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The toolbox with the strange smell

rothko

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Hi Again

The tool box I was discussing a while back is now in my garage.Possibly the best box I'll ever own but really it's got to go.Very down about that. That smell of 'gone off' car wax is something I can't live with.

Lots of ideas here but nothing worked,I tried the lot.
I know it wouldn't bother some people.

What to do ?

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bit of car wax smell wouldnt bother me

Me neither, when fresh. Apparently the gone off smell is something more disgusting though, judging from his last descriptions. :D

Shame to hear you've not managed to shift it. If it's survived all of the methods suggested, that appears to be digging its heels in..
 
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rothko

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Hi Yer

Car wax smell that's ok, but this is something else! It seems to be contained in the molecular structure of the paintwork and NEVER stops building up when you shut the lid down.Horrible old carwax/vomit smell.

It really is a super box though.I think it's what you call a road box,BIG,26'' wide but tall and deep and HEAVY.A lot of the interior is like new.12 drawers!!

Sick or what!
 

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Do you have any tools in the box?
If so; Do you have any "older" Craftsman screwdrivers?

I've heard some people say their handles give off a bad smell.
 

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+1 for craftsman/husky/any screwdrivers that use that same plastic causing the smell. I believe they are acetate handles, they stink when they de-gas. I'll bet you money that's what it is. Old wax can be stripped off with a clay bar, I've also never heard of old wax smelling, I found a bottle of 20+ year old car wax that was my dads, was still fine.
 

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If you think it’s from the paintwork, you might try sealing it with a paint sealant.
 

DWise

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Try wiping the whole box inside and out with a rag soaked in vinagar. You may smell vinagar for a day or two but it will disapate.
 

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Have you tried a citrus based cleaner? That ought to take off anything that's not paint, and the orange smell is probably 100x better than what's going on now.
 

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Sounds horrible! I have an old red Husky box (made by Waterloo or Beach or whoever) that also has a smell every time I open the top lid but it smells good, like really good. I bought it (barely) used from a gay couple so it probably is some nice perfume/cologne or something.

Sometimes I open the lid just to take a sniff. Is that weird?
 

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Sounds horrible! I have an old red Husky box (made by Waterloo or Beach or whoever) that also has a smell every time I open the top lid but it smells good, like really good. I bought it (barely) used from a gay couple so it probably is some nice perfume/cologne or something.

Sometimes I open the lid just to take a sniff. Is that weird?

Not weird--it's FABulous. :supergay:

OP, you might try a kennel product called "Odor Mute." The only thing is, it's made for organic odors, but it's worth a try as it is effective for things like cat pee.
 

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Lemon pledge...

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rothko

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Hi Folk

You really are a good lot! really.Still hangin' in there.Thanks for the continued support.:bowdown:

Mat be I could contact NASA ,and they could fly it out into space.Y'know one of those research rockets.That just keep going.We're talkin' a one way deal here.

Naahh,couldn't do that to the poor box.

Problem is,none of these very kind suggestions work ,of even get near to solving anything.

Any scientists (preferably mad) out there who know about this kind of odour absorption stuff..............No I didn't think there would be.

You have given me a renewed hope by all your suggestons.

OK ,we know it's only a tool box,but that's what hobbies are all about.Diversion for a while from the real issues of life.........and there's plenty of those.

Red tool box anybody?

Thanks guys,keep 'em comin.

ROTHKO
 

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Here is a question Im not sure has been asked but, what does it have for drawer liners if any? I know a lot of the older snap on boxes Ive come across have some makeshift drawer liners in them by the time they are on someones lawn in a yard sale. could this be playing into it? I have a hard time believing metal will hold a smell like that. Also have you tried taking the bottom drawer out? maybe a mouse got in and died in there? Beyond that Id get the can of gasoline out.
 
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How about just packing it full of crushed charcoal and letting it sit in the sun for a few months? Does the sun shine in the UK?
 

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Rothko, is it possible for you to post up the label or ingredients of the "Gone Off" car wax. I'm having trouble finding it by searching.

I think you may be addressing this issue only partly correct. When it comes to removing odors a few factors need to be defined, if it bacterial/organic the vinegar then baking soda and charcoal would've removed it. However, truly long lasting odor of this nature need more time to work than just a few minutes scrub and wipe. Even though I don't know the composition of the polish you're referring to, I don't think your issue is one that needs disinfecting.

I do think it's a surfactant issue, which needs to be broken down. Mineral spirits (if not yet tried) might be a good step in breaking down the wax - especially if it's silicone based. If it's not a silicone-based wax, I have a feeling that warm water with a cup of simple green or APC will take off the wax, just as it would on an automobile.
 

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I've got some boxes that smell like barf when you open them. They are different make boxes, so now you guys have me wondering if it's the screwdriver handles.

It's easy enough to confirm. Just smell your screwdriver handles.

Many screwdriver handles, especially clear or translucent ones, are made of CAB (cellulose acetate butyrate). Over time, products made of CAB resin can deteriorate in two ways:

One is the resin breaking down and forming an acetic acid (vinegar) odor. That usually produces a white residue or bloom on the surface of screwdriver handles.

The other--and worst--is that the breakdown of the resin produces butyric acid. Butyric acid is a byproduct of anaerobic (without air) fermentation of certain types of animal fats and is also what gives vomit its distinctive odor.

Manufacturers of CAB resins have addressed, but not completely prevented, the problem by changing the resin formula or changing to another product entirely.

Nothing you can do will prevent either type of breakdown or remove the odor once it starts, short of disposing the offending object. Leaving stinky screwdrivers in open air instead of in a closed toolbox will help a little, since the odor no longer concentrates in a closed space, but the only real solution is to replace them.

Craftsman screwdrivers from the 1970s and 1980s are prone to the problem, as are some Snap-On black handles from the same era, and worst of all--for the vomit smell--are Xcelite screwdrivers of that era, but it can happen to any brand of CAB handles under the right (or wrong) conditions.
 

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You could do what some people here consider "restoration" (quotes because it usually seems to be inflicted on boxes that don't need it at all).

That is, if you really think it's the paint, and not grease in the slides/bearings, or something. It would be a shame to spend hours painting it, and have it keep stinking.

If you live near a large body of water, you could try submerging it, off the edge of a dock or something, for a few days or something. Would probably rust a bit and need a good drying and lubing, but get a real good soak. Obviously a bad idea, but, if you're at your wit's end?
 
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If you live near a large body of water, you could try submerging it, off the edge of a dock or something, for a few days or something. Would probably rust a bit and need a good drying and lubing, but get a real good soak.

If it's the scent coming from the wax compound that'd do no good.
 

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Is there a safe place you can leave it outside for a few days.?
Preferably with the drawers removed.
 

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If it's the scent coming from the wax compound that'd do no good.

.....it really doesn't sound like wax, to me.

But it's just an idea, depending on what it is.

To me it sounds like grease on the drawer mechanisms. Or maybe a spill that got behind the drawers or something.

I'd take simple green or something to it. Maybe acetone or naptha.
 

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Do you have any tools in the box?
If so; Do you have any "older" Craftsman screwdrivers?

I've heard some people say their handles give off a bad smell.

I have noticed the screwdriver smell. Most of them are about 40+ yrs old. At one point recently, i thought my cat pee'd in that drawer, but checked the liner and it was fine.

I have wiped my boxes down with lemon pledge... mostly because I love that smell.

Perhaps it's the smell of the manufacturers lubricant? This may sound odd, but here goes... Sniff your slides...
 

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Have you considered the possibility that something crawled in there and died? don't know if you've removed the drawers to check but that would be the first thing I looked for - then again I live in the woods so I have a lot of critters near me.
 

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...I try to avoid contact with a box if it smells bad. :lol:

Seriously though, you got a real bummer on your hands. Best of luck to you.
 

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I would try fantastic with bleach household cleaner. Let is soak and scrub it. As mentioned pull all the drawers out
or clrorinated brake clean and lots of it
Or try the none clrorinated, but be careful it softens paint.
Why not leave the lid open?
 

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...I try to avoid contact with a box if it smells bad. :lol:

Seriously though, you got a real bummer on your hands. Best of luck to you.

always woft check before getting your nose into a new box. Especially before you let it live in your home
 

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I will guess it is old leather car care that must of leaked somewhere in your box...that stuff smells like **** when it gets old...I have a bunch of Grigots and the leather treatment, as well as the under chassis cleaner smells
 
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