bimmer1980
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Pics of the random stuff?? Living vicariously here... I've been on good behavior to not buy much lately...lol
Above 1200 Sq/FT The Salvage Garage
- Thread starter Strouty
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Wokspaces above 1200 squarefeet.
86turbodsl
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Rich man's sport.We boaters have so many fine quotations. . .
There is nothing half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats.
If a man must be obsessed with something, I suppose a boat is as good as anything, perhaps a bit better than most.
Sailing- The fine art of slowly going nowhere at great expense.
and. . .
A boat is a hole in the water into which you throw money.
Don't get me wrong. I love boating. Always have. It is expensive though.
86turbodsl
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Are you in competition with Matt on Diesel Creek? His end of year "look at all the projects i have" videos usually put a good damper on my projects for the year...I have been making a mess. I picked up a bunch of random stuff from a place that was closing down, probably going to get more stuff, but I keep telling myself that I don't need more stuff! I went to bed at midnight, woke up at 3AM and could not go back to sleep, I guess it was luck, it started snowing and now they say we have a bit more coming at 6AM. Anyways, I said screw it and I am up at the Hill with the truck in the garage loaded with randomness, but stuff I didn't want to get covered in snow. Every box has a partially open top or it is just an open top tote and the snow had already covered things. I thought I had a furniture blanket, but nope, I miss my suburban, a lot, no worries about that stuff. The ride up here got most of the snow to blow away and I just see some frost on things, probably should have just gone directly to the Salvage Garage last night, but I was just too tired, of course now I would probably still be sleeping had I done that.
M.Brane
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casmurbax
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86turbodsl
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I got your 50hp idler right here.... can you pay shipping???
You'd need a 400 amp service to make that thing peak and every light in the shop would dim
bimmer1980
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We don't ask "why" in this thread... lol
I'm still wanting to see pics of the lastest acquisition of goodies!
Fyi, my 7.5 hp American rotary will run my mill, lathe and iron worker with out issue. I technically should have a larger size to run the lathe or the iron worker, but it seems to do fine for my needs.
I'm still wanting to see pics of the lastest acquisition of goodies!
Fyi, my 7.5 hp American rotary will run my mill, lathe and iron worker with out issue. I technically should have a larger size to run the lathe or the iron worker, but it seems to do fine for my needs.
dr_clyde
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Rotary phase converters are much more affordable for larger motors.
They also have the cool ability to run more than one machine/motor simultaneously. I know a lot of shops that have the converter outside and just run a dedicated 3 phase circuit to which they can hook up all the machines. You're limited by the total amount of HP you need to start at once, but once a motor is running in the circuit, it acts as additional support for the circuit. I knew an old timer that needed to start all the smaller machines in his building before he could get the bigger stamping press to roll over and start, as it needed the other motors in the circuit to support the added phase. These machines/motors act as idlers in the generated circuit, but have the advantage of being installed in machines and not as just motors mounted to nothing.
macgyver37
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Yep, at my old home shop I would have to turn on the little lathe and mill to get the big lathe to start. Once it was going I could turn the others off.
The inrush current will still brown out my shop when starting, at least I am pretty sure it will, should allow me to run a 25HP motor plus smaller ones at the same time if needed. I was more interested in the fact that it is designed with a nice outdoor enclosure. Friday I am going to pickup another CNC milling center and it appears the Matsuura is going away. I will be parting it out as much as possible before it heads to the big junkyard in the sky.
The propane plants I've used VFDs on are always programmed for soft start. Motor spins up slowly, less in rush. But only one motor so.... The last plant I set up we used a Toshiba I bought from Stulz in Portland, its running a 20hp pump, the VFD was 2300 bucks? I'm sure online could be way cheaper
dr_clyde
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So, you're scrapping the Matsuura? What happened? Major board or servo amp fail?
What are you replacing it with?
It wasn’t a decision taken lightly, but I stumbled on a HAAS VF-2 that is more than a decade newer, takes 40 taper tooling, is fully enclosed, and has a chip auger. I know it needs work, but it was almost scrap price and they can load it on my trailer. Another learning curve, but I think it will be for the better.
86turbodsl
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What tooling does the Matsuura take?
dr_clyde
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The Haas will be half the machine that Matsuura was, but I think you made the right call.
40 taper spindle is worth a LOT. Haas is a cheap chevy and the Matsuura is more Lexus, but the age difference plus USA support is also valuable.
I bought the Matsuura as parts anyways and the intent was to learn about how everything functioned with the newer controls. I know I still have a ton to learn, but salvaging all the controls and motors will save me money building up a rugged CNC router/laser combo.
The Matsuura was going to make a mess no matter what I did to try and contain the coolant, the HAAS should be a LOT better at that. I do have a bunch of the BT 35 tooling and that has a pretty decent sell through on eBay. The Matsuura cost me time and money, but so does going to school and in the end I will have a noice Masso control unit, with drivers and motors, plus a nice WEG VFD that will run a 7.5 HP spindle. That was essentially what I paid for when I dropped the $3500 on it a few years ago. Now the HAAS needs the Vector Drive repaired and I plan on attempting to fix that myself as well, been going down the rabbit hole with common issues and fixes for the HAAS units, so I am prepared. I am only spending a grand on the VF-2, so I have some breathing room, at least wallet wise.
The Matsuura was going to make a mess no matter what I did to try and contain the coolant, the HAAS should be a LOT better at that. I do have a bunch of the BT 35 tooling and that has a pretty decent sell through on eBay. The Matsuura cost me time and money, but so does going to school and in the end I will have a noice Masso control unit, with drivers and motors, plus a nice WEG VFD that will run a 7.5 HP spindle. That was essentially what I paid for when I dropped the $3500 on it a few years ago. Now the HAAS needs the Vector Drive repaired and I plan on attempting to fix that myself as well, been going down the rabbit hole with common issues and fixes for the HAAS units, so I am prepared. I am only spending a grand on the VF-2, so I have some breathing room, at least wallet wise.
In the next couple months I will really be cleaning things up and actually being productive, I feel like I have gotten slightly better so far. I will also be trying to post more about what is actually going on, this winter has been a tougher than usual one, we started about a month early and it has been a lot colder for a lot longer than usual.
Got the HAAS to the Salvage Garage, going to attempt to get it inside, might have to tarp it until next week. There is a bit of an iceberg in front of the door, been melting off the roof and then freezing as it hits the ground. I think I break up the ice with the forks, maybe not, will find out soon.
xtremek
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New toy, cool.
86turbodsl
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Good you got it in. It's snowing here now
We are getting some starting in a few hours, the mill wasn’t as bad as I thought it was going to be once it was inside, but it is still going to make things difficult. I have to get the phase converter tomorrow and I would have liked to use the inside forklift to unload it, not sure that I can, but the outside forklift will be a pain too. Somehow I will figure it out.
shakenfake
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if you view the WatchWesWork channel, a machine that’s “scrap price” probably is that price for a reason lmao
Hopefully you can find another one to purchase and rob parts off of.
Hopefully you can find another one to purchase and rob parts off of.
scooterbum46
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Strouty, meet AVE; AVE meet Strouty.
I am headed to the Salvage Garage, need to clean up snow there, then I am off to pickup a pallet of plastic bins and the rotary phase converter. It looks like next week is a mess too, as much as 8" now on Monday, a little bit on Wednesday, and more plowable snow on Friday. I still hate snow.
Jayman17
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Maybe you should add that last sentence to your sig line? 
Bins, have to go back to pickup the rest of the stuff tomorrow. I can’t be trusted to go alone buying things.
I was only there for some of these bins, somehow it turned into two pallets of bins, five or six (I don’t even remember) specialty carts for the bins, and a surface grinder. I am not even sure how that happened? Of course they have no good way to load it, so a pallet jack and a winch will be it for now. My back will thank me later.
I was only there for some of these bins, somehow it turned into two pallets of bins, five or six (I don’t even remember) specialty carts for the bins, and a surface grinder. I am not even sure how that happened? Of course they have no good way to load it, so a pallet jack and a winch will be it for now. My back will thank me later.
The racking is really nice modular stuff, basically an erector set for adults, I am glad I bought it now. I will have to do a bit of disassembly to store the majority of it, but they have all kinds of brackets and parts to make some really interesting things. This stuff is made by Creform, but it appears that 80/20 has a line that competes with it as well. I am not sure this particular setup fits my workflow, but it is giving me some ideas.
