The vintage Blackhawk Thread

[Oldtuleguy]

Round extension and no Indian head on sockets, that's one of the last wood box sets

 

[four.cycle]

Blackhawk No. 6 set

Blackhawk socket sets in wood boxes.

Blackhawk at International Tool Catalog Library

 

[3baygarage]

Timely post four.cycle as I found this 4422 wrench today. Research is saying Ford Model T flywheel cap screws. At first it looked broken until I looked again. Pretty neat, designed for clearance.

 

[3baygarage]

Pretty sure OTG, and maybe some others posted this before.

Here is a 34999 3/8” drive (open gear) “Dual Purpose Mechanical Ratchet Wrench ” with “Lock-On Drive”. It has 1/4” female sq. drive on the back.

18 tooth count
6-3/8” long

Finally found it listed in the 1939 catalog at archive.org. According to the catalog, there’s also a 1/4 by 1/4 version which I was unaware of.

The patent 1927844 pertains to the drive square’s detent plunger aka lock button.

Edit: the 34999 part number was recycled for the common Blackhawk round heads made by NB.



From 1939 Cat. (No. 239), archive.org

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Interestingly the same mechanism found in the little craftsman open gear ratchet

 

[3baygarage]

They sure are very similar, whereas say Snap-On and Cornwell have levers on the sides of the open gear models. Who knows, this Bkackhawk rat was long before the 1955 aquisition, but maybe NB had something to do with manufacturing, seeing as how we know the Craftsman is a BE code anyway.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Blackhawk has been alluded to as the actual maker of the bubble ratchet. Could they have been involved in the little craftsman as well?

 

[3baygarage]

Too hard to say, because BE is typically connected to New Britain. I don’t know of the patent for either of these ratchets, as the patent # on my Blackhawk references the detent lock as I mentioned above. Who knows.

I do know one thing, Blackhawk or someone supplied the same tool to Bendix for Stromberg Carb set, as posted by CRTDI back in 2016:

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/threads/the-vintage-blackhawk-thread.127364/post-6004024

 

[Oldtuleguy]

That was a spectacular set. Have not heard from crtdi in a bit.

 

[3baygarage]

That was a spectacular set. Have not heard from crtdi in a bit.

I know. Hope he’s ok.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Yup. He always posted the nicest stuff!

 

[ranger08]

i gave the no 6 set a clean, amazed how good the sockets came up with a wipe of WD40, like their advertising at the time it does appear they are rust proof

all sockets were stamped blackhawk made in usa except the largest one which had the arrowhead logo, may of been left over inventory when filling the set



also had writing in top left of inside of lid, maybe a price?

 

[3baygarage]

Very nice!

 

[Smokeshow69]

I guess I’ll just leave this here.

 

[don long]

A side view would be much better so we can know which one it is. I'm thinking that there is about 4 different styles of that cart

 

[thehorse13]

A side view would be much better so we can know which one it is. I'm thinking that there is about 4 different styles of that cart

I know of at least 2.

 

[don long]

I don't think I've ever seen the smaller cart with the press in the center of the unit??

 

[Smokeshow69]

Ok I’ll quit teasing you all. Lots of surface rust but is actually really solid. I’ve never actually seen one in person. I picked this up yesterday at a swap meet BMW and I attended yesterday. Only Blackhawk piece I found but I think it was a good one?

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Nice! Hard one to find.

 

[Smokeshow69]

Nice! Hard one to find.

Yup, I was pretty excited to find it. I hadn’t even seen the sticker yet but when I saw the red with the black stripes I knew what it was

 

[thehorse13]

I don't think I've ever seen the smaller cart with the press in the center of the unit??

You've seen one now. SmokeShow69 picked one that has been stripped of all of the attachments.

 

[Smokeshow69]

I wish it hadnt been stripped of all it's attachments. My wife thinks it looks amazing and is trying to find a spot for it inside the house. Who am I to argue?

 

[don long]

Yep I've seen one now. Congratulations Smokeshow69

 

[Private Lugnutz]

all sockets were stamped blackhawk made in usa except the largest one which had the arrowhead logo, may of been left over inventory when filling the set

That fits perfectly with the transition period I talked about in my first reply. Nice job cleaning it up without ruining its authenticity.

My wife thinks it looks amazing and is trying to find a spot for it inside the house.

Wherever cocktails are served to guests will do just fine! Not kidding. Liquor bottles inside, snifters and tumblers and shot glasses on top. And, given its condition, I would not hesitate to go glossy black with glass surfaces inside and top. That emblem will really pop!

 

[thehorse13]

I would have a very hard time leaving this as is given the current condition. All I keep thinking about is laying down a fresh coat of paint and adding the crisp black triple lines on this.

 

[Smokeshow69]

I would have a very hard time leaving this as is given the current condition. All I keep thinking about is laying down a fresh coat of paint and adding the crisp black triple lines on this.

Oh totally. It would look amazing restored for sure! I’ve got quite a few projects ahead of it but I’m certainly open to someone buying it from me and restoring it! I would also be up for trading it for a lower Blackhawk roller.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Does the missus know you're so anxious to trade away her new bar cart?

 

[MR.X]

Oh totally. It would look amazing restored for sure! I’ve got quite a few projects ahead of it but I’m certainly open to someone buying it from me and restoring it! I would also be up for trading it for a lower Blackhawk roller.

Smoke, I think I posted this on one of the Blackhawk threads before...from an Airbnb we stayed at on Lake Michigan. Though this isn't a Blackhawk it's also from Wisconsin with it's roots in a hand grinder company.

 

[Smokeshow69]

Smoke, I think I posted this on one of the Blackhawk threads before...from an Airbnb we stayed at on Lake Michigan. Though this isn't a Blackhawk it's also from Wisconsin with it's roots in a hand grinder company.

Ha ha that’s totally what I had in mind! Butcher block top and I am contemplating making a wood shelf insert for it in the middle cavity

 

[bmwrd0]

Where that mine, I would mount my 6" shaper to the top.

 

[ranger08]

im after a first or second generation 9/16 and a 25/32 socket to complete the no 6 set if anyone has a spare? haha

 

[NYBODYMAN]

I grabbed this Blackhawk 1 1/4 ton floor jack (along with a few other goodies) this morning at an estate sale. Not sure of its vintage although I'm sure it's not that old.

 

[Smokeshow69]

I grabbed this Blackhawk 1 1/4 ton floor jack (along with a few other goodies) this morning at an estate sale. Not sure of its vintage although I'm sure it's not that old.

It’s not as old as most items on this thread but still a good user. Please post that amazing grinder on the delta page!

 

[NYBODYMAN]

Being a USA model, any idea when it's from?

And I already posted on the Vintage Forum. I didn't know there was a Delta page.

It’s not as old as most items on this thread but still a good user. Please post that amazing grinder on the delta page

 

[Mintgrun]

I didn't know there was a Delta page.

I think he's referring to this thread.

1920-60s DELTA / ROCKWELL picture thread - Post your Delta!

I thought it was high time we started a Delta Manufacturing Co. / Delta Rockwell thread to discuss and post all your Delta/Delta Rockwell stuff. "Delta Specialty Company" was started in 1919 by machinist Herbert Tautz while working out of his garage, initially only producing small home tools...

www.garagejournal.com

 

[NYBODYMAN]

I think he's referring to this thread.

1920-60s DELTA / ROCKWELL picture thread - Post your Delta!

I thought it was high time we started a Delta Manufacturing Co. / Delta Rockwell thread to discuss and post all your Delta/Delta Rockwell stuff. "Delta Specialty Company" was started in 1919 by machinist Herbert Tautz while working out of his garage, initially only producing small home tools...

www.garagejournal.com

Thanks. I just posted on there.

 

[four.cycle]

Blackhawk at International Tool Catalog Library

There are 1950 and 1955 Blackhawk Jack catalogs at ITCL.
There is also an undated (later) Blackhawk jack catalog, but they're using a different part numbering system (5-digit, all numeric.)
I have a 1958 trade magazine ad that does NOT show the SJ-1 model. The 1966 trade magazine ad (posted below) does show the model SJ-1

1966 Motor Age Blackhawk jack ad pp 10

 

[thehorse13]

The SJ-1 is a great user jack as already pointed out. I'd use that before anything made today. If you lived close by and didn't want it, I'd gladly take it off your hands.

The real star is the grinder that you picked up. What a home run!

 

[57TWPW]

Would anyone know what model number is for the bigger jack than the SJ18s?

Would it be an SJ20?

Can't seem to find any info on the bigger brother!

 

[Shelbylex]

57TWPW - this is nice!!!
No idea what it is, but I love your collection!
Please post the specs once you know what it is!