kapster
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Thanks, yep its stamped 2000. How do you tell its after 98?
Definitely going to use it, yea thats good advise. Just gets ugly again.
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Thanks, yep its stamped 2000. How do you tell its after 98?
Definitely going to use it, yea thats good advise. Just gets ugly again.
ryan t
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Vise question. I have the craftsman professional 4 1/2" bench vise. I know, I know, made in China etc. My question, there is zero left to right play but if you push/pull the dynamic jaw when it is out an inch or so it will move about 1/16" to 1/8" when not under load. Is this normal for a vise not under any load? When tightened down it doesn't move at all. Thanks.
kapster
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I'll check my 500 but im saying thats perfectly acceptable. My columbian d44 at work moves a 1/4 inch but its pretty beat. Its just the backlash in the screw, all screws except for ball screws have backlash.
Outlawmws
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Three places you can get in line slop like that:
- Too much gap between the screw head and the keeper that let you draw the dynamic jaw back. (It can be shimmed)
- Loose fit ion the threads, (unlikely)
- The main nut inside is not pined in tight. (have to see it but also fixable)
jrg
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Columbian D45 - garage sale find $5. Stripped (electrolytic rust removal), primed, painted with orange rustoleum engine paint. Superlubed moving parts. Exposed metal coated with rem-oil.
Made in china special. Stripped to bare metal, superlubed, coated with rem-oil
Made in china special. Stripped to bare metal, superlubed, coated with rem-oil
Adam McLaughlin
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The D45 is a nice unit; I use mine to work on transmissions with brass face jaws
Adam
Adam
dirtydogintex
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ugly can sure look good on these things!! *L*
Lump
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Wow, Kukko. That one really is weird. Cast or forged one-piece handle? And it looks like you dismantle the top strap so you can turn vise on it's side? That "stationery jaw" must be a floater??
Definitely weird...but cool.
Definitely weird...but cool.
purpurite
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Lump
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Here is a pic of an unusual vise that I found in a county-owned maintenance shop the other day. It is mounted on a post, which goes through a forged iron base, which allows it to swivel freely. The base plate is marked "Victor Vise Co" and "Springfield, O." I've never seen one like it, even though I have lived all of my life not too far from Springfield.
I thought it was pretty cool, and kind of uncommon. So I thought about offering to buy it, or to trade them for another one of the same size and quality, like a large Columbian that I have. But then I realized that the post which extends down so far would restrict access to the tool cabinet drawers which are located immediately under my workbench.
The next photo has 3 yellow arrows to point out 3 pertinent details about this vise.
The left arrow points to what appears to be an old brazed repair to the iron locking collar, although I didn't take it apart and look at the inside of the ring.
The middle arrow points to a shape which I noticed in a couple of photos after I shot it (it was really gloomy in that shop that day, and these lighted pix are much easier to see than it was with my eyes alone). It looks to me like a stylized logo, or similar. It is visible from the other side in the photo above. I will look more closely next time I visit there.
Finally, the right arrow points to the handle which locks the rotational collar. The knob appears to have been broken off at some time in history, and brazed back in place.
These two repairs make me wonder if this thing was dropped at some time in its past?
Have you guys seen other vises like this one? Are they common? What do you think of that swivel-post feature?
I thought it was pretty cool, and kind of uncommon. So I thought about offering to buy it, or to trade them for another one of the same size and quality, like a large Columbian that I have. But then I realized that the post which extends down so far would restrict access to the tool cabinet drawers which are located immediately under my workbench.
The next photo has 3 yellow arrows to point out 3 pertinent details about this vise.
The left arrow points to what appears to be an old brazed repair to the iron locking collar, although I didn't take it apart and look at the inside of the ring.
The middle arrow points to a shape which I noticed in a couple of photos after I shot it (it was really gloomy in that shop that day, and these lighted pix are much easier to see than it was with my eyes alone). It looks to me like a stylized logo, or similar. It is visible from the other side in the photo above. I will look more closely next time I visit there.
Finally, the right arrow points to the handle which locks the rotational collar. The knob appears to have been broken off at some time in history, and brazed back in place.
These two repairs make me wonder if this thing was dropped at some time in its past?
Have you guys seen other vises like this one? Are they common? What do you think of that swivel-post feature?
Rickenbackerman
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Neat! Looks a lot like a Reed?
Also notice the pattern on top of the jaws...
Also notice the pattern on top of the jaws...
Lump
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Say, Rickenbackerman...is your username connected to the motor car? I am an antique car buff.
Rickenbackerman
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So sir... although I do like things with four wheels these have four strings instead...
<img src="http://www.rumbleseatmusicsouthwest.com/72RickenbackerBass.jpg">
Lump
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Nice, for sure. Thanks for the pic
Recoil Rob
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A beauty, I learned about Rickenbackers back in the early 1970's, Chris Squire of Yes had a unique sound and it was his Rickenbacker when everyone else was using Fenders and some Gibsons.
jrg
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Cheers ApexSpeed! first project in the new garage looking forward to getting some usage out of these chunks of metal!
toomanytoyzz
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I am not really sure when your #574 (or any other RI for that matter) was manufactured, but the company was based out of Rock Island, Illinois. From reading I did years ago they were also contracted by Uncle Sam to make arms during WWII. Don't really know much more other than they are really nice stout vises. Is the #574 a swivel base
?toomanytoyzz
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!! I've circled my favorite vise I have in my small collection. They are the "Beauty and the Beast" of vintage vises.
Laro13
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I just bought an old woodworkers vise for 4.50 euro's( 6 dollars).
Its a "made in England" Woden 89 No.1, its 7 inches(177mm) wide and opens to about 8.3 inches(210mm).
Its a bit rusty, but I will soak the unpainted parts in some vinegar en make it usable again.
Maybe I will paint it in the future.
I am a bit curious about its age. I understand that Woden became part of Record in the 60's. But I have seen a Woden vise at my work that looks like new.
Its a "made in England" Woden 89 No.1, its 7 inches(177mm) wide and opens to about 8.3 inches(210mm).
Its a bit rusty, but I will soak the unpainted parts in some vinegar en make it usable again.
Maybe I will paint it in the future.
I am a bit curious about its age. I understand that Woden became part of Record in the 60's. But I have seen a Woden vise at my work that looks like new.
demographic
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I just bought an old woodworkers vise for 4.50 euro's( 6 dollars).
Its a "made in England" Woden 89 No.1, its 7 inches(177mm) wide and opens to about 8.3 inches(210mm).
Its a bit rusty, but I will soak the unpainted parts in some vinegar en make it usable again.
Maybe I will paint it in the future.
I am a bit curious about its age. I understand that Woden became part of Record in the 60's. But I have seen a Woden vise at my work that looks like new.
I have a seven inch Woden vice (as well as a No 4 handplane made by Woden) but its the model with the quick release lever.
Woodwork vice's seem to look good for years because woodwork shops are usually dry and reasonably clean. Not much metal grinding gets done on them either.
The company were owned by the same family as Record and if I remember right some members of the Hampton family (the owners) split off and formed Record.
Then later on they bought Woden out from the family.
Decent tools.
Figured I'd post my 2 recent purchases here. Side by side..the difference in the quality of the casting is quite apparent. I don't know the actual age of either one, but figure they are pretty close in age.
Except for trying to re-seat the jaws, I'm gonna leave the Parker alone and keep it. The paint seems original and in decent shape.
The Athol I'm either gonna try and restore when I get time or just sell it as is..I've got a funky Wilton Shop King coming in the mail and I've got a project planned for that..and no it wasn't hard boiled...
Except for trying to re-seat the jaws, I'm gonna leave the Parker alone and keep it. The paint seems original and in decent shape.
The Athol I'm either gonna try and restore when I get time or just sell it as is..I've got a funky Wilton Shop King coming in the mail and I've got a project planned for that..and no it wasn't hard boiled...
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Mohawk Dave
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ok...why's the egg in there? Is that some kind of test I missed?
Dustin Echoes
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Two Extremely nice vises and look fantastic together!! I'd keep both. Resale value on either won't put you easy street. If you keep both, sometimes a vise will sell itself. I had a guy come look at a grinder and he dropped $1200 on two Wilton 6"'s I just had in hibernation with towels over them. I had no idea of aggressively selling them and they were there for quite some time.
Here is a older Starrett 326 that belongs to a rich collector out East. Its been used, no doubt about it, however with new jaws, not much clamping force will be needed for holding things tight; like the day it was new. New jaws extend the life of your vise by reducing wear on the spindle, handle, thrust washers etc. Guys, consider costs equal to a night on the town, tire rotation with oil change or even a box of your finest cigars. I'm fairly certain this vise will (with care) outlive all of us. Give your vise some love!
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Low Friction
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Here is a older Starrett 926 that belongs to a rich collector out East. Its been used, no doubt about it, however with new jaws, not much clamping force will be needed for holding things tight; like the day it was new. New jaws extend the life of your vise by reducing wear on the spindle, handle, thrust washers etc. Guys, consider costs equal to a night on the town, tire rotation with oil change or even a box of your finest cigars. I'm fairly certain this vise will (with care) outlive all of us. Give your vise some love!
That looks like a Starrett 326. Nice vise.
I stand corrected!!! Its a 326 Starrett. Thank you! I'll send Catalyst in to give you a slice of pie!! LOL!!!
Funny and this Prentiss No. 21 I dug out to throw new jaws on this one. I've been telling guys I had a No.22 !! I'm losing it! Besides a layer of oil on it, its perfect. It will serve a user decades. Anyone out there in need of a set of new jaws like this for your Prentiss 21?
87Pomona
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Picked up this small Dunlap today. Thought you might like to see. Like the castings on this one.
I have the same vise, great small vise.
Mohawk Dave
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Picked up this small Dunlap today. Thought you might like to see. Like the castings on this one.
Just saw one of these resto'd on CL. Good lookin vise. $50. *(not mine)....http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/tls/3555627094.html
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Good looking vise. Looks like Rustoleum Crimson Red
Same model number but has raised lettering instead of the badge the other one had. I think I would prefer the raised lettering, badges tend to be beat up and more work to repaint LOL.
87Pomona
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Mark in Indiana
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For the Parker fans.... Page is from a December 1949 Industrial Railway Supply catalog I saved from the dumpster at work.
I hope the image is attached...
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Thank you for displaying the vise information. It gives me more information about my CP-205.
Outlawmws
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For the Parker fans.... Page is from a December 1949 Industrial Railway Supply catalog I saved from the dumpster at work.
I hope the image is attached...
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That is a great ad page!
I love seeing the double swivel Parker; I'd buy one of those in a NY minute...
Interesting that Parker classed that bottom one as a wood working vise. This backs Up my contention that those thin tall jawed vises were for pattern makers, and not so much for sheet metal workers...
In fact I like all the bottom 5 vises for cool factor. Don't get me wrong, Love a good machinist vise, but you have to admit they do get mundane sometimes!
Outlawmws
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For the Parker fans.... Page is from a December 1949 Industrial Railway Supply catalog I saved from the dumpster at work.
I hope the image is attached...
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ps: Any chance of getting that page in a hi res scanner?
no idea. i saw this thing on CL or Ebay (i forget) and saved the pics. in looking through all the pages of this thread i did not see anything like it. i thought it was pretty neat.