jbmatth
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First of all cool banana hammock! I'm interested to see how your ambient air filtration system turns out, I may have to steal that idea once you are done.
JB
JB
Above 1200 Sq/FT The Retread Shed
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Wokspaces above 1200 squarefeet.
Been crazier than normal over the past couple of weeks with the end of the semester. Just have a few interns to visit and I'm officially done for the year and off contract at the end of this week.
Some garden tractor drama last week just to add to the flurry of activity. The rear coupler decided to let go, driving the hydro fan into the hydro filter and while it was flopping around, bent and severed a not-so-easy to find steel hydraulic line for the hydraulic lift. Should have ALL the parts in hand Thursday. Had to buy a complete lift assembly on EBay to get the line, or have one custom made. Figured for an extra 30 bucks we'd have a spare lift.
A bandsaw has finally been acquired. Found out about an auction at the last minute and hung around all day to bid on a 36" bandsaw. Bid opened at $2,000, then 1,500, then 1,200, 1,000, 750, 500, 300....... At $200 I finally decided to get this over with and bid $200. Nobody else wanted it. Sold. I immediately got outside to contact some folks to get a trailer over and get a tractor with forks over to my place. While I was gone a Powermatic 66 went for $170. Oh well, can't win them all. I consider myself pretty lucky to get it and have a group of friends who were so willing to help.
Overall it's in really good shape considering its age and I'll bet a multitude of owners. The motor conversion was done well. The wheel covers didn't fare well in the move, but they were pretty old and you can't expect nailed together 2x4's, plywood and pine boards to last forever. The throat plate looks like someone drilled out an opening. I hope to pull the table, throw it on a mill, clean that up and make a proper one eventually. I ordered a VFD off EBay and should have it in a week or two. Got my eyes open for a pallet jack so I can move it around easier.
Some garden tractor drama last week just to add to the flurry of activity. The rear coupler decided to let go, driving the hydro fan into the hydro filter and while it was flopping around, bent and severed a not-so-easy to find steel hydraulic line for the hydraulic lift. Should have ALL the parts in hand Thursday. Had to buy a complete lift assembly on EBay to get the line, or have one custom made. Figured for an extra 30 bucks we'd have a spare lift.
A bandsaw has finally been acquired. Found out about an auction at the last minute and hung around all day to bid on a 36" bandsaw. Bid opened at $2,000, then 1,500, then 1,200, 1,000, 750, 500, 300....... At $200 I finally decided to get this over with and bid $200. Nobody else wanted it. Sold. I immediately got outside to contact some folks to get a trailer over and get a tractor with forks over to my place. While I was gone a Powermatic 66 went for $170. Oh well, can't win them all. I consider myself pretty lucky to get it and have a group of friends who were so willing to help.
Overall it's in really good shape considering its age and I'll bet a multitude of owners. The motor conversion was done well. The wheel covers didn't fare well in the move, but they were pretty old and you can't expect nailed together 2x4's, plywood and pine boards to last forever. The throat plate looks like someone drilled out an opening. I hope to pull the table, throw it on a mill, clean that up and make a proper one eventually. I ordered a VFD off EBay and should have it in a week or two. Got my eyes open for a pallet jack so I can move it around easier.
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fergus
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Nice score dude! That thing is beastly!
taumac
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Thing is freaking HUGE. Nice deal on that.
jbmatth
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That looked big until you held it in your hand. If I had a dollar every time I've heard that lol. Great score on the saw, I will give you $300 for it an make the trip up to pick it up this weekend. 
JB
JB
Ha.....good one. Somebody who was watching us load took that and I had her email it to me. She may have been part of the family who was selling. The woodworker who owned all this passed away recently. I didn't know him but talked to quite a few people who did.
The 20" Oliver jointer with a helical head went for real money...$2600 if I remember right. Quite a bit of newer Feldor equipment was there too. I got my lot and focussed on how the hell I was going to get it off the floor, onto a trailer and in my shop so I was on the phone for the remaining equipment. Stuff had to be out in about a 24 hour timeframe so I risked $200 if I couldn't get it out. A guy in a building close by went and got some blocking and pry bars and we got it up high enough to get a forklift under it. Magically, a forklift showed up and loaded us for no charge. A former student was able to hop in a truck with a trailer as soon as I called and a local farmer friend of mine threw the forks on his tractor and headed to my place. It all just came together. The forklift driver wouldn't take any money. I bought some pizza and a few beers. No buyers fee at the auction either. I literally got this for about $275 total out of pocket. So, technically your offer would net me $25 profit. Thanks anyway, I think this is going to live with me for a while.
The VFD was $141 delivered. Still need to buy some wire and run some conduit over the next week so I'm ready to go when it shows up. I was going to add some feet to it and get a pallet Jack, but I think once I get it running I'm just going to slide it on some pipe to its final resting place.....I just need to decide where that is.
The 20" Oliver jointer with a helical head went for real money...$2600 if I remember right. Quite a bit of newer Feldor equipment was there too. I got my lot and focussed on how the hell I was going to get it off the floor, onto a trailer and in my shop so I was on the phone for the remaining equipment. Stuff had to be out in about a 24 hour timeframe so I risked $200 if I couldn't get it out. A guy in a building close by went and got some blocking and pry bars and we got it up high enough to get a forklift under it. Magically, a forklift showed up and loaded us for no charge. A former student was able to hop in a truck with a trailer as soon as I called and a local farmer friend of mine threw the forks on his tractor and headed to my place. It all just came together. The forklift driver wouldn't take any money. I bought some pizza and a few beers. No buyers fee at the auction either. I literally got this for about $275 total out of pocket. So, technically your offer would net me $25 profit. Thanks anyway, I think this is going to live with me for a while.
The VFD was $141 delivered. Still need to buy some wire and run some conduit over the next week so I'm ready to go when it shows up. I was going to add some feet to it and get a pallet Jack, but I think once I get it running I'm just going to slide it on some pipe to its final resting place.....I just need to decide where that is.
Best laid plans......
I had set some timelines for our bathroom addition/remodel. They've pretty much gone out the window. Some really quirky framing was discovered when I opened up the soffits in the bathroom. That wall is cantilevered 2 feet off the basement foundation. Myself and a friend or two concluded, obviously, that the soffit was merely there for insulation value, the trusses terminating there wouldn't allow for insulation. No big deal. I removed a wall with a door but never took the sheetrock off the soffits until a few days ago. I could see some framing attached to the door header, but just assumed it was a few 2x4's making up the soffit framing.
It was actually a triple 2x10 beam on one side and a double 2x10 beam on the other. Attached to a single 2x10 door header on what should be a non-load bearing wall......between floor joists, essentially held up with 1/2" plywood subfloor.
Plans changed a bit after some head scratching. I'd committed to some things and there was a funeral to go to and I'm just now able to start back up on finishing the framing. The overall size of the bathroom didn't change but the ceiling framing got a little more complicated, more trim details and a little less flexibility in the shower for a planned window/shampoo niche.
I've been sitting on the VFD for my bandsaw for about 10 days. The saw is still parked In the middle of the shop, as is a shiny new lawnmower that, well, wasn't in the budget.
My neighbor and I, between us, have 4 old Cub Cadet garden tractors. One is strictly for parts....and it's getting picked pretty clean. One is actually his (1974 149) and it's our 'runner' with a mow deck, plow, hydro lift and a rototiller. My two (1967 125's) run great but are constantly plagued with PTO issues. One is smoked entirely....again....and the other constantly stays engaged. Well, his mower went through a series of failures while we scrambled to get our properties mowed between rainstorms. I finally saw the writing on the wall......I need a mower that starts/works without wrenching all the time.......so I bought one for about $2k. Only I'm still working on mowers. It's infuriating. In a fit of 'I don't need this in my life', I gave him one of my runners....then we got it started/tuned and the PTO miraculously disengaged, making it almost easy to start. Then the deck threw a spindle. Spare deck! He's mowing with that, I'm mowing with my new one.....and yet I'm STILL wrenching on his 149 trying to repair a no longer available hydro line for the lift. I bought a whole lift assembly on EBay just to get the line...it was cheaper than having one made. Upon arrival the whole assembly is completely different than his. Still had to have one made using hose and what must be gold plated fittings. Fought for a day to get that in. Had to pull the engine to replace the hydro fan (that took out the steel line when the driveline rubber failed and also took out the hydro filter). On top of that I'm also working on my mother-in-laws mower.
So, yea, I have a new mower so I don't have to work on them anymore.....
I had set some timelines for our bathroom addition/remodel. They've pretty much gone out the window. Some really quirky framing was discovered when I opened up the soffits in the bathroom. That wall is cantilevered 2 feet off the basement foundation. Myself and a friend or two concluded, obviously, that the soffit was merely there for insulation value, the trusses terminating there wouldn't allow for insulation. No big deal. I removed a wall with a door but never took the sheetrock off the soffits until a few days ago. I could see some framing attached to the door header, but just assumed it was a few 2x4's making up the soffit framing.
It was actually a triple 2x10 beam on one side and a double 2x10 beam on the other. Attached to a single 2x10 door header on what should be a non-load bearing wall......between floor joists, essentially held up with 1/2" plywood subfloor.
Plans changed a bit after some head scratching. I'd committed to some things and there was a funeral to go to and I'm just now able to start back up on finishing the framing. The overall size of the bathroom didn't change but the ceiling framing got a little more complicated, more trim details and a little less flexibility in the shower for a planned window/shampoo niche.
I've been sitting on the VFD for my bandsaw for about 10 days. The saw is still parked In the middle of the shop, as is a shiny new lawnmower that, well, wasn't in the budget.
My neighbor and I, between us, have 4 old Cub Cadet garden tractors. One is strictly for parts....and it's getting picked pretty clean. One is actually his (1974 149) and it's our 'runner' with a mow deck, plow, hydro lift and a rototiller. My two (1967 125's) run great but are constantly plagued with PTO issues. One is smoked entirely....again....and the other constantly stays engaged. Well, his mower went through a series of failures while we scrambled to get our properties mowed between rainstorms. I finally saw the writing on the wall......I need a mower that starts/works without wrenching all the time.......so I bought one for about $2k. Only I'm still working on mowers. It's infuriating. In a fit of 'I don't need this in my life', I gave him one of my runners....then we got it started/tuned and the PTO miraculously disengaged, making it almost easy to start. Then the deck threw a spindle. Spare deck! He's mowing with that, I'm mowing with my new one.....and yet I'm STILL wrenching on his 149 trying to repair a no longer available hydro line for the lift. I bought a whole lift assembly on EBay just to get the line...it was cheaper than having one made. Upon arrival the whole assembly is completely different than his. Still had to have one made using hose and what must be gold plated fittings. Fought for a day to get that in. Had to pull the engine to replace the hydro fan (that took out the steel line when the driveline rubber failed and also took out the hydro filter). On top of that I'm also working on my mother-in-laws mower.
So, yea, I have a new mower so I don't have to work on them anymore.....
dhubbard422
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This rings so true! Project overload... at times, it seems as though there is no escaping it! 
HSpencer
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WOW, what a nice project!! That is a beauty.
Best Regards
Herb
Best Regards
Herb
Been plugging away on the bathroom remodel/shower addition. Got all the Sheetrock up, electrical done and plumbing done and ready to tie into the main hot/cold lines, but I'm waiting until my wife goes out of town this weekend to shut the water off and finish the job, just in case I'm not quite as good at sweating pipe as I hope I am. Still need to tie in the vent in the attic and that'll happen on some cool morning....it's hot up there.
Started cleaning up the shop after dropping that bandsaw in the middle of it. Got it moved to its resting place and got conduit run but keep forgetting to buy wire. Got my VFD and found an enclosure for it that may be a tad small. I might play with mounting a big heat sink to it, or just get a bigger enclosure. I'd also like to figure out how to put an external On/Off switch on it. Just haven't really had time to sort it all out yet.
A couple things I noticed on the saw prior to bidding I got sorted out. First, that's not the original table, or it's been modified. A 3/8" steel plate was mounted to the bottom of the table and then attached to the trunnions, raising the table 3/8"....explaining why the side table was low. That also explained why the blade didn't line up with the blade slot in the table.
I think that if the blade slot is lined up with the blade, it's about .3" off, that the table hits the side table when it's tilted.....haven't checked it yet, but it makes sense.
The throat plate opening is sort of a hot mess. JB Weld was used to close off the original opening and somebody drilled a series of holes and attempted to file a straight line. The throat plate was then glued in. So, the previous owner had to break the throat plate out to change the blade and then fabricate a new one and glue it in. I don't think blades got changed frequently.
I busted the throat plate out and scraped the panel adhesive out and then tried to create a true rectangular shape for a new throat plate. I'll throw it on a mill in September and clean/square it up and make a new aluminum insert for it. Not sure what else I'll find when I take the table off.
Still a great saw, just a bit wonky. Checked the history of the manufacturer and the saw is older than I thought and while not rare, there's not too many of them around. But, my luck getting a Tannawitz, Oliver or Northfield saw on the cheap was 0 for 14, so I'm not complaining.
Started cleaning up the shop after dropping that bandsaw in the middle of it. Got it moved to its resting place and got conduit run but keep forgetting to buy wire. Got my VFD and found an enclosure for it that may be a tad small. I might play with mounting a big heat sink to it, or just get a bigger enclosure. I'd also like to figure out how to put an external On/Off switch on it. Just haven't really had time to sort it all out yet.
A couple things I noticed on the saw prior to bidding I got sorted out. First, that's not the original table, or it's been modified. A 3/8" steel plate was mounted to the bottom of the table and then attached to the trunnions, raising the table 3/8"....explaining why the side table was low. That also explained why the blade didn't line up with the blade slot in the table.
I think that if the blade slot is lined up with the blade, it's about .3" off, that the table hits the side table when it's tilted.....haven't checked it yet, but it makes sense.
The throat plate opening is sort of a hot mess. JB Weld was used to close off the original opening and somebody drilled a series of holes and attempted to file a straight line. The throat plate was then glued in. So, the previous owner had to break the throat plate out to change the blade and then fabricate a new one and glue it in. I don't think blades got changed frequently.
I busted the throat plate out and scraped the panel adhesive out and then tried to create a true rectangular shape for a new throat plate. I'll throw it on a mill in September and clean/square it up and make a new aluminum insert for it. Not sure what else I'll find when I take the table off.
Still a great saw, just a bit wonky. Checked the history of the manufacturer and the saw is older than I thought and while not rare, there's not too many of them around. But, my luck getting a Tannawitz, Oliver or Northfield saw on the cheap was 0 for 14, so I'm not complaining.
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Bib Overalls
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Killer deal. If that had been a 16" old timer in comparable condition it would have sold for a lot more. Most people do not have the room or the recurring need for something as big as that.
Yep. Vintage Delta/Rockwell 14" saws routinely go for $400-$600 around here. An older 20" Rockwell is $1000 if you're lucky. Cool old vintage Walker Turner saws are about $1000 as well.
I technically own a 20" Delta/Milwaukee/Crecent bandsaw. I just sort of left it with a friend.....about 14 years ago in Spokane Washington. It's just not worth the expense of getting it. After that long the saw is his, if he hasn't already sold it. I shoved material through a shaper for 12 hours and handed over $200 cash for that saw. My starting bid of $200 was mainly nostalgic, I fully expected it to go for about $600. Nobody else wanted to move it. Also, for a 36" saw, the resaw capacity is laughable at about 11". With some tinkering I might get 14".
Firebrand
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Excellent score on the vintage iron! I always go after the Made in the USA stuff from back in the day as the payoff in terms of quality of materials, workmanship, and performance simply can not be matched today.
I feel your pain on the bathroom remodel. Headed there this Fall and not sure what lurks beneath in my almost 200 year old farmhouse. Good luck and keep at it. And the updates, please.
I feel your pain on the bathroom remodel. Headed there this Fall and not sure what lurks beneath in my almost 200 year old farmhouse. Good luck and keep at it. And the updates, please.
Bigbandguy
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I didn't notice a discussion of suckage on that bandsaw but I think the matter ought to at least be considered... 275 for the whole deal including getting that monster home? You smell of the rose!
If it's any consolation, that bandsaw still isn't hooked up so its just eating floor space. I should be getting wire delivered today so I might actually move forward. But, yea, that was a pretty sweet deal.
I've had a pretty full summer of bathroom remodel work (not done and won't be anytime soon), a 3 week 5200 mile road trip, a 4 day bicycle trip and a few concentrated weeks of shop work. The shop work created some pieces for sale that I actually sold 1/3 of what I made today at our local farmers market. Cha-Ching.
I've had a pretty full summer of bathroom remodel work (not done and won't be anytime soon), a 3 week 5200 mile road trip, a 4 day bicycle trip and a few concentrated weeks of shop work. The shop work created some pieces for sale that I actually sold 1/3 of what I made today at our local farmers market. Cha-Ching.
jbmatth
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Very nice on the mini-me, when do you think you"ll have big brother operational?
JB
JB
Haven't been paid since June so my cash flow has stopped flowing. Once I see a deposit on October 1, I can start buying the rest of what I need.
I used that little fella tonight to test out a door handle idea and it cuts really well which surprised me. Its cute but I didn't really want it. Once I get the 36" spinning I'm giving it to my neighbor......who will then store it in my shop. I basically got it for nothing as part of a deal on an old Rockwell drillpress from a friend who is moving and getting rid of stuff.
In other news, I actually used Morty the Foster Morticer the other day. Not impressed. While it has a foot pedal, which I really like, there's no limit stops in the X or Y axis and you can't move the X axis. The X axis is fixed on dovetail ways so you have to unclamp the workpiece and move it a little, clamp and cut....repeat until you hate it. The Y axis can be adjusted, but with no limit stops you can't return to exactly the same spot. Morty is going into storage.
I used that little fella tonight to test out a door handle idea and it cuts really well which surprised me. Its cute but I didn't really want it. Once I get the 36" spinning I'm giving it to my neighbor......who will then store it in my shop. I basically got it for nothing as part of a deal on an old Rockwell drillpress from a friend who is moving and getting rid of stuff.
In other news, I actually used Morty the Foster Morticer the other day. Not impressed. While it has a foot pedal, which I really like, there's no limit stops in the X or Y axis and you can't move the X axis. The X axis is fixed on dovetail ways so you have to unclamp the workpiece and move it a little, clamp and cut....repeat until you hate it. The Y axis can be adjusted, but with no limit stops you can't return to exactly the same spot. Morty is going into storage.
I was working on finishing up a few projects last night and noticed my jointer was spitting a bit of chip out. I assumed that there was a clog at the connection between the jointer and the hose going to the blast gate, which has happened once before. Nope.
A couple of months ago I neglected to check and empty the barrel and while I thought I caught it before the filter side clogged up, I was dead wrong. Spent the better part of the morning unclogging everything and then cleaning up. Works great now. I will definitely remember to give the barrel a jiggle more frequently now. I don't want to repeat today's performance.
I got some electrical fittings and started wiring up the bandsaw. I'm at the point where I can turn the breaker on and get the various settings set after I disconnect the motor. Another wedding to go to in a few minutes so maybe, just maybe I'll be able to spin up the bandsaw tonight.
A couple of months ago I neglected to check and empty the barrel and while I thought I caught it before the filter side clogged up, I was dead wrong. Spent the better part of the morning unclogging everything and then cleaning up. Works great now. I will definitely remember to give the barrel a jiggle more frequently now. I don't want to repeat today's performance.
I got some electrical fittings and started wiring up the bandsaw. I'm at the point where I can turn the breaker on and get the various settings set after I disconnect the motor. Another wedding to go to in a few minutes so maybe, just maybe I'll be able to spin up the bandsaw tonight.
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Got all the presets adjusted as per all the YouTube channels I've watched and taken notes on. First try with the belt disconnected and it ran backwards. Flip two wires and:
It's extremely smooth for as big as it is. My old Rockwell/Crecent 20" had more vibration. Need to get some blades made for it and get some small re-sawing done for more jewelry boxes. Hoping to have another 6-12 done before Christmas.
It's extremely smooth for as big as it is. My old Rockwell/Crecent 20" had more vibration. Need to get some blades made for it and get some small re-sawing done for more jewelry boxes. Hoping to have another 6-12 done before Christmas.
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This weekend I only have a small amount of time to putz in the shop. My wife was a speaker at a conference so we were out of town Thurs-Sat. Got home late Saturday afternoon and mowed....hopefully that's the last one this season.
Late last night I started figuring out some sort of fence for this bandsaw.
I was going to bolt up some angle and tube and just use my tablesaw fence on it. With the blade slot in the table in the front rather than the side that would mean I'd have to unbolt the front rail every time I changed a blade......so scrap that idea. I figured I'd just have to clamp some sort of fence on. While I was using some fine steel wool to clean up the top I noticed two 1/4"x20 tapped holes equidistant from the blade. Bingo.
It doesn't leave much room for adjustment but it'll work for what I need most of the time, between 1/4" and 2-1/2". Anything larger and I can make another one that clamps to the table.
Had to spend some time fiddling with adjustments of the table and the blade support bearings. Not too shabby.
I made some jewelry boxes a month or so ago and sold some. I need to get another batch or two started so I have them done by Christmas. If I sell some more, great. If not, everybody gets a box as a gift this year.
I bought a large lot of figured hardwood 'shorts' from a guy I've been buying figured material from for quite a while. I've used all of it that didn't lend itself to re-sawing. Now I can re-saw that material to get figured tops made for the boxes.
Late last night I started figuring out some sort of fence for this bandsaw.
I was going to bolt up some angle and tube and just use my tablesaw fence on it. With the blade slot in the table in the front rather than the side that would mean I'd have to unbolt the front rail every time I changed a blade......so scrap that idea. I figured I'd just have to clamp some sort of fence on. While I was using some fine steel wool to clean up the top I noticed two 1/4"x20 tapped holes equidistant from the blade. Bingo.
It doesn't leave much room for adjustment but it'll work for what I need most of the time, between 1/4" and 2-1/2". Anything larger and I can make another one that clamps to the table.
Had to spend some time fiddling with adjustments of the table and the blade support bearings. Not too shabby.
I made some jewelry boxes a month or so ago and sold some. I need to get another batch or two started so I have them done by Christmas. If I sell some more, great. If not, everybody gets a box as a gift this year.
I bought a large lot of figured hardwood 'shorts' from a guy I've been buying figured material from for quite a while. I've used all of it that didn't lend itself to re-sawing. Now I can re-saw that material to get figured tops made for the boxes.
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I've had a voice in the back of my head for about a year.....to start a YouTube channel. Not to make any money, although, sure, I'll monetise videos on the off chance for a check for $00.03.
So, I'm spending a bit of time making some video content. It's early, but I'm getting a big kick out of it so far.
When I go back less than three years, that shop was empty. Totally empty. I've gotten a lot done in a short time. I'm also sort of transitioning away from making things FOR the shop and making things IN the shop. Not sure this is the forum for that....but I'll still be around.
check it out if you'd like:
So, I'm spending a bit of time making some video content. It's early, but I'm getting a big kick out of it so far.
When I go back less than three years, that shop was empty. Totally empty. I've gotten a lot done in a short time. I'm also sort of transitioning away from making things FOR the shop and making things IN the shop. Not sure this is the forum for that....but I'll still be around.
check it out if you'd like:
A pretty productive weekend so far. Friday was pretty much all grading. Mid-term right around the corner. Managed to get a second video rendered and uploaded while I was grading.
I'm liking the rhythm of taping while I'm working. Up until 3 weeks ago I'd sneak a smoke in as soon as I finished a step. Now I'm busy with planning where to put the camera, etc. Cold turkey quit smoking...again. But, this time I'm done. It'll be three weeks tomorrow. So far I'm good.
The videos may be rough, but I'm having a good time and if it keeps me from firing up, all the better.
Got the mortise jig done and the joinery sled done in the last week.
Finally used the tenon jig I made a few months ago. Used the sled to cut the shoulders.
Set the bandsaw up with a slab of aspen for a fence and rough cut the cheeks.
All this is needed to build a materials cart that will live at the end of my bench (when I actually finish my bench) to move/store materials for a current project.
That's the idea anyway.
I'm liking the rhythm of taping while I'm working. Up until 3 weeks ago I'd sneak a smoke in as soon as I finished a step. Now I'm busy with planning where to put the camera, etc. Cold turkey quit smoking...again. But, this time I'm done. It'll be three weeks tomorrow. So far I'm good.
The videos may be rough, but I'm having a good time and if it keeps me from firing up, all the better.
Got the mortise jig done and the joinery sled done in the last week.
Finally used the tenon jig I made a few months ago. Used the sled to cut the shoulders.
Set the bandsaw up with a slab of aspen for a fence and rough cut the cheeks.
All this is needed to build a materials cart that will live at the end of my bench (when I actually finish my bench) to move/store materials for a current project.
That's the idea anyway.
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fergus
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Looking good man. Not sure why this thread is such a sleeper...but I think more people should check it out.
I'm actually amazed anyone reads it.
I don't really ask questions or ask for any sort of feedback, so I get it. It's mainly for myself to look back on and see the evolution of my own space. When I think that the studio isn't progressing fast enough, I can look back to when the whole space reeked of dog pee and had nothing in it but firewood.
But if anyone gets any ideas for their own space then it's a win/win.
I don't really ask questions or ask for any sort of feedback, so I get it. It's mainly for myself to look back on and see the evolution of my own space. When I think that the studio isn't progressing fast enough, I can look back to when the whole space reeked of dog pee and had nothing in it but firewood.
But if anyone gets any ideas for their own space then it's a win/win.
1/2 Cup
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Fergus, I have to agree, there is some great that Gizmosity does and I do check the thread regularly..
Keep up the great work and well articulate detail..
Another week down. This is my wife's busy season so she has been at conferences every week and that continues until early December. I've been a bachelor for half of the week. I tend to work late and then have an hour commute. Dinner wasn't really happening until about 8:30 until I remembered I had these in the fridge at work:
The shop cart is pretty much done. I've thought about staining, dyeing it or painting it. I've been wanting to play around with a couple shades of milk paint, so this might become an experiment. The current 'top' is actually going to be the bottom shelf. I had it laying around and it's nearly the perfect size as long as I can ignore the holes and slots cut in it from when it was the bottom of my tool box. And I can.
I've had a couple thousand board feet of 8/4 and 12/4 Aspen drying on the other side of the shop. I built the double router table with it as well as this cart and I'll likely build all sorts of other things using it. It's free and it's dry.
I've still got 6 keepsake/jewelry boxes left to sell. I sold quite a few at our local Farmers Market in my wife's booth. I didn't think they'd sell there, but I was there on Saturdays anyway so I had nothing to lose. Now that the market is over I don't really have enough of them to open an Etsy store, which is what I was going to do. So, I might make another dozen of these and get them out there for Christmas. If they sell, great. If not, I can give them away as Christmas presents or just hang onto them for the next Farmers Market season.
The next project is to finish my bench.
I might actually think about moving forward with the CNC router build. I have the steel for the base and I just spied some I-beams that look about the size I need at a semi-local surplus place. New I'm looking at about $250. If these are straight enough and flat enough I could only be in it $100. That would allow me to cut steel and weld steel over Christmas break. That's only about 7-8 weeks away. I need to go over my drawings, shorten it from a 5'x13' to a 5'x10' and update my cut list.
I initially thought I would have a 5'x9' cutting area AND a 5'x3' cutting area so full size sheets could be cutting and I could be setting up other parts on the smaller portion of the table. There's just not enough room in my shop for that. By the time you factor in clearances to work on both ends and that one end needs 10' clear to feed sheets in, the overall footprint gets enormous. It basically eats an entire 30' wall and is about 8' deep when you factor in space behind it to clamp/fasten materials. I plan on bumping into the other half of the shop about 15'x15' to house the 5'x10' CNC. The $6k price to build could get paid back in a single summer based on jobs I turned down last summer. It's making more sense to move forward with the build,
The shop cart is pretty much done. I've thought about staining, dyeing it or painting it. I've been wanting to play around with a couple shades of milk paint, so this might become an experiment. The current 'top' is actually going to be the bottom shelf. I had it laying around and it's nearly the perfect size as long as I can ignore the holes and slots cut in it from when it was the bottom of my tool box. And I can.
I've had a couple thousand board feet of 8/4 and 12/4 Aspen drying on the other side of the shop. I built the double router table with it as well as this cart and I'll likely build all sorts of other things using it. It's free and it's dry.
I've still got 6 keepsake/jewelry boxes left to sell. I sold quite a few at our local Farmers Market in my wife's booth. I didn't think they'd sell there, but I was there on Saturdays anyway so I had nothing to lose. Now that the market is over I don't really have enough of them to open an Etsy store, which is what I was going to do. So, I might make another dozen of these and get them out there for Christmas. If they sell, great. If not, I can give them away as Christmas presents or just hang onto them for the next Farmers Market season.
The next project is to finish my bench.
I might actually think about moving forward with the CNC router build. I have the steel for the base and I just spied some I-beams that look about the size I need at a semi-local surplus place. New I'm looking at about $250. If these are straight enough and flat enough I could only be in it $100. That would allow me to cut steel and weld steel over Christmas break. That's only about 7-8 weeks away. I need to go over my drawings, shorten it from a 5'x13' to a 5'x10' and update my cut list.
I initially thought I would have a 5'x9' cutting area AND a 5'x3' cutting area so full size sheets could be cutting and I could be setting up other parts on the smaller portion of the table. There's just not enough room in my shop for that. By the time you factor in clearances to work on both ends and that one end needs 10' clear to feed sheets in, the overall footprint gets enormous. It basically eats an entire 30' wall and is about 8' deep when you factor in space behind it to clamp/fasten materials. I plan on bumping into the other half of the shop about 15'x15' to house the 5'x10' CNC. The $6k price to build could get paid back in a single summer based on jobs I turned down last summer. It's making more sense to move forward with the build,
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jbmatth
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Great to hear you are working toward the CNC router table, that will be very cool. A friend at work built a 5'x5'x 3" I believe, all from scratch, did all of the programing and other stuff way over my head. I helped build the excel calculation page to output for x, y, and z. Pretty cool table but he has since moved positions and I haven't ever seen it in action.
JB
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don long
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I juist found your thread and love the fact that you are working with wood. something I want to learn more about.
No time now but tonite I will go thru your thread
Don
No time now but tonite I will go thru your thread
Don
I'm working 'toward' it. But it's still a very, very long term project. Our finances are really tight this year and will be for a while. Both the house and shop need new roofs. That's going to be a significant chunk of dough. In fact, I just asked my wife to take my bucket of change to the bank. There's enough in there to buy 20' of 8" C-channel, which is what I need to move forward with the base. I started to make design changes to shrink it over the weekend but still need to finish that to come up with a final cuts list and drawings for each part. I 'might' be able to work on it over winter break, but I promised my wife that we would move her business office into the den as she needs more space. So I've got a bunch of drywall work to get done as well and that's got to get done first.
The CNC mill is a go, but it's a slow go.
I bought a bunch of new clamps on mega-sale and made a video on clamps a couple weeks ago too. It's just terrible as the others, but fun for me.
Don, you might pick up some ideas. I'm sort of using this forum to document the changes to my space since I moved in. It's come a LONG way. But there isn't much 'how to'.
I'm playing with video currently with more 'how I' do things in the woodshop. I've got some complete projects I plan on doing in video format that will better explain the processes I use and geared more toward beginner/intermediate woodworkers. Might fit the bill, might not.
There's quite a bit of woodworking video content out there. Mark Spagnolo (might have butchered his name), goes by The Woodwhisperer and if you go back to his earlier video content, has some excellent how to videos. I used a couple of them in my Woods classes just so I didn't have to talk so much and to give students a break from my lectures. I've taught woodworking for the last 13-14 years. This year I stopped and have taken over courses in other areas. I guess it's in me and has to come out because now I'm working on teaching woodworking without an audience.
jbmatth
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I have your youtube channel linked and plan to check them out at some point when I get a free minute. I'm sure they aren't as terrible as you think they are. Even if they are, I'll watch them just to give you a few extra coins for that bucket.
JB
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I have your youtube channel linked and plan to check them out at some point when I get a free minute. I'm sure they aren't as terrible as you think they are. Even if they are, I'll watch them just to give you a few extra coins for that bucket.
JB
They aren't monitized, I don't expect they will ever have enough views to net $00.01.
jbmatth
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Oh well, I'll watch them anyway, sadly I've been too busy in the evenings to have any spare time to catch up on them.
JB
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I always think I'm going to get so much done in October/November, but it never happens. You'd think I'd learn. Crazy busy at work, my wife's business is in the peak of her busy time as well. Add in some family medical issues and I haven't even found time to turn the radio on and sweep the shop floor in nearly a month. I managed to put in a new bottom seal on one of the shop doors two weeks ago. I'll chalk that up as a win. There's about 10,000 less box elder beetles in the shop now compared to last year.
It was always my intent to have half my shop set up for woods and half for metals. I've concentrated on the woods side over the last couple of years and while I'm not 'done', the majority of equipment is in place and working well enough to limp along as a kinda-sorta-wanna-be-cabinet-shop. I set it up first so that it could be used on the remodel of our bathrooms and kitchen.
My vision is different than what most people see as a metals fab shop. I want to able to machine patterns, cast non-ferrous (mainly bronze) near net shape and machine finished castings, so a small foundry/machine shop is what I'm scheming on.
I've always loved the look of dovetailed infill planes. I've bought some materials and a couple small/cheap tools and I HOPE I can start constructing a dovetailed infill shoulder plane in early January. Once I get my feet wet in building them, I have several smooth planes I designed 12-15 years ago that I'd like to get figured out and maybe actually get started on. Hand filing and peening isn't exciting to document, but it's cheap fun in my eyes.
It hit me that I STILL haven't scrounged a large old vise. I've missed out on a couple at auction and let a few gold plated ones go on Craigslist. So, I drug out my Emmert and took stock.
Amazingly, I found a beam on EBay for cheap money yesterday. Hopefully that will easily replace my broken beam. If it doesn't work for me I'll sell it and go back to my initial plan of brazing my broken one back together.
I'm setting up a little work space in our basement at the house. My shop still isn't heated and although the basement isn't really heated either, it's drastically warmer down there than in my shop in the dead of winter. It's also really, really dark. I need to scrounge some lights. Hopefully I'll have the Emmert fixed and operational soon enough, still scrounging for an 'affordable' front cam. I might end up taking measurements off the 3D print I have, redrawing it with all the required draft, creating another 3D print to use as a pattern and casting one out of ductile iron. Then I can machine mating surfaces and I have a vise.
A bit of video on the vise:
We'll see how this pans out.
It was always my intent to have half my shop set up for woods and half for metals. I've concentrated on the woods side over the last couple of years and while I'm not 'done', the majority of equipment is in place and working well enough to limp along as a kinda-sorta-wanna-be-cabinet-shop. I set it up first so that it could be used on the remodel of our bathrooms and kitchen.
My vision is different than what most people see as a metals fab shop. I want to able to machine patterns, cast non-ferrous (mainly bronze) near net shape and machine finished castings, so a small foundry/machine shop is what I'm scheming on.
I've always loved the look of dovetailed infill planes. I've bought some materials and a couple small/cheap tools and I HOPE I can start constructing a dovetailed infill shoulder plane in early January. Once I get my feet wet in building them, I have several smooth planes I designed 12-15 years ago that I'd like to get figured out and maybe actually get started on. Hand filing and peening isn't exciting to document, but it's cheap fun in my eyes.
It hit me that I STILL haven't scrounged a large old vise. I've missed out on a couple at auction and let a few gold plated ones go on Craigslist. So, I drug out my Emmert and took stock.
Amazingly, I found a beam on EBay for cheap money yesterday. Hopefully that will easily replace my broken beam. If it doesn't work for me I'll sell it and go back to my initial plan of brazing my broken one back together.
I'm setting up a little work space in our basement at the house. My shop still isn't heated and although the basement isn't really heated either, it's drastically warmer down there than in my shop in the dead of winter. It's also really, really dark. I need to scrounge some lights. Hopefully I'll have the Emmert fixed and operational soon enough, still scrounging for an 'affordable' front cam. I might end up taking measurements off the 3D print I have, redrawing it with all the required draft, creating another 3D print to use as a pattern and casting one out of ductile iron. Then I can machine mating surfaces and I have a vise.
A bit of video on the vise:
We'll see how this pans out.
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wasfast
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The real Emmert's seem to still bring silly money. I had one of the copies which were around $200 at the time, now $279 like this:
http://www.woodcraft.com/product/128748/woodriver-pattern-makers-vise.aspx
These are SO USEFUL if you need to locate things at strange and compound angles. Hopefully you'll get yours fixed or sell it as is, buy a knockoff and pocket a bunch of dough for more tools
http://www.woodcraft.com/product/128748/woodriver-pattern-makers-vise.aspx
These are SO USEFUL if you need to locate things at strange and compound angles. Hopefully you'll get yours fixed or sell it as is, buy a knockoff and pocket a bunch of dough for more tools
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IowaMercMan
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The real Emmert's seem to still bring silly money. I had one of the copies which were around $200 at the time, now $279 like this:
http://www.woodcraft.com/product/128748/woodriver-pattern-makers-vise.aspx
These are SO USEFUL if you need to locate things at strange and compound angles. Hopefully you'll get yours fixed or sell it as is, buy a knockoff and pocket a bunch of dough for more tools
Emmerts are amazing gizmos. With my back surgeries and 12 broken ribs that still hurt 5 years later, I really need to contort the work rather than my body....I don't move so good anymore......unless there's rhubarb pie involved.
I was looking at getting one of those clones when I bought this Emmert. At that time I think Garret Wade was selling them but it may have been Woodcraft. I do remember they were sold out at that time.
The guy I bought the beam from sent me a message that he had a cam, although the handle is broken off just like in my missing one. He just needs to find it. Hopefully I didn't insult him with my offer. How much is a broken Emmert cam worth anyway? I guessed $25.
The semester has finally wound down to a whimper. I still have a few random bits to grade and some spreadsheets to tweak, but I'll have grades ready to post Monday or Tuesday.
I've been a Swiss Army Knife of sorts at work. I've taught across a wide array of subjects in the last 15 years. From Computer Operating Systems to Robotics to Manual Machining to Cabinetmaking. That was literally a semester teaching assignment for me at one time.
I've recently been given (I don't know that 'given' is the right word, but we'll use it) our CNC courses and the lab responsibility to add to my course load. In return I won't be teaching in such a broad array of topics. I'm strictly Design, 3D CAD and CNC. Quite a bit has changed since I taught a CNC course. I'd never fired up the machines we have now and never used HSMWorks. I didn't really have much time this last semester to dig into the subject, I was overloaded with other subjects. I did manage to monkey around on our newer lathes and mills, got a couple assignment/lab ideas in draft form and dug into some textbooks and YouTube videos for information/inspiration. I'm really excited about having some focus in terms of the courses I teach instead of the breadth I've taught in the past.
All that said, I don't really have much time. I thought I'd do some finish drywall work and get my wife's office moved into our den so she could enjoy some space and I could have her old/small office as my office. That might happen. I planned on making some dovetailed infill shoulder planes.......less likely than the drywall work. I had thought I could weld up the frame for the CNC gantry mill.....not a snowballs chance.
So, to recap: happy, busy me.
I was overjoyed at a package that arrived Friday from a fellow Garage Journal member who also hangs out on Sawmill Creek. My plea for any leads on parts for my Emmert turned into exactly what I needed. Thanks Jim. Much appreciated.
Still need to repair a small sleeve and dig up a setscrew, but it's all minor stuff now. I will have a working/complete vise very shortly.
My New Years resolution last year was to always finish my beer and never leave a donut. What a smashing success that was!
This years resolution: I will attend more Fleamarkets.
Happy New Year everyone.
I've been a Swiss Army Knife of sorts at work. I've taught across a wide array of subjects in the last 15 years. From Computer Operating Systems to Robotics to Manual Machining to Cabinetmaking. That was literally a semester teaching assignment for me at one time.
I've recently been given (I don't know that 'given' is the right word, but we'll use it) our CNC courses and the lab responsibility to add to my course load. In return I won't be teaching in such a broad array of topics. I'm strictly Design, 3D CAD and CNC. Quite a bit has changed since I taught a CNC course. I'd never fired up the machines we have now and never used HSMWorks. I didn't really have much time this last semester to dig into the subject, I was overloaded with other subjects. I did manage to monkey around on our newer lathes and mills, got a couple assignment/lab ideas in draft form and dug into some textbooks and YouTube videos for information/inspiration. I'm really excited about having some focus in terms of the courses I teach instead of the breadth I've taught in the past.
All that said, I don't really have much time. I thought I'd do some finish drywall work and get my wife's office moved into our den so she could enjoy some space and I could have her old/small office as my office. That might happen. I planned on making some dovetailed infill shoulder planes.......less likely than the drywall work. I had thought I could weld up the frame for the CNC gantry mill.....not a snowballs chance.
So, to recap: happy, busy me.
I was overjoyed at a package that arrived Friday from a fellow Garage Journal member who also hangs out on Sawmill Creek. My plea for any leads on parts for my Emmert turned into exactly what I needed. Thanks Jim. Much appreciated.
Still need to repair a small sleeve and dig up a setscrew, but it's all minor stuff now. I will have a working/complete vise very shortly.
My New Years resolution last year was to always finish my beer and never leave a donut. What a smashing success that was!
This years resolution: I will attend more Fleamarkets.
Happy New Year everyone.
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