The vintage Blackhawk Thread

[unitedauto]

I have an old Blackhawk Reck Rack Im selling, cleaning up the garage.

 

[txlonghorn1989]

I came across this Blackhawk wrench set box a few weeks back. I cannot read the Set No that's blacked out. Anyone have an idea?

 

[Oldtuleguy]

I think I have one I will check set number tonight

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Anyone have an idea?

Based on the size/dimensions, it looks like a "T" case. They put 1/2-inch drive spinner sets in those. So either a 12TD, 15TD, or 17TD. The number is the number of pieces, the T is for the case. And the D is for 12-point (Double Hex). All of them had a hinge handle, a tommy bar and a release key, + sockets, either 9, 12, or 14 respectively.

EDIT:

The "Chief" sets spanned the old and new numbering systems from early 30's through '41, and near the end, you no longer needed the release key, but they didn't change the model numbering system, which can be confusing (e.g., 17TD set in 1935 had 17 pieces; 17TD set in 1939 had 16 pieces).

So, for that set...

Hinge handle 9217 or 49988
Tommy bar 9209 or 49986
Release key 9004 or nothing
Sockets 8412 or 40112 (3/8") through 8436 or 40136 (1-1/8")

 

[txlonghorn1989]

Based on the size/dimensions, it looks like a "T" case. They put 1/2-inch drive spinner sets in those. So either a 12TD, 15TD, or 17TD. The number is the number of pieces, the T is for the case. And the D is for 12-point (Double Hex). All of them had a hinge handle, a tommy bar and a release key, + sockets, either 9, 12, or 14 respectively.

EDIT:

The "Chief" sets spanned the old and new numbering systems from early 30's through '41, and near the end, you no longer needed the release key, but they didn't change the model numbering system, which can be confusing (e.g., 17TD set in 1935 had 17 pieces; 17TD set in 1939 had 16 pieces).

So, for that set...

Hinge handle 9217 or 49988
Tommy bar 9209 or 49986
Release key 9004 or nothing
Sockets 8412 or 40112 (3/8") through 8436 or 40136 (1-1/8")

Lugz, here's a better pic of the box. It measures 18-3/8" x 2-3/4" x 1-3/4". It sounds like you're describing a socket set. The decal says "Wrench set". Now I'm really curious to know what was in the box! :0)

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Lugz, here's a better pic of the box. It measures 18-3/8" x 2-3/4" x 1-3/4". It sounds like you're describing a socket set. The decal says "Wrench set". Now I'm really curious to know what was in the box! :0)

Socket wrenches were called wrenches and wrench sets, even after the sockets were detachable from the handles after the fixed (welded, pinned) socket wrench era. Common terminology. And all Blackhawk socket wrench sets were called "Wrench Sets" in catalogs and on decals.

Those are the dimensions for a "T" case.

And, now that I look harder, I see a "TD". Can't tell if that's a 15 or 17 in front of it.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

I dunno Now I'm seeing a "4 ND". Haha. Which doesn't make much sense! The "N" box is very small, for ignition sets. I guess it's the blackout playing tricks on me.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Maybe they put wrong sticker and blacked it out

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Maybe. It would be a 14, though, because 4 is just not enough pieces. And I am only aware of an 11-ND and a 16-ND.

 

[Provincial]

Looking at the area below the blackout, it looks like two vertical and ND. I am leaning toward 11ND. The angled line that looks like a 4 appears to be part of the blackout markings.

 

[txlonghorn1989]

You guys have got me seeing 11ND now. Next question would be - was that blacked out by Blackhawk? Anyone aware of instances where they've seen that?

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Here are a couple

 

[txlonghorn1989]

Those are awesome Otg!

 

[Oldtuleguy]

One says 13 something. Here is a 16 nd and a 10 nd

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Here are a couple

Those are awesome Otg!

One says 13 something. Here is a 16 nd and a 10 nd

Tex - your box is an earlier version of the 13TD set box Otg is showing in Pics 4, 5, and 6 in post #1935. (The N box for the ND sets Otg is showing are a very small square box for midget ignition socket wrenches.) EDT: If you want to fill it or ID it correctly for flipping to someone else to fill, scroll back up and see my posts on TD spinner sets. I would forget trying to figure out exactly what the decal used to say. It is a box for a 1/2-inch drive spinner set. You (or the next person) could just pick a number. 13, 15, 17, doesn't matter. It's the number of pieces, including the handle and tommy bar for the hole in the end of the handle.

 

[twertsy]

Here's some more.

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[930dreamer]

I spotted this on CL;

 

[don long]

That looks like a sweet lil jack Dreamer congrats.

 

[3baygarage]

Finally crossed this off. A neat and elusive little ratchet, the 1/4“dr GW9999.

New Britain Fors patent design.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Nice!

 

[3baygarage]

Thanks. Been trying to put a date on it. Can’t find the correct catalog online. Maybe 50’s.

 

[r_olson_06]

Very nice ratchet. Which ones do you have on your to find list yet?


Looking for a Plomb 3061 Pebble Open End.

 

[3baygarage]

Thanks. Quite a few actually. No actual list, just any I don't have. That one in particular I was hoping to find though, because I have in a bunch of that ratchet in other brands. Never really collected older Blackhawk rats, so missing quite a few there. #1 would be a 7/16 speeder in Blackhawk.

 

[NYBODYMAN]

I have an old Blackhawk Reck Rack Im selling, cleaning up the garage.

Post some pictures please!!!

 

[r_olson_06]

Are you talking similar to a Herbrand J-12 or just a normal speeder?

Looking for a Plomb 3061 Pebble Open End.

 

[twertsy]

Thanks. Been trying to put a date on it. Can’t find the correct catalog online. Maybe 50’s.

My bet is '55-'57.........ish

 

[3baygarage]

My bet is '55-'57.........ish

Thanks. Had to be a short time.

Are you talking similar to a Herbrand J-12 or just a normal speeder?

I just mean the 39995.

 

[DAVEww1946]

Black Hawk frame machines

I'm wondering if you guys ever run across and unit dozers or damage dozers?

 

[Garage.Girl]

Had the Thunderbirds fly over the other day and i think they dropped something in my backyard there... is it safe? I poked it with a stick but nothing happened... Hope everyone is doing well and staying safe out there!

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Call the bomb squad!

 

[Farmer J.]

Beware. From what I have seen on this thread, they are likely to breed!

 

[David Jackson]

"At night when you're a-sleeping the Blackhawk Bomb comes a-creepin' around ..." Best keep a sharp eye out for any signs of smoke, and a sharp ear for any ticking sounds - safest thing to do is send the bomb to me and I will take care of it.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Came into an old single offset wrench

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Here's pics

 

[David Jackson]

I have a couple of those JHW brand. One is small, 7/16, the other is larger, 34" and right now is enjoying a two or three day bath in the electrolisys anti rust tub.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

I have some others but this one looks older

 

[jabberwoki]

?............

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Sure looks like their logo

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Hmm. That's a first.

 

[jabberwoki]

Nice old lift.