Above 1200 Sq/FT The Warthog Hidey Hole

[jbmatth]

I made a little more progress on the fuel system last night, I wasn't going to be able to run the fuel line like I'd prefer (duel feed and duel return to regulator) as there was just no room to add a tee without tons of fittings and/or tons of strain on the fittings and line. Instead there will be a single feed to one rail, crossover to the other rail, and single return to the regulator before return to the tank. Here it is:


The long line over the engine is the feed line that will connect to the back of the passenger side rail but the 90° fitting I have there hits the manifold so I have a 45° fitting on order. Looks like I'll be working on the clutch hydraulic system next.

JB

 

[MrPink]

I have to rework parts of my fuel system aka add clamps where I for got them lmao. But progress is awesome sir.

 

[rattle_snake]

I think gains from dual feed/return are very minimal if detectable at all, and add cost and failure points as you have mentioned. You don't have a dead head, but honestly those can work fine even in high performance apps too. What is the pump/ pump capacity and what pressure is reg run at?

oh, and easy to add a 't' for that wet nitrous system you don't need.

 

[jbmatth]

I have to rework parts of my fuel system aka add clamps where I for got them lmao. But progress is awesome sir.

I'll probably add a few other clamps as well once I get the final makeups done, but no big deal really.

I think gains from dual feed/return are very minimal if detectable at all, and add cost and failure points as you have mentioned. You don't have a dead head, but honestly those can work fine even in high performance apps too. What is the pump/ pump capacity and what pressure is reg run at?

oh, and easy to add a 't' for that wet nitrous system you don't need.

I'm not a huge fan of deadhead systems as if something does happen to get into the line (or I didn't get them clean enough when building them) that material will sit in the fuel rails or possibly clog up the injectors. No bueno! Now having nitrous on this engine would be kinda fun ya know...

JB

 

[rattle_snake]

Sorry to ask again, what fuel pump(s) is going to feed this beast? 340lph or more? At your power level a fixed flow pump will have to move a lot of fuel all the time.

 

[jbmatth]

Sorry to ask again, what fuel pump(s) is going to feed this beast? 340lph or more? At your power level a fixed flow pump will have to move a lot of fuel all the time.

Apologies @rattle_snake I remembered on my drive home I never answered this question yesterday, you nailed it, a 340lph Aeromotive pump. Aeromotive Link The this link it is advertised to be good for 850 hp NA in a fuel injected application. Photo of it installed with the -8 AN (1/2" 12.7mm) feed and return line:


I did find other options that would flow more but I didn't want to cycle the fuel too much and cause it to heat up too much. Time will tell if I should have gone a different route but this seemed to be an appropriate starting place.

JB

 

[jbmatth]

The thermostat I for the Godzilla engine finely arrived, I assumed it would be some complex piece as the Ford dealer charged $47 for it, but when it arrived it looked very normal, since ordering it I see I could now get it from Rockauto for $30. Pulled the intake to allow better access:

While I had the intake off I couldn't help but to look at the intake ports on the heads:


Man they are so pretty, I can't wait to get this thing running and driving. Next up I decided to finely start on the clutch master cylinder installation. I presumed this would be lots of fiddly work and take a lot of fabrication but I was pleasantly surprised once the pedal assembly was pulled:

The assembly already had master cylinder provisions, after removing all of the unnecessary brackets for the old cable clutch and painted that arm I reassembled everything and mocked up the M.C.:


I read up on the pedal ratio for a hydraulic clutch needing to be 6:1 and when I measured mine out to the attachment point above it is 5.7:1 which works out to 95% so it would only take 5% more effort on the pedal than optimal, that ought to be close enough.

JB

 

[Bob Heine]

JB, you're a better man than me. I'd spend most of the day just admiring the engine.

 

[jbmatth]

@Bob Heine, I do spend a fair amount of time just staring at it, usually trying to figure out what to do next as I'm confused. At this point I just want to hear it running and get it driving soon.

JB

 

[Finallygotit]

@Bob Heine, I do spend a fair amount of time just staring at it, usually trying to figure out what to do next as I'm confused. At this point I just want to hear it running and get it driving soon.

JB

Then quit staring and start wrenching. Oh and we want the video for the first burnout.

Bahahahahaha..........

 

[jbmatth]

Then quit staring and start wrenching. Oh and we want the video for the first burnout.

Bahahahahaha..........

If I can even hold onto the wheel that'll be enough, I'm supposed to get 500 miles on the trans and clutch before driving it in anger. I'll have trouble getting that in before I ship out for outages here at work for 3 months starting late Feb. Hopefully it'll at least be done by then and drivable. I like burnouts though.
JB

 

[Finallygotit]

I don't think the wheel will be a problem. Now the other end of the car, that might be a problem.

I hope you get it done before the outage. If not, it will be waiting for you when you get back.

 

[mybigwarwagon]

When you clutch leg is 5% stronger then the other, you will just walk around in circles.

 

[jbmatth]

I don't think the wheel will be a problem. Now the other end of the car, that might be a problem.

I hope you get it done before the outage. If not, it will be waiting for you when you get back.

I figure my hands will be so busy going side to side they won't be able to hold a phone. I need to remember to measure for my front wheels this weekend so I can get them on order, I keep forgetting.

I don't know if it'll be done...well it won't be done, but it should be drivable before the outage. I'm considering doing the HRPT again next summer and I'm seeing rumors it will be the second week in June, I'm scheduled to get back home the last week in May so I won't have much time at all to get the last few bits wrapped up.

When you clutch leg is 5% stronger then the other, you will just walk around in circles.

I'll be set up to run Nascar tracks then.

JB

 

[MrPink]

I don't think my truck will be "done" enough for HRPT this year. It would be awesome though.

 

[jbmatth]

We shall see if I even go @MrPink, it is a good time but I'd rather go with a group and if my group (at least one of them) decides against it I may pass as well. Time will tell though.

JB

 

[jbmatth]

This was one of those surprising times when the project went much easier than expected as I've been dreading it for some time now. I drilled the center hole with a hole saw and the mounting holes all through the front of the foot box using the pedal assembly as a guide. I was intrigued to find that the front of the pedal box is a piece of 5/8" plywood with a sheet of fiberglass on either side. Just like that the master cylinder is mounted:

Next up was the actuating rod, the one with the kit was way too long, I only needed it to be 2.3" (58.4mm), marked it close to length and cut, this is what remained:


What I didn't realize is that this wasn't threaded all of the way through, shame on me for not verifying before cutting. So off to the lathe, trimmed to length and used the tailstock with a drill chuck to finish the hole through the center and starting working to tap the hole the rest of the way through. Those three operations took a bit of time but then it was just the final installation:


And done, all that is left now is mounting the reservoir, making a line from the master to the slave, bench bleeding the master, then bleeding the system. That'll probably take most of the weekend knowing how my luck runs with bleeding hydraulic systems. Oh while I'm working on that I'll fix the brake lines shown in the first photo, I just don't like the way they look and I may have kinked the rear line.

JB

 

[MrPink]

You should invest in a brake bleeder pump, either manual(hand pump) or a power bleeder. I have one of those hand pump bleeders, and it works awesome.

 

[drivesitfar]

Following along and enjoying the progress. Keep up the great work!!

just curious how your bride (and you) like the new JEEP?

 

[jbmatth]

You should invest in a brake bleeder pump, either manual(hand pump) or a power bleeder. I have one of those hand pump bleeders, and it works awesome.

I have a vacuum break bleeder and it works okay, but I never seem to get it quite right doing it that way. I've gravity bled a clutch before and that did work great after a slave cylinder/throw-out bearing replacement. My thing is I work on so many different vehicles that I'd have to have a ton of adapters for the type that goes on the reservoir. What I've been doing lately is just pumping the breaks and using an adjustable block to hold the pedal down then I go turn the bleeder, has been working great lately.

Following along and enjoying the progress. Keep up the great work!!

just curious how your bride (and you) like the new JEEP?

Thank you sir, nice of you to stop by for a visit.

I was very impressed with it compared to her old Jeep, very smooth riding, better acceleration (mostly due to gearing and tire size), NVH (Noise, Vibration, and Harshness) is much improved, and the new seats and stereo are a nice upgrade from before. Sadly it isn't any better on gas but it is what it is there I guess. All in all it was a good upgrade, hopefully it'll last us a good long time.

JB

 

[jbmatth]

A bit more progress on the Godzilla swap into the cobra today, I finely received the new belt 6PK1300 which is a 6 rib belt 1300 mm long (51.2 in). I had to slightly modify the adjuster I made for the two heim joints as the belt was just a bit too short for the first one. This makes the alternator a little closer to the valve cover but gains a bit of clearance toward the steering side, all in all I think this is the best fit so far. I do need to make another adjuster a bit longer but this will work for the time being:


Next up I decided to mount the remote oil filter, I received my right angle drill and got to work, you can see even with the small bit for the tap it was a tight fit:


Sadly that didn't end up working in the end, it was so close but with the angle of the return fitting on the filter head I just didn't have the clearance for the hose. It was going to have more of a bend in the hose than I wanted too:


Location 2 was investigated and looked to work better for the angles too, it will now be beside the transmission mounted to a plate I made with nuts already welded to the plate. but it had even less clearance and I had to shorten a few bit from my stash to drill the holes:


I made the plate, welded it on, then mounted the remote oil filter. I called it a day then as I had a bunch of running around to do for holiday activities.

Sunday I woke up to 10°F (-12°C) so I wimped out and caught up on some car shows I try to keep up on. Later once it got closer to freezing I decided to do an oil change in The Lemon, that turned into a ball joint replacement on one side and an outer tie rod end on the other side. Oh and I put the say bar bushing back in place, it'll likely fall out again but it would be a huge pain to repalce were it is located. Of course the only store available with the parts was about 40 miles away. Only progress shot I have:


JB

 

[MrPink]

Looks good dude. I have to lug out my old school Milwaukee RH corded drill for a few things on the truck my grandfather gave it to years ago, I can honestly say I have not used it in 20yrs lol.

 

[jbmatth]

I've always been able to get by without one until now but having this may make things a little easier. It sure is nice when there is little space, but would have been much better to have this done before I put the engine and trans back in. Live and learn.

JB

 

[mybigwarwagon]

I have a right angle drill that I have used exactly twice in the 10 or so years I have owned it. It is indispensable when needed.

 

[jbmatth]

I have a right angle drill that I have used exactly twice in the 10 or so years I have owned it. It is indispensable when needed.

If you count my failed attempt to mount the filter housing the first time as a separate use then I've used mine twice as well. It'll likely go back in the cabinet to collect dust for a very long time.

JB

 

[drivesitfar]

You are making nice progress so keep st it snd I’m positive you’ll get to drive that beast of a little car soon.

btw I use my Milwaukee 1/2 inch angle drill quite a bit drilling holes in my home for wires and pipes.

 

[jbmatth]

You are making nice progress so keep st it snd I’m positive you’ll get to drive that beast of a little car soon.

btw I use my Milwaukee 1/2 inch angle drill quite a bit drilling holes in my home for wires and pipes.

Thank you Drives, I sure hope I'll get to soon but sometimes I'm waiting 2 weeks for a part to arrive and it is really killing progress at this point. It'll get done eventually though, I just need to keep moving forward.

In other news I'll be dropping off the new driveshaft parts today to have it put together by a local shop and "should" have it back in a few days.

Also I've mentioned it a bit before but the 08 Impala SS is officially in my name. I paid for it a couple of weeks ago but the seller had the title notarized in October, sadly the Tag Office (DMV) and the state only recognize the date it was notarized not the sale date so I had to pay $148 in late fees to transfer the title to my name. I gave it a quick wash at a car wash and it really needs a good hand washing but looks pretty decent:


I may end up keeping it as a little nicer DD when the Lemon is acting up and as a family road trip car but need to think about it a bit more. Interesting that in this photo you can see 7 of our vehicles (The Lemon is behind the the white truck), not pictured is Grandpa's '95 C1500, '85 (?) Cherokee, Cobra, '57 Chevy, and maybe more I can't remember right now. LOL

JB

 

[MrPink]

My wife's ex-husband/my daughter's bio-dad, has one of those SS's they are not bad cars. If you're dead set on keeping it for a DD, get the Range AFM deactivation thing. or delete AFM the correct way(cam, lifters, valley plate and a tune)

 

[jbmatth]

My wife's ex-husband/my daughter's bio-dad, has one of those SS's they are not bad cars. If you're dead set on keeping it for a DD, get the Range AFM deactivation thing. or delete AFM the correct way(cam, lifters, valley plate and a tune)

Is this because they have a tendency of going out? I've seen where you can actually do a cam swap with the engine in the car you just have to drop it really low including the trans and entire cradle. Looks like a lot of work to me, I am not certain what to do with it just yet, time will tell. Either way it still needs a good bit of work before I should really start driving it.

JB

 

[MrPink]

The AFM causes all sorts of issues when the active lifters fail. It is better to just disable/delete it. Not to mention, you gain more power too from the cam swap.

 

[racer-john]

May you and yours have an enjoyable Christmas and a Happy New Year, JB

 

[racer-john]

What is this "AFM" of which you speak?

 

[MrPink]

What is this "AFM" of which you speak?

Active Fuel Management, GM's cylinder deactivation ****.

 

[racer-john]

Thanks Mr. Pink

 

[jbmatth]

The AFM causes all sorts of issues when the active lifters fail. It is better to just disable/delete it. Not to mention, you gain more power too from the cam swap.

I suspected that is what you were referring to, and have heard about it many times before. Last oil change I did on it I opened the filter and it looked good, that could be what is happening, but no time or space to mess with it right now. It is a fun car when it gets moving, I got on it a little last night and I was at 80 in no time.

May you and yours have an enjoyable Christmas and a Happy New Year, JB

Thank you @racer-john I'm sure we will, we will be staying around here this year and having a relaxing 70°F (21°C) day, I hope your is great as well.

JB

 

[drivesitfar]

This is the time of year I wish I lived down south cause cold temps and constant drizzle when others have 70's and 80's sounds nice. we might have a white Christmas and all our kids and their families will be here if it doesn't snow too much so all good. here's to wishing you and your family have a great holiday too.

also I know while you are in the MIDDLE of a engine build or project it always seems like there are issues and it will never end, but as you know keep plugging away at it a little at a time and ONE DAY while you are driving the Cobra or one of your other projects you'll be smiling from ear to ear (and we'll all be JEALOUS).

cheers!!!

 

[don long]

Merry Christmas J B

 

[Grizz1963]

And so we come to the end of the second year that Imdid not make it back to your place.

but we hve Messenger and the forum.

Just to,say Merry Christmas to you and your gang JB.

Here’s to a great 2022 as well.

 

[Johanfpa]

Merry Christmas to you and your family J B

 

[53PontiacSD]

Merry Christmas from Texas. Have a happy and safe New Year.

Billy