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jollygreengiant

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Now everything is a skating rink. I thought I had some ice melt at the Salvage Garage, but nope. I guess I am going to have to get some for the area around the front and out to the Poopsicle.

As much as I b*tch about the snow I'd infinitely rather it be cold and snowy all winter than having to deal with this mother 🤬 ice! Everywhere that was flat snowpack is now a sheet of pure ice, and with a nice skiff of snow on top is now incredibly slick. I've already wiped out once, and almost a couple more times. Trying to blow snow is a real treat because as soon as the tractor gets any resistance it just starts spinning on the ice. And it doesn't look like I'm going to get the weather to apply salt until maybe Saturday. 🤬 do I hate ice!
 
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xtremek

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I know the feeling. Fortunately, we had enough warm weather that pretty much everything has melted. Just a few shallow puddles left, and they break through when you walk on them. Good luck and stay safe?
 
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Strouty

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Been a productive couple weeks, we were working on the 3 axis Bridgeport EZ-Trak, problem was the switching from 3 axis mode to either 2 axis or full manual mode left the Z axis with no digital read out, made no sense as it worked fine with 3 axis mode. Of course we weren't thinking outside the box, the motor that ran the Z axis was using an encoder to get reading and only once you switched to 2 axis or manual mode did the glass scale do anything. Once we figured that out, we used another scale to test it and it did work, then we took apart the original scale and found that it was just installed incorrectly. Fixed that and boom everything worked like expected. At this point we had to reinstall everything in a permanent fashion, once it was back together, now the computer would not switch to 2 axis or manual mode no matter what we tried to do. After a few hours of doing essentially the same thing over and over I decided to get some help. Enlisted a paid tech )over the phone) to walk through things and after an hour we got it sorted. I am not sure we would have ever figured it out, plus I am not sure why it was ever able to swap between 3 axis and 2 axis before, it had to see a full 4.5" of down travel on the Z axis before it would unlock the software portion of things, we were getting 4.48495. Adjust the top travel stop and it was moving 4.9996 and the computer was ok with that. It was a $280 tech support session, but I do have another hour to use, I am sure that will be handy when we get to dealing with the other one (2 axis only).

After that we were feeling brave and dove back into the Matsuura, had to figure out how to reset the password, in the process it turned out that we had set the password to nothing, completely blank, just hit enter. Go figure, at least we could get into the admin mode now. We neatened up some wiring, replaced a crappy monitor that had issues with the screen scrambling randomly, then started trying to figure out the VFD and spindle wiring. I think we have it sorted and next week we are going to attempt to get that part wired up and integrated directly. The tougher part is going to be two things, I have to figure out the specs on the spindle and the "resolver" (not encoder), I may not be able to use it as is, it may need to be reworked. The umbrella tool changer is going to need to know where the spindle is in order to function properly, so figuring out the spindle is actually pretty major. I figure we will at least be able to try things out by this spring, it might only be with one tool or with manual tooling swaps, but I think it will make chips. Kind of excited about learning more about it, I enjoy when my hard work starts to actually feel like it was worth it.
 

TwoBytes

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I am going to get salted sand tomorrow, but the sander is down, so it is going to be a bit more "hands on". The temps are not going to be any better for a while either. The 32 for today’s high was at like 2 AM last night.

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We've got similar temperatures here.
1000008185.pngOh, wait, yours are in Fahrenheit!

Doh!
 

bimmer1980

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Its exciting when a machine tool that has been sitting for too long is finally fired up and close to operational!!!
I had similar feelings after finally moving my Bridgeport into the shop, connecting to power, realizing the head needed rebuilt, rebuilding it (bearings bushings, etc) and then getting it into a semi permanent position and connected to power.

Enjoy the accomplishment and keep moving forward!!
 
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Strouty

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We have the Matsuura doing all the basic functions using the Masso controller, of course in my research I have no realized that the MAsso controls do not have the ability to rigid tap and I did not realize that. I am still not sure if the Matsuura will be able to accomplish rigid tapping anyways, I need to figure that out before jumping ship to a Linux CNC control. At this point I am still trying to understand the VFD/Spindle/Masso correlation, to dial in the RPMs so they matched what we were calling for the spindle sees basically 1HZ per 100 RPMS and the tag calls for a low of 30Hz and a high of 137HZ. The VFD asks for a minimum and maximum Hz and we have it set from zero to 134 ish and that brought the RPMs to within 50 at 6000. I just don't understand why we can't set the minimum to 30 and the max to 137 and get proper readings. Even setting the minimum to 30, the motor was still getting less than that according to the VFD. I don't want to hurt the VFD or the Spindle motor, so I have to get it figured out.
 
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Strouty

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Ran into our first real snag on the Matsuura, we sussed out all the limits switches and air lines for the tool changer, then we went into testing them. Got the umbrella to go up and down, the spindle lock to engage, the chuck release to actuate, but the tool changer would not move side to side. The air valve actually went into pressure relief almost instantly, we figured out that the ram had water in it, must have been from when someone pressured washed the unit as the air lines were disconnected. It turned into a bit of a project to get the ram out, had to hang the tool changer off a rafter so we could access the panel and get the ram out. I am going to pull it apart and look it over, most likely it will be fine without much effort, but I don't want to have to pull things apart again. I think it was actually a good thing as it was pretty dirty in places you could not really get to without removing it, so I get to spruce it up a bit.


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We boaters have so many fine quotations. . .

There is nothing half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats.

If a man must be obsessed with something, I suppose a boat is as good as anything, perhaps a bit better than most.

Sailing- The fine art of slowly going nowhere at great expense.

and. . .

A boat is a hole in the water into which you throw money.

Don't get me wrong. I love boating. Always have. It is expensive though. :coffee:
 
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bimmer1980

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Ah... I see. I did notice the tower frame on top, but thought it was random storage of stuff.

Well, this makes a bit more sense now...!

Will you be able to use this for your own purposes of renting tower space? I.e
Separate from your dad's / family business?
 
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Strouty

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Honestly, I just bought it because, well just because. It appears to be 100 foot tower, very rugged solid rod design and the trailer has manual outriggers on the back section. The building is about 20’ long and is real integrated into the frame of the trailer. I am not sure what I am going to do with it, probably let it sit for a few years before I make up my mind…. ;)

I have a month to go and get it, kind of buried in some mud, essentially the belly of the trailer is on the ground. The place I bought it from is a heavy wrecker yard and the guy wanted an extra $1000 to get it out, I decided that some sweat equity was a better option.
 
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Strouty

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I can see a quick flip if you connect with the right Amateur radio club. They would be the hit of Field Day or one hell of a setup for emergency operations after a weather event. Is that like three 33' sections that have to be handled to connect together or are they already connected and hinged?
Unfortunately this is not that, it appears it is design for “semi permanent” installation. You need a crane to set it up completely and it needs guy wires. I think it is going to be a bunch of cool parts and a custom trailer build.
 
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Strouty

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Also wanted to update, I already have two people interested in the tower trailer, one is in Connecticut, the other in Texas. Since I will have to transport it, I would prefer to deal with the guy in CT, plus he is interested in a couple other things that I have, so it could become a package deal. I have to get the thing back to the Salvage Garage first...
 

scooterbum46

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Also wanted to update, I already have two people interested in the tower trailer, one is in Connecticut, the other in Texas.
I was pretty sure that I had a guy here ready to buy, he had something called "stacked Laser 500's" to put on it... not sure what he uses this stuff for, said it would go well with his "10 gallon boots" , so I guess he's a fisherman or something......
 
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Strouty

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I found an image of one fully operational, it makes sense to me now as there were lots of angle irons in a rack under the side of the building. You can see them in the picture even though it isn't a great picture. Still will need guy wires with some sort of temporary anchors, you can faintly make them out in the picture.

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kent_323is

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Also wanted to update, I already have two people interested in the tower trailer, one is in Connecticut, the other in Texas. Since I will have to transport it, I would prefer to deal with the guy in CT, plus he is interested in a couple other things that I have, so it could become a package deal. I have to get the thing back to the Salvage Garage first...
Flip it and flip it quickly!!! You don't need more work!

I figured you might be trolling us with the original boat picture, my first reaction matched what some of the initial replies were...

The tower trailer makes more sense for your interests. I hope you got it super cheap, as it looks like a LOT of work!
 
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Strouty

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Kent, there will be some work, if I sell it for the money it commands, it has to be in good shape as that is all those people see. I will have to go over the trailer and make sure it passes mechanically for DOT. The building needs a good cleanup and the trailer will need to be painted in spots. I will also have to get the hydraulics running and make sure the power distribution and HVAC systems work as intended. If I do all this, it will be worth it and me doing a lot of this will be contingent on a deposit or agreement. The two interested parties are people that I have known for 30 years and I trust them.
 
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Strouty

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I have been making a mess. I picked up a bunch of random stuff from a place that was closing down, probably going to get more stuff, but I keep telling myself that I don't need more stuff! I went to bed at midnight, woke up at 3AM and could not go back to sleep, I guess it was luck, it started snowing and now they say we have a bit more coming at 6AM. Anyways, I said screw it and I am up at the Hill with the truck in the garage loaded with randomness, but stuff I didn't want to get covered in snow. Every box has a partially open top or it is just an open top tote and the snow had already covered things. I thought I had a furniture blanket, but nope, I miss my suburban, a lot, no worries about that stuff. The ride up here got most of the snow to blow away and I just see some frost on things, probably should have just gone directly to the Salvage Garage last night, but I was just too tired, of course now I would probably still be sleeping had I done that. :(
 
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