Above 1200 Sq/FT The Salvage Garage
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Wokspaces above 1200 squarefeet.
When I bought it, I figured I was buying parts, so I do not feel bad at all. It has a bunch of parts that I needed on Clark that you can't buy anymore. Once I have a bit more time, I will mess with he engine a bit more. I do not want to waste anymore effort on it this week. When I unload it, I can take the plugs out and see if it is obvious, then I can decide the next step (maybe just mystery oil). The gas tank and Hydraulic tank are near perfect, they are perfect compared to the ones on Clark. Then I have the intake and exhaust manifold that I need for Clark, plus the taller mast and countless other things. In the end I may still be able to make a second Clark, but the real value will be the fact that I don't have to take my current Clark out of service while having rams rebuilt or having to redesign things because I can't make a newer part fit. Just the exhaust system is going to save me a day's work, will be nice to not have that exhaust leak anymore!
On a really good note, the 3 axis Bridgeport has already been upgraded to the new mother board, I am confirming if it is the latest version. I now have a full blueprint to deal with the 2 axis upgrade, they are not identical, but definitely close enough that I can see how things should be. I expect to get that functional in the next week or so, then it has to get listed for sale on eBay. Forward progress is always good, even if it is theoretical. 
Plastikosmd
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Thx for letting us know! I’m glad you got it and I passed for the reason I suspected.
Parts are awesome! I just didn’t need another machine here (wife would have killed me)
Parts are awesome! I just didn’t need another machine here (wife would have killed me)
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Well, your Clark is in a lot better shape than most. I am going to be looking into getting lower gears for the axles, if I could make them super low, you could actually use the transmission. As it stands, 1st gear is too high, especially when on a hill. I am still thinking diesel engine and lower gears would make it almost perfect. Automatic transmission would be the pinnacle, but the way it is build, you just don't have the room to put one in. At least if I decide to do all this, I can use the other chassis and not have to tear down the working forklift.
Plastikosmd
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Maybe an auxiliary transmission like they do in the oliver crawlers?
86turbodsl
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I need my strouty fix man. Cheer me up!
Don’t bother him, he almost has the office done
I am actually freaking out, paperwork is everywhere, I have found almost every document I needed, but numbers are off and it is something my Dad did and we can't figure it out. When he closed a checking account out the cashiers check that he deposited was larger than it was supposed to be, I am still trying to figure out what went on, hopefully the accountant can make sense of it. Then I have a customer that owes us money that I am trying to research so I can explain everything to them, pretty sure it was due to the account that was closed. Then we have payments from a cellular carrier that I can't figure out what they have done. The fools send one lump sum for all the sites and when the amount changes if it isn't obvious then I have to figure out why it happened. The woes of not entering data as you go, as always, it is my fault and I am paying for it now. The majority of everything else has gone fairly well, I am headed home for the night and will try to regroup tomorrow, I am feeling a bit presidential right now....
racer-john
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Care to explain the phrase?
bimmer1980
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A cluster of paperwork.... sounds like a real job...lol
Keep chipping away at it.....
Keep chipping away at it.....
kaymccampbell
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You've got them, you just don't know it. All you need to do is walk out in the woods.
casmurbax
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Found? means you were looking for them or were these in the long list of things in your head that you are constantly looking for?
dr_clyde
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As far as your milling machine saga, I would keep the 30 taper Bport and sell the other two machines ASAP.
That Matsuura is a bomb waiting to go off with the control issues and the other mill is a parts mill at best with the computer not working.
The 30 taper is going to be MILES ahead for CNC work vs that R8. R8 is fine for smaller manual work but an actual toolholder with a pull stud opens up worlds for your machining. That and the machine is complete and working.
That Matsuura is a bomb waiting to go off with the control issues and the other mill is a parts mill at best with the computer not working.
The 30 taper is going to be MILES ahead for CNC work vs that R8. R8 is fine for smaller manual work but an actual toolholder with a pull stud opens up worlds for your machining. That and the machine is complete and working.
The 2 axis BP with the bad computer is going to have all the computer portion replaced and sold as a functioning CNC, they sell on eBay for crazy money and this one is in great shape.
Why would I give up on the Matsuura? I just got it to function with the new controls, still have to integrate the spindle, the tool changer is going to be the hardest part, but I want to try. It isn't like I am expecting it to function like a new HAAS and put out a million parts a day.
After all my research and input from many people, it does look like the 30 taper will be the way to go. It isn't quite as nice as a regular pull stud, it uses a drawbar, but it should work fine for the things I will be doing.
Why would I give up on the Matsuura? I just got it to function with the new controls, still have to integrate the spindle, the tool changer is going to be the hardest part, but I want to try. It isn't like I am expecting it to function like a new HAAS and put out a million parts a day.
After all my research and input from many people, it does look like the 30 taper will be the way to go. It isn't quite as nice as a regular pull stud, it uses a drawbar, but it should work fine for the things I will be doing.
My GF is texting me about an illegal drug deal, she is getting out cash and the person is coming to the house tonight.
Apparently one of our cats has a death sentence without this drug, a drug that is not approved by the FDA, but works almost 100% of the time in every other country so she has gone blackmarket. Hopefully it isn't a sting...
Apparently one of our cats has a death sentence without this drug, a drug that is not approved by the FDA, but works almost 100% of the time in every other country so she has gone blackmarket. Hopefully it isn't a sting...
dr_clyde
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I mean, you do you my dude.
In most shops CNCs have to be working to earn their floor space and once they reach a certain age they start to get EXPENSIVE to keep running. Old computers are hard to find parts for. Not to mention the TIME. You’ve got a million things on your plate that actually can make money and you’re spending time rehabbing a 20+ year old mill for some reason? Just seems to me that you’re always looking for time and space and that machine ***** up both for no real return.
Matsuura makes great iron, but that one needs a lot of attention still.
If you’re having fun and it’s not causing you problems have a ball. But it just doesn’t make sense to me to do that when you’ve got so many irons in the fire that you NEED to do.
To refresh your memory, there is no “old” computer, all the drives (except the actual spindle) and controls are new stuff. I am using it as a learning experience, in fact I have no need for the machine at all, but I do want to understand how to essentially retrofit old iron. The skills I will learn from this project will allow me to build other CNC machines later. I would like to have a nice router table at some point, it just makes sense, at least in my head.
I know that this may come as a shock to the uninformed, but I do not need to make money with anything at the Salvage Garage or the Hill, I have a decent recurring revenue stream that I am able to make things up as I go. Once Dad decides to sell everything, then I will have to make money with what I have, I am a few years away from that, I really can’t wait. I guess you could define my situation similarly to a gentleman farmer, minus the gentleman part.
I know that this may come as a shock to the uninformed, but I do not need to make money with anything at the Salvage Garage or the Hill, I have a decent recurring revenue stream that I am able to make things up as I go. Once Dad decides to sell everything, then I will have to make money with what I have, I am a few years away from that, I really can’t wait. I guess you could define my situation similarly to a gentleman farmer, minus the gentleman part.
dr_clyde
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I know you’ve got a good income stream, but the impression you give me from your posts is that you’re limited on space, time and to a lesser degree funds for “optional” projects.To refresh your memory, there is no “old” computer, all the drives (except the actual spindle) and controls are new stuff. I am using it as a learning experience, in fact I have no need for the machine at all, but I do want to understand how to essentially retrofit old iron. The skills I will learn from this project will allow me to build other CNC machines later. I would like to have a nice router table at some point, it just makes sense, at least in my head.
I know that this may come as a shock to the uninformed, but I do not need to make money with anything at the Salvage Garage or the Hill, I have a decent recurring revenue stream that I am able to make things up as I go. Once Dad decides to sell everything, then I will have to make money with what I have, I am a few years away from that, I really can’t wait. I guess you could define my situation similarly to a gentleman farmer, minus the gentleman part.
You also spend quite a lot of time letting us know how difficult it is for you to keep your shop organized and how hard it is to utilize your time efficiently and effectively.
I admire the dedication and commitment to learning a new skill, especially one that is as difficult and deep as CNC machining. As someone who owns CNCs however, it’s hard enough to learn to use a CNC when the machine is working properly. The challenge of getting an old, non stock retrofitted machine that is essentially obsolete is no small task. Just a single servo drive can cost thousands if you need to replace it.
It just seems to me that with all you’ve got going on the last thing you need is a complex, expensive and difficult to learn project that won’t really benefit you much when it’s done. Spending time on Perk, organizing your stock room, organizing and cleaning the space, making sure your office is setup properly and all that seems like a much better use of your money, time and resources than rehabbing this old mill.
That said, it’s your time, your money and your shop so you do what makes you happy. It’s fun to watch.
The input is valid, I just don't always follow the way that makes sense. I enjoy bitching about things more than I care to admit, so far the Matsuura has a nice space that lines up with the other machines. I got to use it as an excuse to buy Hilman Rollers and then play a bit of the moving game. All of my "projects" are learning lessons, I rarely spend all the money to "enjoy" a finished result, heck, the Blurb was an "all the money" deal that has become the worst way I could have ever spent my money...
I usually only get about a week a month to do my projects, sometimes it is more, sometimes it is less. So far this month, the only thing I really did was drive 12 hours to buy a parts forklift. I did take the trash out yesterday, so that is a plus.
I usually only get about a week a month to do my projects, sometimes it is more, sometimes it is less. So far this month, the only thing I really did was drive 12 hours to buy a parts forklift. I did take the trash out yesterday, so that is a plus.
Allenw
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I have to pick this Utility bed up next week, now I need something to put it on.
Allenw
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I keep saying make a trailer with it and that's probably what I'll do.
That is usually a pretty hot auction, I've noticed things slowing down but I didn't expect it to be as soft as it was.
There are some auger parts that I had the bid on that were passed that I need to see about. I need to repair a screw up and another piece could be paired with another auger I have.
That is usually a pretty hot auction, I've noticed things slowing down but I didn't expect it to be as soft as it was.
There are some auger parts that I had the bid on that were passed that I need to see about. I need to repair a screw up and another piece could be paired with another auger I have.
I did tun into some more issues with the paperwork, I am having trouble reconciling credit card statements, they have a weird way to handle things when they issue a new card after fraud issues (Dad has had three cards in the last year). Of course I just had to give up my card number yesterday, someone got the number and had a field day on instacart.
Once I get that figured out, I should be able to get completely caught up, like current, you know, the way the books should be.
Once I get that figured out, I should be able to get completely caught up, like current, you know, the way the books should be.
