The "pedestrian" garage

[oldthudman]

Beautiful car!!

Ah man! A Volksbugbeetle!..........................

nice too!

 

[Dennis Cavallino]

Got the desk done after screwing it up royally. I got it together and thought I would clean a little existing bit of paint off the top surface. Wiped a little area with laquer thinner and it took the fake woodgrain off. Soooooo, I proceeded to wipe it all off. Then I noticed that the "woodgrain" was just on some kind of sticky paper so I decided to peel that off 'cuz underneath was a kind of hard rubber surface. That left a sticky glue residue. I tried acetone, laquer thinner, contact cement remover and anything else I had on hand. No luck. So I went down to the local hardware store to get some advice. The paint guy sold me some adhesive remover. Great. I brushed it on, let it dry and went to scrape it off and chunks of that nice rubber top came with it.It's a good thing I quit drinkin'. Then I just threw the top from the disposible desk on it and called it good. Don't tell me I don't know how to make a short story long.

It now resides in its cubbyhole. You can also see the freshly painted Steelcase unit:

Great story

You could have tried Coca Cola (not another brand). I used it to remove carpetglue from my stairs just before I wanted to sand and paint those. It worked quite well, better than all the special products and my heat gun.

 

[tinbender 66]

Hey man its coming along nicely!

Thanks fergus. How's things?

 

[tinbender 66]

Great story

You could have tried Coca Cola (not another brand). I used it to remove carpetglue from my stairs just before I wanted to sand and paint those. It worked quite well, better than all the special products and my heat gun.

Sure. NOW you tell me. Oh well, live and learn. I can live with it the way it is.

 

[tinbender 66]

Ah man! A Volksbugbeetle!..........................

nice too!

Thanks oldthudman, the Beetle needs a heart transplant. You wouldn't happen to have a spare 1600 would you? My "helpers" are Thelma the weiner dog and Axel the mutt. Thelma kicks his ****.

 

[Red Leader]

Got the desk done after screwing it up royally. I got it together and thought I would clean a little existing bit of paint off the top surface. Wiped a little area with laquer thinner and it took the fake woodgrain off. Soooooo, I proceeded to wipe it all off. Then I noticed that the "woodgrain" was just on some kind of sticky paper so I decided to peel that off 'cuz underneath was a kind of hard rubber surface. That left a sticky glue residue. I tried acetone, laquer thinner, contact cement remover and anything else I had on hand. No luck. So I went down to the local hardware store to get some advice. The paint guy sold me some adhesive remover. Great. I brushed it on, let it dry and went to scrape it off and chunks of that nice rubber top came with it.It's a good thing I quit drinkin'. Then I just threw the top from the disposible desk on it and called it good. Don't tell me I don't know how to make a short story long.

It now resides in its cubbyhole. You can also see the freshly painted Steelcase unit:

You know, its actually kinda comforting knowing that there are others in the boat.

In the shelf I built I put in a little door at the end of it and to get the door face smooth with the rest of the cabinet, I put the door in its place, and bondo'ed the cabinet. Didn't really realized the 'sticking' power of bondo and when I tried to pull that door off...lets just say it ripped wood off in places I sorta wish it hadn't. Glad my wife wasn't out there to hear me when that sucker came off.

The good news is that it all works out. You seem really talented so I know if/when you tackle it again, you'll be able to figure something out, no prob

 

[tinbender 66]

You know, its actually kinda comforting knowing that there are others in the boat.

In the shelf I built I put in a little door at the end of it and to get the door face smooth with the rest of the cabinet, I put the door in its place, and bondo'ed the cabinet. Didn't really realized the 'sticking' power of bondo and when I tried to pull that door off...lets just say it ripped wood off in places I sorta wish it hadn't. Glad my wife wasn't out there to hear me when that sucker came off.

The good news is that it all works out. You seem really talented so I know if/when you tackle it again, you'll be able to figure something out, no prob

Glad I could provide some comfort

 

[tinbender 66]

I went to a barn sale last Saturday and got a few things. The barn had a small apartment in it so I offered $20 for the cabinets and the lady said "ok". I had to go back and remove them which took the better part of a day. Got 'em home, sanded them and attacked them with paint. They're the ones on the left in the first pic. They don't match the other two I got of course but I can live with that. I ran out of handles so I gotta make a run. The countertops came with them and are only temporary.

I got the kitchen sink too . I cut that countertop down and took two inches off of the back of the cabinet so it would fit the space. I already have plumbing roughed in that spot. Still needs prep and paint and handles.

I have one more lower like that one that will probably go south to the "dirty end" of the garage for buffing or something. I got a few uppers also. Not sure what I'm going to do with those.

 

[tinbender 66]

At the same sale I got a couple of old lockers for $5. Gotta have a place to hang my hat! They should look pretty good all painted up. I might even dare to step outside the red and black thing.

 

[tinbender 66]

It's been a while so I thought I'd show a "couple" things.

I stripped and painted those old lockers. I did change the cololr scheme. Instead of red with black doors, I did black with red doors. Daring, huh?

I also had an extra sink base cabinet so I put it with the other one and used the old countertop that I got with the cabinets. I cut it to length 1/2" out of square. I intend to find a nicer top anway on CL or a damaged one from the box store. I'm also watching CL for a single compartment deeper sink.

I think that red and black bathroom door is "to much", so I'm gonna take it back off and just do it semi-gloss black.

 

[tinbender 66]

I also was able to do a little insulating (R-19) and installed some OSB (yes, I know it burns really well). I primed it with Zinser and then painted it medium gray. From there up it will be either a very light gray or white. At least now I won't have to move everything (almost) again and I can make a work bench.



What a mess:

Insulation started:

Osb on and primed:

 

[tinbender 66]

Finished the gray:

Then I was able to put everything back approximatey where it goes. Now I need to add some reinforcement to the cabinets and make my benchtop. Two layers of 3/4" ply and tempered hardboard on top.

A little bling:

 

[tinbender 66]

I also picked up this Steelcase desk for my office. $20 on CL. It'll get the restorationl treatment when I get back to working on that room.

 

[flybefree]

Great job...like what you have done so far...like the black and red theme.

Shaun

 

[Red Leader]

Great progress! Man you gotta have a zillion cabinets now

How big is your shop again?

 

[thelowlife]

Blows my mind the difference in building practices from there to here in Northern Canada.

Looking good though!

 

[tinbender 66]

Great job...like what you have done so far...like the black and red theme.

Shaun

Thanks Shaun, I love those Navions!

Blows my mind the difference in building practices from there to here in Northern Canada.

Looking good though!

Thanks! Cold up there? My wife was originally from Winnipeg. Her dad grew up in The Pas.

 

[tinbender 66]

Great progress! Man you gotta have a zillion cabinets now

How big is your shop again?

Thanks Mr. Leader. I could use more upper ones but I'll probably build my on version of the sliding door type. The garage is 48 x 24. So, when you subtract the office I've got about 1000 sq. ft. I really wish I had made it 30 ft. deep. It wouldn't have cost that much more. Oh well, I lived here for 14 years with just a 16 x 16 building to house my tools and hobby stuff so I'll just count my blessings.

Got the benchtop mostly made today so I'll throw that up when it's done.

 

[Red Leader]

Awesome...I look forward to seeing it when you're done.

 

[tinbender 66]

A pedestrian work bench for a pedestrian garage.

I was wandering around Lowe's when I got the insulation and stuff for that one wall, trying to think of a way to get a top on the cabinets without spending a lot of money. I settled on osb 3/4" subflooring. 3 sheets @ $14 each.

I put three layers on it plus an additional piece of 7/16" on the left to get the cabs to the same level.

Then I put 1/4" tempered hardboard on top of that. I don't do any heavy duty mangling so it should last for a while. It's just screwed on, so it's easily replacable. Eventually I'd like to put stainless on it. After being a tinbender for 30 years I have a lot of friends in the biz so I can get a deal on it.

The bench is 13'6" long and 27" deep. I still need some kind of trim for the front and maybe the back too. There will be some pegboard on the wall above it when I get to that.

 

[Red Leader]

Very clean. I like

 

[Nighttrain]

Man thats looking great!

 

[tinbender 66]

Thanks guys, high praise from you two!

 

[flybefree]

That is going to be an awesome bench...cant't wait to see how you put on the stainless.

 

[Omphaloskeptic]

SS on that bench will be the 'icing on the cake'! Hopefully, your buds in the biz will do you right; of course, we will want to know the details of the deal and see PICTURES of the iced cake. lol

 

[tinbender 66]

That is going to be an awesome bench...cant't wait to see how you put on the stainless.

SS on that bench will be the 'icing on the cake'! Hopefully, your buds in the biz will do you right; of course, we will want to know the details of the deal and see PICTURES of the iced cake. lol

Thanks, I really want to do it but we'll have to see what kind of deal I can wrangle. I'm going down to South Everett next week to pay some union dues and visit at two shops I used to work for. One of them I was shop foreman for and one of the owners is a friend. I'm thinking that MAYBE I could go in and do some fab work for him as a trade for some #4 16ga. SS. Might work. The union wouldn't like it but what they don't know.......................

 

[tinbender 66]

I thought I'd show what my "shop" consisted of for the first 14 years we lived in this house. I didn't think it would take quite so long to get a proper garage but life sometimes puts one's dreams on hold.

When we put our place in Seattle up for sale, I swore I wouldn't buy a place without shop space. But.........we found this house on 2 1/2 acres and fell in love with it and the rest is history. The inside is pretty cool with exposed beams and flooring for the first floor ceiling. I'm not a hunter so my wife bought dead animal heads on Ebay to give it what she calls the "lodge feel".

Anyway, I threw up this 16 X 16 building so I could get my tools out of storage and have a place for hobbies (RC planes and later model cars) and it served that purpose well.

The inside as it is today. Messy. I built the benches and cabinets out of 2 X 4's and doors from my folks kitchen remodel.

The low spot in the bench is where my miter saw used to be.

Just a tip. Co2 works awesome for air brushing.

This exhaust hood will move to the garage when I get a welding area set up. There's a double squirrel cage fan in the attic with 10" round duct. It moves a lot of air!

Model cars. I haven't done any for a while but it's a fun hobby.

Out the door.

When I finally get everything out of this building it will be gutted and turned into a "mom cave".

 

[Red Leader]

I used to 'try' to build models growing up as a kid but never really got the hang of it because I got way too frustrated from being a perfectionist and would just break down and freak out.

Now I'm remodeling a garage.








Pray for me

 

[jamesemery728]

Don't know how I "missed" this thread. You are just having too much fun. Love all these do it yourself projects you have taken on. My Dad used to say that the hardest part of any project for most people, is just getting started. Most folks think and overthink projects to the point that they never even get them started. Looks like you never had that problem. Congrats on all that you have done so far and I look forward to more, more, more. Also nice to have a helpful wife. You are a lucky man.

 

[Bronson]

Just read this entire thread. Great job You have done, there. You made me think about adding that bathroom to My shop, finally. I roughed in plumbing when pouring the slab, I think its time!

 

[tinbender 66]

Don't know how I "missed" this thread. You are just having too much fun. Love all these do it yourself projects you have taken on. My Dad used to say that the hardest part of any project for most people, is just getting started. Most folks think and overthink projects to the point that they never even get them started. Looks like you never had that problem. Congrats on all that you have done so far and I look forward to more, more, more. Also nice to have a helpful wife. You are a lucky man.

Thanks man, I am having a lot of fun. Just wish I could spend money faster. I am a lucky man. I've got a great wife, two grown boys who are awesome, 2 1/2 acres, a garage in progress and a car waiting for attention. Life is pretty good

 

[tinbender 66]

Just read this entire thread. Great job You have done, there. You made me think about adding that bathroom to My shop, finally. I roughed in plumbing when pouring the slab, I think its time!

Thanks Bronson! The bathroom will be great when it gets "functional". It needs its own small septic system. My neighbor is a retired septic contractor. I just need a small tank and he'll pop it in for me on the lowdown. He works cheap for friends. In the meantime I think I'll just put in a dry well for gray water.

 

[tinbender 66]

I aquired a couple of cool things in the last couple of days. I was helping my 84 yo neighbor move a fridge in one of his cargo containers and he said "if you see anything you want, go for it". Well I spied this old Delta bandsaw and the stand with the old Delta table saw and the jointer. So.......I scarfed them up and will bring them back to their former glory. Free is good. The bandsaw weighs 145#. I'll just let the pics talk.

 

[tinbender 66]

The table saw and the jointer share a stand and a 1hp double ended motor. The motor runs nice and I believe all parts are there. From the little bit of serial # research I did, the bandsaw and the jointer are late 40's and the table saw is early 50's. Not sure though. Blame Red Leader for kicking my **** down this slope

 

[mdbeck1]

The table saw and the jointer share a stand and a 1hp double ended motor. The motor runs nice and I believe all parts are there. From the little bit of serial # research I did, the bandsaw and the jointer are late 40's and the table saw is early 50's. Not sure though. Blame Red Leader for kicking my **** down this slope

...

Please pull the Part Number off of the table saw. I think that I own it's brother. ...and I would REALLY like some pics of how the guard works. Mine wasn't attached when I got it.

 

[tinbender 66]

Please pull the Part Number off of the table saw. I think that I own it's brother. ...and I would REALLY like some pics of how the guard works. Mine wasn't attached when I got it.

I hope these help. When I first drug it home I thought the guard was for something else. Someone had bolted a piece of plywood over the holes where it mounts.

As for a part number, all I could find was the serial # plate and a cast-in number below it. Also what I think is a date. 12-53 coincides with the little bit of serial number research I did.

It bolts to the base near the tilt guage.

There's a flat spot on the shaft to lock it down and enough room for a little adjustment.

You can loosen that and flip it out of the way if need be.

http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb359/tinbender66/GARAGE%20ORGINIZATION/GARAGE%20TOOLS/DELTA%20MILWAUKEE%20TABLE%20SAW%20and%20JOINER/006-1.jpg[/IM

If you need anything else just let me know. I will take lots of pictures as I disassemble it to that I can put it back together again:)

 

[Red Leader]

Tinbender,

The first time I saw those pics I didn't realize it was a combo machine with the jointer and table saw sharing a single motor. Those are pretty cool. In my parts they usually go for $200-$300. But the way you picked it up is surely more meaningful. If you happen to see the previous owner, it might be worth asking if he has any of the old manuals for the tools, if you haven't already asked.

Good luck on the restore, if you decide to! Or, you might just scrape off some of the rust, clean em up and put them to work!

One tip - the guys on the OWWM forums like to use some type of degreaser (WD40 or the like) on the rusty tables and then scrape with a razor blade to remove the rough finish of the rust. From there you can sand or polish or do whatever, but it does take care of the roughest stuff. Works well.

-Dave

 

[tinbender 66]

Tinbender,

The first time I saw those pics I didn't realize it was a combo machine with the jointer and table saw sharing a single motor. Those are pretty cool. In my parts they usually go for $200-$300. But the way you picked it up is surely more meaningful. If you happen to see the previous owner, it might be worth asking if he has any of the old manuals for the tools, if you haven't already asked.

Good luck on the restore, if you decide to! Or, you might just scrape off some of the rust, clean em up and put them to work!

One tip - the guys on the OWWM forums like to use some type of degreaser (WD40 or the like) on the rusty tables and then scrape with a razor blade to remove the rough finish of the rust. From there you can sand or polish or do whatever, but it does take care of the roughest stuff. Works well.

-Dave

Thanks, that's nice to know. I was down there today to borrow his pressure washer and in his garage he has another of the exact same combos! He said he swapped the jointers at some point which would explain why the birthdates are 6 years off on the one he gave me. He didn't get them new so he doesn't have the manuals.

I did some cleanup on the bandsaw table yesterday. I took the worst off with a fine cup brush on my angle grinder then used a Pferd Policlean disc, then a ScotchBright hook'n'loop medium pad and then a fine one. Looks pretty good. Pics are on my other computer so I'll post some later.

My plan is to derust all the parts, polish what I can (I finally ordered an EXL last night woo hoo) and then paint in a cool color (no, not black and red. I'm not going to try and do a "nuts and bolts" dead on restoration. I plan to do the tablesaw combo first because I have everything I need except the sheaves. The bandsaw will get set aside for a while. I have a garage to finish!!

 

[rogsmart]

Haven't checked in on this thread in quite some time. Impressive. You sir, are a man who knows what to do with your retirement. The shop interior is coming together really, really well. If you haven't already you might think about posting a picture to the "Garages at night" thread. Given the setting I bet yours would look very cool in a night shot.

Thanks for sharing your garage journey with us.

 

[Wingnut65]

tb, it's been a while since I had a chance to catch-up on your progress. Wow, those cabinets look great and that workbench will be strong enough to put a car on. The lockers look great. Lyon is a good brand and the key looks like they may have come from a country club or the like that issued keys.

Those vintage tools are a perfect score. They could probably earn you a 'You ****' award, but I wouldn't do that to you. Maybe clean them up a little and get the tables shiny again and see if the rest needs any more attention or if they stay original.

Keep up the great work. And, thanks for all the comments on the SLH.