The roofers are using battery powered circular saws

[PCustoms]

What makes it look like garbage? The fact that it's probably made in China? The fact that it has a battery? The fact that it has plastic? It's it because it's red?

The fact that a vacuum company sold to Bosch that sold to Chevron Ltd makes it look like garbage.

Might not be as bad as I initially thought, as at least Skil and Skilsaw have different markets, but still it's not your father's Skilsaw

 

[Wamsutta]

Looks like offshore garbage clinging to a name that brings nostalgia to the hearts of old men

It does real good on YouTube being compared to its competition. I just don't like the "True Evil" battery name.

 

[scooby074]

What makes it look like garbage? The fact that it's probably made in China? The fact that it has a battery? The fact that it has plastic? It's it because it's red?

Based on appearance alone, i t looks like they just stuck a battery on the *** of a wormdrive like a boil. Wonder what its balance is like.?

 

[RedneckWelder]

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It does real good on YouTube being compared to its competition. I just don't like the "True Evil" battery name.

It says True HVL and of course you’d use it because you don’t actually use any of these tools you talk about

Milwaukee makes a far better saw in that configuration. Because they actually make tools to be used by people who know what the hell they are doing.

 

[neophyte]

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It says True HVL and of course you’d use it because you don’t actually use any of these tools you talk about

Milwaukee makes a far better saw in that configuration. Because they actually make tools to be used by people who know what the hell they are doing.

Chervon, the current owner of the Skil brand, was, and may still be manufacturing tools for Bosch, including the worm drive saws that were sold under the Bosch and Skil brands before Chervon purchased the Skil brand from Bosch.

Milwaukee has manufactured worm drive saws for decades, but I don’t recall them having a major positive reputation for those worm drive saws like Skil had.

Chervon has purchased the Skil “brand” from Bosch, but I can’t tell whether that would have come with engineering knowledge on how to make durable tools for abusive use.
Chervon also owns the Flex brand, and Flex is/was a German manufacturer of industrial tools, that had very high service life specs, and Chervon likely did acquire the engineering knowledge from Flex when it bought the brand.
Whether Chervon applies this knowledge to the new tools has yet to be determined.

The ability to manufacture decent cordless tools is a separate issue, since the battery designs, and motor designs used for cordless tools still seem to be undergoing a lot of evolution.
Chervon was acyually a manufacturer of cordless tools for a number of brands, including Flex, before Chervon purchased the manufacturer, so they at least have a couple decades experience with cordless tool manufacture.

Milwaukee’s owner, TTI, supposedly kept some of the various design and engineering offices of the tool manufacturers it purchased, including AEG in Germany.
I’m not sure whether TTI kept the US design office for Milwaukee power tools.

 

[KnurledNut]

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It says True HVL and of course you’d use it because you don’t actually use any of these tools you talk about

Milwaukee makes a far better saw in that configuration. Because they actually make tools to be used by people who know what the hell they are doing.

AFAIK, Skil is the only worm drive. The others are just rear handle sidewinders.
I use Makita version and it’s a great tool but doesn’t hold a candle to a real worm drive for torque and build quality.

 

[neophyte]

AFAIK, Skil is the only worm drive. The others are just rear handle sidewinders.
I use Makita version and it’s a great tool but doesn’t hold a candle to a real worm drive for torque and build quality.

Yes, most “inline” saws aren’t technically “worm drive” saws.
Makita calls their saw a “Hypoid” saw, and a number of other “inline” saws were also built using a hypoid gear rather than an actual “worm gear”. (Like in an Angle Grinder).
Some of these Hypoid saws still run the gearing in an oil bath though, like the Skil saws, rather than a gear housing filled with grease, like an angle grinder.
Milwaukee does appear to have made at least one saw model that used an actual Worm gear. (Milwaukee 6477-20), and possibly others.

 

[KnurledNut]

Yes, most “inline” saws aren’t technically “worm drive” saws.
Makita calls their saw a “Hypoid” saw, and a number of other “inline” saws were also built using a hypoid gear rather than an actual “worm gear”. (Like in an Angle Grinder).
Some of these Hypoid saws still run the gearing in an oil bath though, like the Skil saws, rather than a gear housing filled with grease, like an angle grinder.
Milwaukee does appear to have made at least one saw model that used an actual Worm gear. (Milwaukee 6477-20), and possibly others.

Guess my post was a little vague. I was speaking specifically of cordless wormdrives. I believe Skil is the only one. Everything else is direct drive with a rear handle.

I have used every model Makita hypoid. My favorite is the original 5077. Its too bad the gear was a common failure in that one. Makita ended up redesigning it to a different tooth pattern and made the parts available to fix it, but it required replacing the mating armature making it cost prohibitive. I cooked one cutting vertical concrete.

If ya want to see a cool tool, check out the old Porter Cable wormdrive belt sanders. Absolute beasts.

 

[M635_Guy]

Other than weight (lighter is always better), I can't think of a thing I don't like about my M18 rear-handle.

 

[Wamsutta]

This guy pretty much says it all for me.