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Hey Snapsimo,

Thanks for the info. I have heard a few people mention foilboard. I had roof insulation and a whirlybird installed as part of the construction. I was intending to just put in standard fiberglass wall bats behind whatever I clad the walls with, but will have to look into this a little more. Where did you source the foilboard from? was it expensive?

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It was about $41 a board. I needed 3 boards per wall section between the shed beams. For me the whole shed cost $1900 but I did both the walls and shed roof as there was no insulation at all. I ended up with 5 boards left over so I used them to do my parents panel roller door bade a huge difference there too.

I thought about doing it with normal insulation but it was too hard up on the high ceiling. Foilboard you just hold it up, screw it into the purlins and away you go. I ordered it from a local mob after talking to foil board in Brissy. The best thing about it is it reflects 90% of the heat first then the insulation in it does its trick.

How's the floor holding up? Are you happy with it! Did it cost much to do?


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If you don't do your ceiling then it would cost less than the $900 delivered. I had to hire a scissor lift as well so you save there as well. The scissor lift wasn't that expensive. They allowed me to pick it up in the arvo when the other user dropped it off. That way I have it all night and all the next day.

I can't recommend Foilboard highly enough. It brilliant. I'm so glad I went with it. Let's see if I can get some photos.
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This is the roof finished
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This is the walls being done. I just slipped them behind the purlins with a spacer to keep it away from the outside wall.

Foilboard said that if I can get a space of at least 15mm it would increase its R value buy 70-80%. I have 2.5mm so it works even better. I just used Foilboard off cuts.

Where are you in Brissy? You could come and have a look. I even have some off cuts you could play with.

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Hey snapsimo,

Thanks for the pics! This is great info to have. I must admit, the Foilboard does look like a convenient solution, it's just a matter of if its worth the extra dollars... I can do all the walls for about $350 using normal fiberglass bats... just with a lot of extra mucking around! I'm going to have to think this through for a while!

The epoxy flooring was done by Absolute Concrete Coatings. They were fantastic to deal with and had a really exceptional attention to detail, which you can see in the end result. Can't recommend them enough. Every time I look at the floor I am happier and and happier with it. I don't have the invoice with me, but I think from memory it works out between $50-$60 per sqm depending on the size of the area, colours etc. This was to grind to bare concrete, prime coat, patch, roll two coats of epoxy, lay flake and two coats of clear over the top. :D

I was tempted to have a go myself with a kit to save money, but I had seen other floors done by this company was very impressed with the result so decided to just go for it. I don't regret it one bit...everybody who has been to the house comments on how good it looks, and it's not something that you want to have to re-do in a few years!
 
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So over the weekend we got stuck into getting the laundry assembled. I didn't really take many progress pictures sorry, but here is how it looks at the moment:

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You can see a little bit of the framework that we had to erect to pack out the rear wall where it was only single brick thickness. This will need to be covered up with a panel before the new splashback tiles go on.
 
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Thanks Kensbey. I'll get in contact with them and get a quote.
The next thing for me is a lift in the shed to get the heaviest things up there and off the floor. Then it can be covered.


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Here's the lift so far. These are the rails to hold it to the wall. The hoist motor will be located on the platform itself. So far so good.


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Ok Guys,

I have been pretty slack on updates, so here comes a massive photo dump.

Got the last few touches done on the laundry in the garage. Tiled a basic splashback above the sink, and built a panel and shelf to cover the supports.
I have not done any tiling before, so it was a bit of learning for me. Overall pretty happy with the way it all came out. Wifey is 100% ecstatic about it, so I'm calling it a win.

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With the garage/laundry under control for now, I decided it was time to get stuck into the shed. Dad and I spend the last two weekends wiring, insulating and sheeting.

I started by filling all the gaps around the base of the walls with waterproof expanding foam. Also did the gaps along the top of the sides. I am hoping this is enough to keep insects and vermin out of the wall cavity, and hopefully stop the insulation from getting moisture in it.
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I don't have a lot of progress pics of the electrical work, as it went in pretty quick. From the house to the shed we ran 10mm^2 power, 2 data cables and a 6 core security cable. The power circuit has a 50A breaker on it at the main board, but that size cable good for a lot more than that, given the length is only about 15m.

Inside the Shed we have a sub board, with a main isolator and all the individual shed circuits. There are circuits for lights, general purpose power, computer desk power, electronics bench power, a 15A welding point, a 20A point for the cnc mill and a spare power circuit for the hanging point and maybe one day a hoist. overall there is 33 power points... just a little overkill :D :D :D. Here is the finished board:
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Here is the insulation starting to go up.
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For the sheeting, I decided to use 16mm laminated melamine. I haven't really seen it used for this purpose before, but I am pretty excited about how it came out. I went down this route for a few reasons:
-Cost: based on my math, it works out about the same as gyprock/drywall. The sheet cost is more expensive, but it can be screwed directly to the wall purlins, so you don't have to build a frame. You also don't need to buy paint.
-Its relatively tough. You can screw things onto it, and most marks just sponge off. I'm hoping it will take a lot more abuse than gyprock would.
-It is a lot more resistant to moisture than ply. The stuff i got is rated as High moisture resistance.
-I can trim the edges with a router for easy fitment. see below.

So here is my super tricky idea to improve the process of hanging the sheets. I bought this special router bit online and then milled a fence on my small cnc.
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The bit cuts a groove into the edge of the sheet that looks like this. If you get the depth set correctly, then two sheets fit together perfectly if you cut them from opposite sides.
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Along the base of the sheets I ran some aluminium U channel. This is really cheap if you can find a good supplier and I think it really adds to the finish. It also should stop the edge of the timber getting damaged.
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To fix the sheets to the steel shed structure, used these really cool wing-tip screws. I thought I would mention them because I didn't know they existed until I came across them at bunnings.
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The screw has a self tapping head, but also has these little flimsy wings on the side. The wings drill a hole bigger than the thread through the timber, but then snap off when they hit the steel. The result is that you can fire them straight through the timber into the frame, without having to pre-drill anything. I would guess this alone saved me a few hours over the past two weeks.

Starting to get sheets on the wall and points terminated.
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First set of LED battens up.
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Rest of insulation done
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Window section and switchboard
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Finished sheeting on rear wall. This was a real OH YEAH moment.
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another wall done. This one will have LED downlights over the benchtops, which is why there is little power points up high.
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Other wall done.
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I didn't take a good overall photo yet, but this gives you an idea of what it all looks like now. You can see the second set of LED battens up. You can also see my hanging point idea.
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This was my idea for a hanging point. The point is mounted on shock cord, which is somewhat elastic. So it hangs up high out of the way normally, but you can pull it down to plug things in. Functionally it works well, but I don't really like the way the power cable bunches up when it's retracted. Note sure if I will keep it this way or end up switching it to a conventional fixed height hanging point on a chain.
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this is the little plastic caps I bought to hide all the screw heads. I now have the job of going around and hammering in 550 of these suckers into all the walls.
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Finishing all the edges is the last thing I have to take care of. here is a little sneak peek. I am going to use some 15x15x1.5mm aluminium angle to hide all the gaps. This is really cheap stuff and I like the industrial look that it gives. I will use some larger sections to finish around the door and window.
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And finally, this is outside the PA door that exits under the deck. The sign was a gift from wifey and adds a nice touch I think :D
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I am so excited at the moment. Can't wait to get the last few things finished and start moving stuff in.

Hope you guys enjoy reading, and let me know what you think!
 
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kensby, far out what you have done is just awesome..:thumbup:

Attention to detail plus.:thumbup:

Insulation, spot on.:thumbup:

The electrics a big tick.:thumbup:

Retractable pendants, I should take a lesson here as my son clocks his head on mine every time.:thumbup:

Happy wife, just outstanding..:thumbup:

Thank for the update, no wonder you are excited...:thumbup:
 
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kensby, far out what you have done is just awesome..:thumbup:

Attention to detail plus.:thumbup:

Insulation, spot on.:thumbup:

The electrics a big tick.:thumbup:

Retractable pendants, I should take a lesson here as my son clocks his head on mine every time.:thumbup:

Happy wife, just outstanding..:thumbup:

Thank for the update, no wonder you are excited...:thumbup:

Aww shucks. Thanks 1/2cup. Means a lot.
 
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Great looking mancave so far.
Wish I would have run some speaker wire before the drywall. Nice touch there.
Ready to see you start putting everything inside.
 
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Great looking mancave so far.
Wish I would have run some speaker wire before the drywall. Nice touch there.
Ready to see you start putting everything inside.



Thanks! I have had literally years of rattling layouts around in my head, so I was determined not to forget anything before the walls went up. I'm sure I'll come across something I've missed soon enough though.
 

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Kingchrome have their workshop hoists on special right now. $267 can lift 800kg.
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looks good snapsimo. I have been considering some kind of mezzanine storage area at the workbench area of the shop. Did you construct yours or did it come as part of the original build?
 

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The floor was already there when I bought the property. It really does make it easy to keep a clear floor when working. Just gets things out of the way.
You have done a brilliant job in your shed. Great work!


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A lot of nice ideas. Keep going, what music do you like?



Thanks. I listen to lots of different music... anything with a decent beat. In general its current stuff, but lately I have been enjoying some 70s and 80s hits. I think the guardians of the galaxy sound track may have instigated that haha
 
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Small update.

Got the last couple of sheets above the roller door in.
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I also started to put on some of the aluminium edging. Pretty happy with this, really finishes it off well.
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So I have a few more bits of aluminium edging to get fitted and then its finished to a state that I'm happy to start filling it. Hopefully I can start getting it set up this weekend.
 
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That's awesome. Bet you can't wait to get in there.


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I called Robert from Absolute Concrete Coatings yesterday. He's coming over next week to have a look and give us a quote to do our floor. I mentioned you so you might get a discount on your next floor lol.


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I called Robert from Absolute Concrete Coatings yesterday. He's coming over next week to have a look and give us a quote to do our floor. I mentioned you so you might get a discount on your next floor lol.


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Awesome. Rob does a fantastic job :thumbup:
 
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OK. Starting to move in. Exciting.

Putting up some of my modular shelving.
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Shelving up.
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Obligatory stack of tyres/rims.
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And... a small obsession with organizing things into plastic boxes. :lol:
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I know it doesn't look like a lot of progress, but as you know it takes a long time to get things organised. I am determined to get things all set up just the way I want... and that includes a lot of bits and pieces sorted away logically so i can find them when needed.
 
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Very excited about getting our floor done like yours. Can't wait.


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I think it's was called midnight granite. Don't quote me on that, I'm a male and only see 16 colours and peach is not one of them lol.


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Haha I can relate. I let wifey pick the color as she has a lot better eye for that kind of thing. I think the one we got was called moonlight?
 

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Fantastic shed. It's interesting to see sheds built on the other side of the planet. Very neat.

I have a question - each of your outlets appear to have as witch on it. Is that some electrical requirement or are you doing that just to be able to manually control each individual outlet?
 
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Fantastic shed. It's interesting to see sheds built on the other side of the planet. Very neat.

I have a question - each of your outlets appear to have as witch on it. Is that some electrical requirement or are you doing that just to be able to manually control each individual outlet?

Thanks! Yes, the regulations in Aus say that every outlet must be switched. It is very handy to be able to switch everything individually though!

Kensby, nice and neat and tidy, well done.

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Hi all,
Weekend Report:

Did some more playing around in sketch up and made a plan for the electronics bench. Bench will have a small drawer and large drawer on each side, and an area in the middle when i can sit at a stool and solder etc. Top drawers are for electronics components storage, large drawers are for current project storage.
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I finally got a chance to actually get the car into the workshop this weekend for some long overdue maintenance items. :rocker:
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I was a little concerned about having enough room in front of the car to work on it, but happy to report there is plenty (or at least will be once I get all my stuff sorted)
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First job was spark plugs, so off come the engine covers.
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This is the first time I have done the plugs on the BMW, or on any inline motor for that matter. I have the right sized sparkplug socket, with the rubber grommet in it to lift the plug out. The problem i ran into was after i had put the new plug back in... the grommet on the spark plug wrench was tight enough that it would pull the socket off the extension, leaving it down the the big hole with the spark plug in it. I ended up taping the socket to the extension when I was putting the plugs back in. This seems like a fundamental flaw with spark plug sockets... surely there is a more elegant solution than electrical tape????
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Here are the plugs that came out. They look reasonable to me, but perhaps someone who speaks sparkplug better than I can chime in and tell me how healthy my M52 is.
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Next job was the crank position sensor. I found an error code a month or so ago that said this sensor was stuffed. Interestingly enough there was no light on the dash or anything, so goodness knows how long it has been bung for. Changing the sensor itself was easy enough, but it does require removing the VANOS solenoid and feed line, which means you need new o-rings etc. Lots of mucking around for a tiny little sensor, but well worth while to see the "No Errors Found" scan afterwards. Could be placebo, but seem to have picked up a little more low end torque now. As far as I can tell, this sensor just helps improve emissions, but perhaps it was running in some kind of safe mode when it was stuffed.
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The last annoying problem is a ticking noise coming from the auxiliary drive belt. I changed the belt today, but that hasn't seemed to help. As best as i can tell it's coming from the alternator or close to it. This one is a mystery to me at the moment. I tried my best to record the sound. Maybe someone can identify the culprit better than I can.

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Hey kensbey, grab your biggest screwdriver and put your ear to the handle and blade end to the engine etc to find where the ticking comes from

BE VERY CAREFULL WITH THE SCREW DRIVER!!! It is a very good way of hearing noise, but be very carefull of moving objects, please.

I have been playing around with a mechanics stethoscope, same principle. unfortunately some of the parts (water pump, tensioner, harmonic balancer) are hard to probe. Alternator seems the loudest.

Kensby, your bench design looks great..

How many KMs on the plugs??

The ticking noise could be an injector..???

I have had the car for 25k, so at least that. Probably a lot longer.

Sound doesn't seem to come from injectors/head. Thats what I thought as well before listening in the engine bay
 
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