Above 1200 Sq/FT The Salvage Garage

[Strouty]

The tilt rams don't seem like a big deal, but trying to get the main ram out looks like a much bigger job. I am pretty sure I could just replace the top seals and it would be fine for a long time, but..

If I pull the entire ram and have them rebuild everything, it should last for another 40 years. I think the fork carriage would need to come out, then the ram could be tilted forward and lifted out, but it might clear without removing the carriage. I am going to look into things a bit more and see if I can find a removal procedure, my manual is more of a routine maintenance book than actual service manual.

 

[Strouty]

I found another BFF...

BFF on eBay

 

[Strouty]

Between the burnt paint and all the charred wood, it is clear that the BFF was definitely in a building that burned down. Originally I thought that someone trying to do repairs may have caught the hydraulics on fire, but then I had found some charred wood on the front of the engine. Now I have found lots more burnt wood.



These pins might be a lot of fun to remove, unless I get really lucky, most likely have to weld to them, then use hydraulic power to get them out. I would need another 1 1/2” of clearance to pound them through, so I will have to pull them instead. Should be no problem, right????

 

[Strouty]

Also got to test the new soldering station, seems to work well, I need to check the heat with an IR thermal tester. Seems to heat up in seconds, goes to 900 degrees and it uses a standard T-12 style iron tips. Will be nice to have a portable unit. Also found a glue gun that runs of the batteries too, that hasn’t arrived yet. I am amazed Milwaukee hasn’t made a glue gun yet, but I got tired of waiting.

 

[casmurbax]

I found another BFF...

BFF on eBay

nope, you wouldn't dare.
Thats more than a days drive from you.
The description is all wrong for you even to consider it.
“In great working and cosmetic condition. Meter reads 06499 at time of listing”.
It's just basically not a good fit for you.

 

[Strouty]

Are you sure?

I was more looking at the price, I think mine was a better deal overall, even with the work I will have to do to it.

 

[rharman]

Hey @Strouty - I tagged you in a post in the joke thread.

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/threads/joke-thread.333276/post-10539229

Here is the pic....

 

[Strouty]

That is too funny.

I have paperwork to get done, I did get a lot checked off the list yesterday, but I got slowed down by three different tower customers and a rogue bill from an oil delivery company. I handled the oil delivery issue and started the process for two of the customers, now that stuff is added to my list, except I don't have control, I am now waiting for them. About half my list is just **** that I need to follow up on so that someone else can do something so that I can get something done. I am going to start a new list for sure, it is way too cluttered with all that "waiting for" ****.

 

[Prospecter]

That is too funny.

I have paperwork to get done, I did get a lot checked off the list yesterday, but I got slowed down by three different tower customers and a rogue bill from an oil delivery company. I handled the oil delivery issue and started the process for two of the customers, now that stuff is added to my list, except I don't have control, I am now waiting for them. About half my list is just **** that I need to follow up on so that someone else can do something so that I can get something done. I am going to start a new list for sure, it is way too cluttered with all that "waiting for" ****.

Good plan. For me, the best part of lists is turning obscure work into things I can cross off so I can see progress. (Of course my lists are now electronic, so really I'm just deleting them. But still. . . .)

 

[Mark_17]

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[bowtiguy]

I love tuning into this thread, it makes my bad days at work seam more productive.

 

[Strouty]

I am glad my endeavors make you feel better, just wish it wasn't because mine are worse...

Headed to the Salvage Garage, I had to go a few different directions, but the JIC caps and plugs I ordered arrived today, so I can use those for all the hydraulic projects. I kept running out, so I ordered an excessive quantity of them, should be just about right, 300 caps and 300 plugs of various sizes, will split them between the two shops, I am sure I will need more at some point, you always seem to need more of one size, but when I go to order them, I never remember what that size is.

 

[86turbodsl]

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Oh, only $57,000 ... obviously you guys don't know how Strouty operates... that much would buy at least 4-5 forklifts.

 

[86turbodsl]

I am glad my endeavors make you feel better, just wish it wasn't because mine are worse...

Headed to the Salvage Garage, I had to go a few different directions, but the JIC caps and plugs I ordered arrived today, so I can use those for all the hydraulic projects. I kept running out, so I ordered an excessive quantity of them, should be just about right, 300 caps and 300 plugs of various sizes, will split them between the two shops, I am sure I will need more at some point, you always seem to need more of one size, but when I go to order them, I never remember what that size is.

I really need to order some of those too. I see them used all the time on Farmcraft101. They appear very handy.

 

[Strouty]

I have a Buddy coming to look at the smaller Hyster P60 rough terrain forklift, I think he is going to buy it. All I need to do is get it running, I know that it did not want to run after I swapped to the in frame fuel tank, so I am going to start with swapping back to the boat tank and try to get it running again. If that doesn't work, then I am left with spark, so I may have to do some points cleaning.

 

[Mark_17]

Oh, only $57,000 ... obviously you guys don't know how Strouty operates... that much would buy at least 4-5 forklifts.

You and strouty are the pot and kettle. You'd rather put yourselves in an early grave than buy a new vehicle.

But until that day, I'm going to continue reading your daily shenanigans.

 

[Strouty]

If that is the case, maybe you should just read and not post???

 

[Strouty]

The Hyster P60 had terrible gas in the original tank, I was pretty sure that was what it was. I am not convinced that the fuel pump is working properly, I had to put the fuel tank on the ROPS to keep fuel flowing. The carb is also in need of a rebuild, it won't stay running unless the choke is almost totally closed.

 

[86turbodsl]

You and strouty are the pot and kettle. You'd rather put yourselves in an early grave than buy a new vehicle.

But until that day, I'm going to continue reading your daily shenanigans.

Brand new vehicles are a TERRIBLE investment. Change my mind.

 

[Strouty]

Plugs and caps include #4 through #16 sizes, pretty rare to go over that for the equipment I deal with. I bought two 300 piece kits, was kind of hopeful that they would be bagged based on that, but they are all lumped together by size and quantity based on 600 pieces. Oh well, I just need to setup a place to put them now.

 

[86turbodsl]

That is a LOT of fittings. Do they have smaller kits? Or are you installing them on multiple projects at once?

 

[Strouty]

They do have smaller kits, I went for maximum value, it was 82 cents per piece, I think the smaller kits put you at about a dollar a piece. I tend to use them one lots of projects and it seems that only half of them come back to the shop, they end up staying on a ram or hose and then I need them for another project. Hopefully this will keep things going for a while.

I also broke down and ordered a bigger electric wire stripper, I found more wire and I think this batch will offer enough profit to pay for the wire stripper just in the extra that I will get from stripping the wire, not the initial wire itself. I always seem to have wire, so in the future it will just make things easier. I also figure if I end up making a nicer one later, this one will still have value on the resale market.

 

[bimmer1980]

Brand new vehicles are a TERRIBLE investment. Change my mind.

I'm not arguing with the fact that new vehicles depreciate quickly in the first year or two.

My though process and recommendation is to get into a vehicle that is reliable and serves your purpose with our a lot of need for repairs.....

On a work trip, I just returned a Kia that was making a thumping sound and got a Pacifica to replace it... Lol

Regardless, it's all interesting to watch...

 

[Monza Harry]

Strouty, I'm kind of in agreement about a DD, but not necessarily a brand new ride, how about a lease return (finding the right one will be a challenge) and then buy the extended warranty. You don't take the really big hit but you get ~similar perks. Maybe just a cheap [I know cheap today YMMV] Gas sipper for you, GF, paper work, small hand tools, [oh and the drone] that sort of thing, you know to take the load off of your shoulders and a project truck/Burb or two. Just a thought [trying to help not pile on I assure you] Harry

 

[Strouty]

I understand (in my best Charlie Sheen voice).

Seriously though, I am not going to buy anything new or newer, that would actually add to my stress level right now. This year is going to be a financial **** show for most of it, I have projects that have to be completed and that is where I want to put my money. I have spent most of the money to buy my parts already, so it is just about doing it. This month shouldn't be as bad as the last couple months, I just need to get to it, even chipping away at things is going to be progress. If the temps get back to the 50s, I can drive the 3500 without doing almost anything to it. I mean I am driving it during the day already, just don't dare leave it outside and try to start it at my house, I don't think that would end well. Just enjoy the journey.

 

[Strouty]

Another thing that is good, I do plan on selling a few things, hopefully some of them will actually bring in some decent money, but at this point it will be more about getting rid of things than making money.

 

[walrus]

We have all tried to get Strouty to buy a new vehicle so he has something decent to drive, he won't bite I suggested a Tundra, maybe a Sequoia its kind of like a 'burb He likes his old beaters, I can understand that.

Why work on a fork truck when you need a daily driver? Pick one and finish it, I'd throw the volvo in the scrap heap, way to expensive to fix. Only way to own a Volvo is buy new, trade every time warranty is up.

 

[Strouty]

I already have too much invested in the Volvo to scrap it. If I can get it functional, it will be a decent daily. As far as the forklift repair, if I don't get started on the BFF it will never be useful and the Hyster P60 might end up leaving, so I think that is a good reason to do a bit of work on it.

 

[Strouty]

Have a few more things to do at the Hill, then headed to the Salvage Garage to meet up with the Buddy that is interested in the forklift. If he does want it, I might come back to the Hill and get Perk ready to go. The would be one less thing in the yard and some dollars in my pocket. If he doesn't take it, I am going to flush the fuel tank and get it so it will run properly. I really do need to start working on some of these forklifts so I can get them listed. I am also pretty sure I will be parting a couple of them out and scrapping what is left, they are a bit beyond reasonable repair costs and effort. Daylight is becoming more available and that is always motivating, if I can get a few more degrees and a few less flakes then it will be near perfect.

 

[Prospecter]

We've definitely had some nice warm weather. Warm enough to even do inside projects with the garage doors open!

As far as the DD debates. . . Smart people think about money. That's a whole lot different than worrying about money. You are a smart guy. Your DDs seem to keep you going. You're willing to hire someone to help you out as needed. Depreciation really hurts, and you avoid that. Keep on Truckin'

 

[Allenw]

Feel your pain I'm on day three of plan Bb finding more wrong as I go along but gaining. If I finish in time tonight I'll pull a cylinder and get it repaired before I work anymore ground. Rain and snow possible tonight and tomorrow.

 

[shakenfake]

I’m praying your friend buys that forklift.

 

[Strouty]

My Buddy showed up to look at the forklift, with his Dad, Brother, Wife, two kids, and a dog. I am 95% sure he is not going to buy it as I think his Dad thought it was not only too big, but also that it was not a $10k forklift for $3k. I am very glad that I at least made him come look at it as he kept saying he would take it no matter what even without seeing it other than photos.

 

[shakenfake]

 

[Strouty]

Unfortunate for me.

 

[Strouty]

Apparently I don't have snap ring pliers at the Salvage Garage, not too easy to get them off in tight quarters, I might be able to get the ones on the mast off, but the inner ones in the cab are boxed in and no real way to get them without three hands. I am going to do what I can today, then I will grab my snap ring pliers from the Hill. I may even have a game plan for how to get them out, probably not one that works...

 

[Strouty]

Thankfully the pin holding the forks on was actually two pieces that meet in the middle of the carriage, otherwise I don't think I would have been able to get the forks off. Luckily I am not a small guy, nothing about this was less than heavy, forks are off, going to chain the carriage up off the ground, the mast is already chained so it can't tilt forward any further. The big ram is going to be interesting to get out, I may have to talk with the local Clark dealership. I am half tempted to buy the newer manual and see how much has changed, it would at least give me an idea of what the process is. I was hopeful that the one on eBay would have a year, but the seller wasn't sure. Oldest manual I can find is from 1997 and mine is a 1979. I suspect that many of the components are identical, just upgrades to engine and transmission.

Now that I have isolated the tilt, it is super clear that the main ram needs to be rebuilt as well.

 

[bimmer1980]

Might be worth it to go check out my thread on the Clark forklift main ram rebuild. I show how I removed the carriage and main ram on a smaller Clark forklift.

Basically, disconnect the lift chains. Then activate the up lift and the stage mast will lift up and leave the carriage on the ground. Then back way from the carriage.

Then it leaves access to the main mast. At this point, the moveable mast needs to be blocked up. Then the cylinder is unbolted from the bottom and the top connection and it will come out.

It may vary on your, but that's the general gist of it...

 

[Strouty]

I don't think this one is bolted in, looks like it has a big snap ring at the top, then the bottom looks like a large pan for the bottom of the ram to sit in. I am not digging into it right now, I am going to need to bust out the pressure washer, probably have to bring at least one of my IBC ice cubes inside to start the thawing process. I have seen your thread and I am sure there are some similarities. You can see some bolts, but I think those hold the ram together versus holding it down.

I go the first ram loose, the pins were not a big deal to get out, at least not like I expected them to be. They are mounted in spherical ends, never seen that on a forklift. The bad ram is worse than expected, it may end up needing a new tube as well as the rod along with some other parts. It has a lot of water in it.

I got all the snap rings out except one in the tough spot, tomorrow I should have both those rams out and ready to drop off Monday. I used 4 of my 600 JIC caps/plugs, so $125 per plug, going to have to use several more to get that cost down.

 

[Strouty]

The rods were super heavy, won't be moving them by hand again. I am going to pick up some food for dinner, then head home. I have plenty to do tomorrow, so there will be some more updates.