside...is that the bathroom going it? Or is it the tool room? LOL

 

[tinbender 66]

WOW! That place looks great! I noticed you had some framing on the inside...is that the bathroom going it? Or is it the tool room? LOL

Thanks Jason, that's a bathroom you see there and some of the framing for my 12 x 12 "office"

 

[tinbender 66]

Time to run the water line. Another 100' of ditch to dig the old fashioned was. The ground is really nice for digging here. I ran a 3/4' poly line and teed it into to supply to my house. Ended up with nice water pressure.

The best view is from upstairs in the house.

The not so fun part was crossing the driveway with 20 nears of compacted gravel.

I put a ball valve shutoff outside the garage in case I ever have a problem or want to add on to the plumbing. I wandered around Lowe's looking for some sort of access box, but all they had were ones for lawn sprinklers. So I bought a 2' length of 4" abs drainpipe and an end cap. I notched the bottom to fir around the water line and sanded around the top to make the end cap easy to take on and off. A cheap handle pop rivited on and a little ugly paint.

Here is everything filled back which was just about as much fun as digging it in the first place. I didn't feel too bad about the yard as it was already torn up from putting in a new septic drain field last year.

 

[Omphaloskeptic]

That is a great looking (non) pole building! I'm guessing you reside near Stanwood/Arlington or thereabouts. Kudos to you and your wife for being such thrifty/resourceful owner-builders.

Does early retirement agree with you, or are you planning on a home-based second career working out of the 'new' shop?

Two building questions:
-What edging material did you use to wrap around the slab on the exterior?
-What product did you use, if any, to keep all those fir needles out of your gutters?

 

[HGFS]

i love the low level post and rail fencing along both sides of your driveway....cool!

 

[AndrewBigA]

thats a very nice looking garge. i love how everything was done as inexpensive as possible. i also admire you & your wife for doing the work yourselves!
can we please see some inside shots?
i like the funky look of the 1 different size garage door. =)

yea jack olson i think is going to like your build.
hes going to try to talk you into some floor tiles & sell you on some heavy duty metal cabinets lol nice garage! remember the jack olson trick if you decide to lay down tile...use a dark colored grout between the tiles so it will never actually look dirty. =)

 

[theoldwizard1]

... Another 100' of ditch to dig the old fashioned way. The ground is really nice for digging here.

I dug a 20'x2'x3' trench for a French drain last year. Solid clay. Never again.

 

[tinbender 66]

That is a great looking (non) pole building! I'm guessing you reside near Stanwood/Arlington or thereabouts. Kudos to you and your wife for being such thrifty/resourceful owner-builders.

Does early retirement agree with you, or are you planning on a home-based second career working out of the 'new' shop?

Two building questions:
-What edging material did you use to wrap around the slab on the exterior?
-What product did you use, if any, to keep all those fir needles out of your gutters?

Thank you. Good guess...I'm just outside of Arlington (Arlington Heights). Are you from around here?

Early retirement is okay. I can pay all the bills and have some left over. Another pension will kick in in a couple years, then I'll be fat and happy. In the meantime, I'm looking for a part time job to speed up progress on the building and get going on the car. At some point I'll get some basic sheet metal equipment (stomp shear, box brake, pinch roller, bead roller etc.) and do a little side work. Maybe artsy stuff or car interior stuff. Cash only lol. I've made a few things for the house that I think I could sell if I made some more.

I assume you mean the base stuff. It's just a PT 2 X 8 with a metal flashing over the top for the base of the siding.

The fir needles. I just go up there with a broom and sweep them INTO the gutters and then sit on the edge of the roof and throw them OUT of the gutters.