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The never ending "project"
It started on fine spring day with obtaining construction quotes. That ended on the same day with the first quote.

I did not need any more information then that to know the only way this shed was going to see the light of day was DYI.

... honey have you seen my chain saw?

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And the chipper, have you seen that anywhere dear?
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Oh sure cut what you want but don't forget to split and stack what you cut

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Oh and I need the stump plucker as well honey. Could you tell me where you put it the last time you cleaned up?

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The trusses I deferred to a crane and some guys that had done it once or twice before.

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Though the plans called for sheer sheething on just the outside of the front and rear walls, figured since the price dropped on OSB I would do a lil more.
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Really wanted 3 phase power for the shop but was afraid it would be cost prohibitive but figured a call to the power company wouldn't cost much. Intial quote from them was over $5,000. Final was $500.00. YUP five-hundred! Honey grab the shovels we got some trenching to do! Woo Hoo the shed gets three phase!
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With power comes Air Conditioning that calls for insulation, walls got R-19 and for the ceiling R-30. Where the ceiling drops will be the game room-gym it receives a 3 ton unit and the shop gets a 5 ton unit, both 3 phase.
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With insulation comes slap stapler, with which comes blood leaking from point of impact son of a &#$!@ that's gonna leave a mark!
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Insullation done, time for more OSB don ya know.
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The side walls get outlets spaced at 4 foot and are single phase side by side of 3 phase. Never know what will end up where and need what for power.
 
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My shoulders ache just looking at all those dry wall seams! Thats why I'm going with steel on the inside.:)
 

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how tall are outside walls? What is the proper name/style for those trusses? Looks great!!
 
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Merkava as hholmberg stated, the reason for OSB v. plywood was cost, a diff of ten dollars per sheet. Note that code and plans only called for sheething of the front and rear walls w/osb (15/32 for the front and 3/8 for the rear). Everything else (skinning the outside of both side and all interior walls with 13/32 material under 5/8 rock well exceeded code and concerns for movement.

Additionally all walls were blocked at every 4 feet so all panels are also edge nailed. Though I used 10d nails on the exterior, all interior sheathing at was screwed at 3 inches on edge and 6 inches in the field.
 
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Really wanted 3 phase power for the shop but was afraid it would be cost prohibitive but figured a call to the power company wouldn't cost much. Intial quote from them was over $5,000. Final was $500.00. YUP five-hundred!

Inquiring minds want to know :confused: How did you get to 500?

BTW, if you call that a shed, I'd like to see a picture of your house. :bounce:
 
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pretty nice build what are you planning on doing in there?

Kind of a lil bit of everything. Primary things will be auto restoration and iron works (will be installing a brick forge for black smithing as well as I am looking for an iron worker, round about 65 ton). Right now we are running air lines for the compressors. Should be done Tuesday. Running 1 1/4 header with 3/4" drops. Could not find an electric pipe threader for rent, so cutting and threading the 1 1/4 by hand has delayed things a bit.

Since the last pic I have one set of cabinets done and that set is four - 8' x 4' x 2' cabinets side by side 6’ off of the floor. That equates to one fourth of what needs to be done.

In addition there is a 1000 lb trolly chain hoist that is in but pending paint. That will mirror the car lift. When the lift is installed that is. Those pics will be up most likely Tuesday when the air-lines are done.

Still have brick and trim that is needing to done but those need to wait for the bathroom to be completed.

Working on it on weekends and evenings and still it takes time to get ‘er done.
 
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Really wanted 3 phase power for the shop but was afraid it would be cost prohibitive but figured a call to the power company wouldn't cost much. Intial quote from them was over $5,000. Final was $500.00. YUP five-hundred!

Inquiring minds want to know :confused: How did you get to 500?

BTW, if you call that a shed, I'd like to see a picture of your house. :bounce:

Well obviously the desire for three phase was solely driven by the greed of power, well there I was standing behind the pump house (after a few beers) gazing up at the power pole that services my house. My eyes followed the power lines to the next pole on top of which sat two transformers, assuming this meant that my neighbor had what I wanted (3 ph) I figure the guy on the phone on my first call just did not know how close my property was to an already existing three phase power service, least that is my guess. After all I am not one to argue that I should pay more.

HA Ha my house? Thats funny! The house is the wifes, the shop is mine. Oh and yes size does matter! (house 2000 sf, shop 2400 sf.)
 
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That's one hell of a shed...shop...garage...mancave.

Why thank you sir. Wait till the 9' pool table and 2 - 42" flat screens are in. Kegerator of course is (was) the first tool installed, well second only to the tool boxes and fork lift, welders, torches, ... well you know.
 
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The front with doors and lights.
Found that though I am real happy with the insulated door panels they seam to be allergic to forklifts. You would think that this would have been in the operators manual somewhere.

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First set of cabinets. Next set goes to the left with a full work bench with drawers and doors across the wall.
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The chain hoist, cabinets and air line. Still need to get that hoist painted.
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One of eight air drops. The header is 1 1/4 with 3/4 drops.
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Utility shelf which will hold larger items and one air storage tank
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Looks pretty good. Just a couple things I thought I'd mention.

I was under the impression galvanize airline was a big no-no?

Secondly, it's too late now but I'm curious why you didn't space the 1.25" mainline off the wall a little farther, maybe use one more block(2x4?) behind it? This would of allowed the drop to fit behind the mainline and saved you the cost of 3 extra 3/4" elbows/close *******/time where you saddled the mainline.
 
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At first my plan was black pipe but the pipe yard had no 1 1/4 in black so wala galvanized.

Galvanized not a big no no, (only big no no I am aware of is PVC) there are concerns with the galvanized coating flecking of into the air tools over time. But the system will be equipped with a refrigerated air dryer, pre filter and after filter rendering the air bone dry. Dry air = no corrosion. There will also be point of use filters to protect my tools.

The compressor was connected to galvanized pipe for 50 years without filters and or dryer and without a problem so I figure with the filters and all, I will be long dead before it is a problem

Considered many options on the drops, 1. run header in the attic, run drops behind main, decided on this as it is easier to connect the drops and wanted everything tucked as close to the wall as possible. The extra cost was not a concern (added 50 bucks to the project)

The blocking in place is due only to the unions, they needed the 3/4 spacer to be accessible. Eventually the 3/4 will be swapped out with unistrut. the material used was what I had on hand
 

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This is a georgeous shop!!! I absolutely love the front area seperated and ...GARDEN doors!! Wow. Can you take some more pics to give us the scope of the two areas from the inside?

BTW - what are you using the front area for? Looks like it'd be great for a showroom for completed rods!!!! Or for a man's room!!
 

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Why the did you put in the two small doors? Not hating just curious.

I'm planning on a build of about the same size. Was going to go with a metal building, but looking at yours is is making me have lustfull thoughts. :drool: :drool: :evil: Any way you can guesstimate what it cost you to build this man cave of yours? Pm me if want to keep the cost off the board. And if you don't want to disclose I fully understand that too.

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Why the did you put in the two small doors? Not hating just curious.

I'm planning on a build of about the same size. Was going to go with a metal building, but looking at yours is is making me have lustfull thoughts. :drool: :drool: :evil: Any way you can guesstimate what it cost you to build this man cave of yours? Pm me if want to keep the cost off the board. And if you don't want to disclose I fully understand that too.

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Ah the tale of the 2 doors, you are asking about the rollups? Knowing that the planning commission easily destroys the best-laid plans of man, those doors were initially planned for ten footers. Then the plans went in for approval. The county (code) mandated 3 foot of sheer between all door openings, on top of that they mandated 15 foot of easement between shop and house, well there goes the wash bay and rv parking with full hook-ups to the south side and my ten footers. Not wanting to give on the width of the center door I gave in on the two sides. All and all they work for the boat, forklift, jeep and tractors. Had I the space, width wise, I would have stuck to the 10 footers and built 45 x 60, hell for that matter 100 x 100 lol. (read I do not like those doors, almost framed them out for high set windows and an additional man door) But all and all all, I am pleased and I am real glad I went with stick.

Initially I actually got quotes from two metal building outfits + the stick contractor. The metal came in at 75,000 avg. but that was with insulation and some stucco. The stick came in at 99,000 (that was the deal breaker) for a bare bones building unfinished inside, single phase 110 and no AC, no dividing wall, just four walls and since I had to build next to the house I wanted it to look like the house and not a metal building. So I settled on building it myself.

So how much??????

Cost? jeez at what point do I stop counting uh hum (is she looking) (Oops here she comes, Say how about those dodgers???) Honestly I stopped counting at 82,000, but that is counting, from the splitter, (beer) backhoe, (beer) and chipper (beer) rental to down and remove the trees to (beer) final paint and everything in-(beer) -between. This does not include (beer) material for air (beer) lines, cabinets, (beer) shelving, (beer) chain hoist. But that should give you an idea. On top of that materials were at there peak pre building recession price. Oh did I mention Band-Aids (beer)? Oh yea there were Band-Aids, loooooots of (beer) Band-Aids. scuse me but for some reason I got a need for a beer...
 
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This is a georgeous shop!!! I absolutely love the front area seperated and ...GARDEN doors!! Wow. Can you take some more pics to give us the scope of the two areas from the inside?

BTW - what are you using the front area for? Looks like it'd be great for a showroom for completed rods!!!! Or for a man's room!!
That is actually the back of the building. In there is the kegerator, gym, dart game, soon to be 9' pool table and horseshoe pits just outside with the bbq.

Those pics gotta wait for the window and door casing + baseboards and flooring. Soon as I get those under way I will be posting them.

Thank you all for comments, they are very much appreciated.
 
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One thing I am really glad I did was the OSB under the 5/8 sheet rock. Cant count how many times I have racked something heavy into the a wall that should have left a huge hole and all I got was I hint of a mark, plus kinda can screw or attach anything anywhere. The strength behind the rock was well worth the effort of every friggen stinking screw, god I hated those screws (better holding then 8D nails, shot one panel with gun loaded with both 8D and 10D, transitioned immediately to screws) still hate'en them screws Thousands and thousands of pointy a** screws dang things don’t lay down in your hand like nails they just stay in a mercifulness porcupine ball of sharp a** points!
 
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I'd guess about 40 cases of Beer + material

Cases?!? Oh that is some funny, .....er kegs it was, well how to say it was a long project, had to keep the help happy ya know. After all you get what you pay for, RIGHT?
 
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