Its all about load. Load calcs should be done to be sure. You can have lots of sub panels if there is little load in all of them but sounds like you came up with something that works .
Above 1200 Sq/FT The Salvage Garage
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Wokspaces above 1200 squarefeet.
Like I told them, I am more worried about the future and potential loads versus just basing it on current ones and upgrading to the 400 amp service is the way to go for sure, then we are completely set for just about anything.
Slow start this morning, going to the Hill first, have a bit of paperwork to do, then I need to mess with one of the forklifts (one that sold), it has an ignition issue and I am going to have to replace the ignition switch and redo a couple wires so that it doesn't have anymore issues. I hope to have it gone sometime next week, one more piece in the puzzle.
Slow start this morning, going to the Hill first, have a bit of paperwork to do, then I need to mess with one of the forklifts (one that sold), it has an ignition issue and I am going to have to replace the ignition switch and redo a couple wires so that it doesn't have anymore issues. I hope to have it gone sometime next week, one more piece in the puzzle.
I am getting sidetracked, again. Need to leave in 30 minutes and haven't done what needs to be done, going to have to slam things back into the front of the shop to keep the rain off them, then pull them back out at a later time to try and finish cleanup. I made a touch of progress, but need a full day or ten to make real headway. One bite at a time...
I actually tried to finish something, of course I ran into a wall, need to order a 90 degree USB 3.0 type an adapter to make things work. So I just wasted a bit of time trying to make it work some other way, just not going to happen. Have to set that project aside until next Wednesday when the parts will show up. I still can’t believe that Amazon prime’s free 2 day shipping takes 5 days, but whatever.
I did separate out a bunch of the cables so they won’t be as mixed up next time around.
Forgot to post the picture of the SG before I left, here is where things are, neater than it was, but still a mess.
I did separate out a bunch of the cables so they won’t be as mixed up next time around.
Forgot to post the picture of the SG before I left, here is where things are, neater than it was, but still a mess.
Hey Strouty, I don't post often, but I follow this thread everyday. I for one have really missed your posts and am happy to see you posting again. I just read your new thread in Gen. Garage Discussion, I am appalled at those criticizing you. Why can't people just go along for the ride. I for one love reading about your adventures. You get so much done in so many areas of interest. As many of us, I am in awe of how much you know about so many things, and how much you do accomplish.
I think the criticizers should go back to page one and make a list of all the things you have accomplished for your self and others, (including Chuck). Too bad your Dad couldn't see his way to build you a large shop and sit back to see how much you would accomplish if you weren't in two different spaces, neither of which lends itself to the organization you seek. If you could just have enough space to actually set up the store room you've wanted for years, a lot of your frustration would go away.
Anyway I hope you'll continue sharing your life and times with those of us who enjoy and learn from the things you are involved in.
I think you learned a lot from your dad back in the day. I didn't get that and instead of following my dreams got married to a girl who helped me grow up. Still with her 55 years later and still in love. But never got a chance to follow the kind of dreams I had as a kid. When we started we had nothing, and I told her if we needed anything done, we would have to do it ourselves, so I learned a lot and to some extent followed my dreams that way.
Sounds like you have a great GF. Hang in there hopefully you'll be able to get things figured out with you dad without loosing too much. I just really think you need a much bigger shop and property where you could consolidate your things and efforts. Best of luck! Please keep posting.
I think the criticizers should go back to page one and make a list of all the things you have accomplished for your self and others, (including Chuck). Too bad your Dad couldn't see his way to build you a large shop and sit back to see how much you would accomplish if you weren't in two different spaces, neither of which lends itself to the organization you seek. If you could just have enough space to actually set up the store room you've wanted for years, a lot of your frustration would go away.
Anyway I hope you'll continue sharing your life and times with those of us who enjoy and learn from the things you are involved in.
I think you learned a lot from your dad back in the day. I didn't get that and instead of following my dreams got married to a girl who helped me grow up. Still with her 55 years later and still in love. But never got a chance to follow the kind of dreams I had as a kid. When we started we had nothing, and I told her if we needed anything done, we would have to do it ourselves, so I learned a lot and to some extent followed my dreams that way.
Sounds like you have a great GF. Hang in there hopefully you'll be able to get things figured out with you dad without loosing too much. I just really think you need a much bigger shop and property where you could consolidate your things and efforts. Best of luck! Please keep posting.
Thanks for that Retctddvr, sounds like you did alright and sometimes a Dad can be a PITA when it comes to input into personal life. I was given opportunities that most wouldn’t have, most of them were in some way, forced upon me, so I am not sure that they were all a “good” opportunity. As for that other thread, I think most of the criticism was coming from people who misunderstood what I was asking. I think people thought I wanted to “clean up” and “get organized” by getting rid of lots of stuff. While I do intend to get rid of things as I organize (things that will become apparent), my main goal is to organize the things that I have so they can be found when I need them and have an easy way to add new things to the mix without messing that system up. Everyone wants a like with like system or an alphabetically organized system, but for now I just need to put stuff away and be able to find it later without having to rely solely on my memory. I am really close to having that part figured out, I did have to go to someone that handles computer code and databases, but we have a reasonable solution that looks like it will do what I need with room to improve as I figure out what I like and don’t like about my storage system.
While having a larger space (especially in one place) would be nice, it isn’t in the cards for now. Eventually I would like to build a large shop at the bottom of the Hill so that winter access is much easier and safer. Long term goals or lottery dream.
I hope to be posting more often, I had a lot of things going on that sucked the wind out of me. If I am being honest, I really didn’t handle it very well. I feel that I took too much introspective time versus dealing with what was in front of me. I am trying to just move forward, but it is tough to not berate myself a bit. Hopefully I can get my act together, I have several projects that need to be worked on sooner rather than later, some of them intermingle and others are stand alone. Glad to take everyone along for the ride, some days will be better than others, not much I can do about that.
While having a larger space (especially in one place) would be nice, it isn’t in the cards for now. Eventually I would like to build a large shop at the bottom of the Hill so that winter access is much easier and safer. Long term goals or lottery dream.
I hope to be posting more often, I had a lot of things going on that sucked the wind out of me. If I am being honest, I really didn’t handle it very well. I feel that I took too much introspective time versus dealing with what was in front of me. I am trying to just move forward, but it is tough to not berate myself a bit. Hopefully I can get my act together, I have several projects that need to be worked on sooner rather than later, some of them intermingle and others are stand alone. Glad to take everyone along for the ride, some days will be better than others, not much I can do about that.
Lou's Garage
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Keep your chin up and keep plugging along. Celebrate your successes and don't dwell on the "failures." I've had to prioritize my priorities for years leaving plenty of things I'd love to accomplish undone. I never thought that, upon retirement, I would still have to run my life off a calendar but that seems to be the way we live today.
Lou Manglass
Lou Manglass
The main issue that I have is there are a lot of things that I have unfinished that are at the mercy of someone else, then there are projects that I do complete but they have no outward visibility so it looks like I did absolutely nothing. I think seeing some sort of progress is the only way for me to keep my spirits up and the last three or four months have been almost exclusively non visible progress. The only thing I actually feel like culminated in a "win" was getting all the tower lights upgraded, that is something tangible and every time I see the lights I know that it is done and was worth the effort I put in. I hope to have tangible results over this winter in the office, having files put away instead of in boxes and being able to find things will be far better than the current struggle.
I am going to get some lunch, then the plan is to do computer/paperwork for the rest of the day. I want to try and get caught up next week, so this will jumpstart things. Tomorrow I would like to clean out the main bay of the shop at the Hill so that I can get Perk inside. In theory I have my Buddy coming over Monday night to look it over before I take it in for an inspection and I wanted to have it inside. We will see if I can keep the blinders on and get that done.
Small intangible things still count counts as a win. That is why I love white boards. Big tasks get broken into component parts. Many of them are stupid little things that no one will ever see. However, I can cross them off the board when they are done.
Prospecter
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Random progress is still progress. Just keep swimming.
Today was the auction, I tried to buy things, really, I tried. Ended up with the cutest little sandblast cabinet ever made, it can go with the collection of non working larger ones…
My stuff sold overall well, so I am happy about that. Nothing else to really report, haven’t been doing a lot, at least not on the shop front. Going to register Perk tomorrow, still haven't gotten the inspection done, maybe next week, regardless I need it registered before I can get the inspection actually done anyways.
My stuff sold overall well, so I am happy about that. Nothing else to really report, haven’t been doing a lot, at least not on the shop front. Going to register Perk tomorrow, still haven't gotten the inspection done, maybe next week, regardless I need it registered before I can get the inspection actually done anyways.
Prospecter
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Sounds like you sold more than you bought. Net gain in space.
I saw your Oct 2nd post and the QR post also. I never have got caught up on this post or the last one. I may be forgetting or misrembering things. Do you have a long term goal for the shops? You likely could be more productive if specialized in only forklifts or suburbans or whatever, although I don't think that's what you want to do.
QR
Depending your device you should be able to make QR codes that link to a file or folder on your local device storage or even a networked drive or computer. My understanding is dynamic QR codes are simply normal QR codes that will be redirected by the website. If you don't have control of the website that's redirecting that could be a bad idea. I like the idea of linking to a folder rather than an individual file. You could also base a system off of a roll of sequentially numbered barcode labels. Otherwise if you already have a traditional printer you can get 8.5 x 11 sheets of labels. The typical cheaper mailing papery ones probably aren't what you want, they come in waterproof and oil resistant varieties. These can be more expensive per label than a dedicated label printer but you don't need the dedicated label printer. Do you want to inventory everything or just categorize what is where?
https://stackoverflow.com/questions...des-to-locate-and-play-a-locally-stored-video
Oct 2nd
I too like to rely on my memory when possible. Temporary labels seem to help me, sometimes if I'm not sure if something will stay somewhere long term I will label with chalk, pencil or dry erase marker depending the writing surface. I try to keep similar sized stuff together for applications. Maybe a drawer of small stuff, a corner of long straight pieces and a pallet of larger stuff. That way I usually find something if I don't already know where it is. The tricky thing for me is when something is used with multiple applications but doesn't belong with general hardware. Everyone's brain can rationalize irrational ideas. Continually adding storage is not a solution, it can help give room to think and breathe but it hasn't been helpful if I continue to expand. Also I think I procrastinate because I don't want to run out of projects even though that will never happen.
The guy in this youtube video has a different way of thinking about labeling, thinking and organizing. He also mentions how he does his QR codes. I don't agree with some of his ideas. We use those stupid little round stickers (3:28) at work the residue is a pain to remove.
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My next "quick" project is to setup storage for the DVDs and Blu Rays, Now that everything is consolidated into one place it is such a mess. I have an idea involving some unistrut and some ground rods to make racks that utilize the wall to actually make up a good bit of the "shelf". I can make it quicker out of wood, but then it won't be as reusable, besides unistrut and ground rods just seems to fit my personality better.
casmurbax
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wehat are you using to protect all that equipment from spikes or lightning strikes?
Probably not enough protection, but I have surge protector strips. I know when we got a surge/strike a couple years back, everything that was plugged into them survived and the modem and router that were plugged directly into an outlet had to be replaced. I did get new surge protectors after that, just in case. On this topic, I do have some sort of whole house type unit from a tower site, I haven't done any research into it, but it could be something for the future.
My quick project turned into exactly what everyone thought (I know you were thinking it), I am about five hours in, more money than expected, have to get more parts, probably have another five hours before it will be completed. At least I didn't order shelving from Amazon and just wait until next week...
Also, a second forklift starter, meaning a different forklift, is having issues as well. All connections are clean and tight, but it acts like something is loose or dirty. Another brand new (earlier this year) gear reduction starter with all brand new wiring and connections. If this keeps happening, I may have to switch back to regular starters, I was always told that if you can get the gear reduction, get it. Maybe not.
Dual battery system and we used 2/0 cables. The batteries aren’t the issue either.
Dual battery system and we used 2/0 cables. The batteries aren’t the issue either.
Old Man Roger
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Can you turn it over by hand? Maybe a hydro lock issue?
It takes four or five key attempts and then it starts, after that it doesn't seem to have an issue until it sits for days, then it does the same thing. Each time you turn the key it bumps the starter then stops, so it is more than a just a solenoid click, isn't like it is really cold or the engine is really big, guess I could plug it in and see if that changes anything. No matter what, there is something wrong as two batteries, a new starter, and all new copper wire should make for a nice starting rig.
I may see if adding another ground to the starter itself does anything. We replaced the wires, but used factory locations and the starter does have some sealant on it, you would think the bolts would be enough contact, but grounds are always funny thing. In my head, if it was a ground issue, it wouldn't go away that easily. Just seems like internal to the solenoid or starter as once it has been started it is fine until it isn't again. I don't have a lot of time to mess with it today, helping move some things with my Brother, then setting propane tanks at the camp.
Old Man Roger
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Next time it happens see if you can turn the engine over by hand. If not, you might have a cylinder filled with fuel or coolant.
kent_323is
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Can you use a jumper cable to add a quick ground and see if that makes a difference? Recently on my old bobcat, it had worked just fine one day, and then the next day I went to use it over lunch break, and it acted like a dead battery or bad solenoid. After charging the battery and no improvement, and then using jumper cables with a known good battery, starter/solenoid worked, so then I checked the battery connections, and those were severely corroded at the connection on the post. A quick shine up with a wire brush, and life was good. It was so weird because it had just worked the day before.
Check the easy stuff first, as that's more likely the problem. I would not assume that the starter is bad, as that's not really how a starter goes bad.
Hopefully it's an easy fix!
Check the easy stuff first, as that's more likely the problem. I would not assume that the starter is bad, as that's not really how a starter goes bad.
Hopefully it's an easy fix!
Old Man Roger
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Ok this is totally theoretical.lol I’m may be completely wrong, I’m just thinking outside the box.
Let’s say for this scenario fuel has filled a cylinder. When you attempt to start it, the high torque starter puts a good amount of pressure on the assumed hydro locked cylinder.
With the pressure from the attempted start, a small amount of assumed fuel slowly seeps by the rings. After a few attempted starts, either valve starts to open, the hydrolock would be released. Now the engine can freely turn over.
So let’s now theorize that it’s a head gasket leaking coolant into a cylinder.
In this scenario, maybe the coolant only leaks into the cylinder very slowly, after the engine has been up to operating temperature, and there is pressure in the cooling system.
Now after the attempted start, the coolant is slowly being pushed back into the cooling system the same way it entered. After a few attempts to start the engine, enough coolant has been pushed back out of the cylinder that either valve opens. The hydrolock would be released.
Again, I‘m throwing pasta at the wall and seeing if it sticks..lol
An easy test would be, the next time it won’t turn over using the starter, just put a breaker bar on the crank pulley/harmonic balancer bolt, and see if you can turn the engine over by hand. Just remember to try to turn it in the right direction.
One full rotation would answer the question. Now if it’s not turning by hand, pull out the plugs and crank her over with the starter. You will see gas or coolant shooting out of a cylinder.
Old Man Roger
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Or you might just have a bad ground or switch.lol
Old Man Roger
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In that case, make sure you got 1.21 gigawatts of power.
Allenw
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Your no start issue sounds like a mystery to me. The fact that it starts after you get it started is a heck of a curve ball.
The only problem I've had with hydro locking was a small engine and it turned until it didn't with the pull rope.
The only problem I've had with hydro locking was a small engine and it turned until it didn't with the pull rope.
bimmer1980
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Also, poor electrical connections tend to heat up with current. When that happens, resistance goes up and makes it worse.
Another easy thing to try is check for warm or hot connections after you run into the cranking issue.
Good to hear of progress!
Another easy thing to try is check for warm or hot connections after you run into the cranking issue.
Good to hear of progress!
Spareparts
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I got a small meter that shows the amp draw of the starter, just stick it over the wire,
might be a place to start.
might be a place to start.
All this old tech is killing me. The points ignition system on this forklift, the one that ran and hasn’t been touched or modified in any way, now it won’t make spark at all. I thought I understood how it worked, but it has an external resistor, so I went looking for info. Well now I am more confused than when I started. It looks like it was setup to have power from the ignition on one side of the coil, then it goes through the resistor connecting to the distributor. That seems counter intuitive as I thought the resistor was there to drop the 12 volts down and the distributor was send signal via a break in the ground circuit? I tested the coil and it is within the ranges, chasing wires now, but nothing makes sense, especial the fact that I know I drove it to this location. The ignition switch is bad and that was where I was starting, but now I am upside down and confused.
Sand (or file) the mating surface of the points and then make sure the air gap is within spec. Electrical arcing and corrosion build-up on the surface of the points can cause them to not actually make electric contact (even though they look like they are touching) which will give you a "no spark" condition. This is VERY common with points ignition systems. Cleaning the points was a very common thing back when cars used points ignition. If you don't have the spec for the air gap, usually the thickness of a cardboard matchbook cover will get you close enough.
Good luck.