Theoretical question

[jtmcclain]

I have a huge barn currently sitting empty and useless due to location on my acreage. The ceiling is framed with 20 foot long 2x8's. Has anyone ever heard of stickbuilding a shop with 20' sidewalls made of 2x8's? I was thinking 40' x 100' x 20'. Feel free to tear this idea apart.

 

[theoldwizard1]

Depending on how old it is, dismantling and selling the wood could be very profitable.

 

[jtmcclain]

It was built in 1953. Its all 2"x8"x20's, 1"x12"x20's, and 2"x12"x20'. Perfect for a more modern shop. Completely useless where and how it sits.

 

[Bondo]

It was built in 1953. Its all 2"x8"x20's, 1"x12"x20's, and 2"x12"x20'. Perfect for a more modern shop. Completely useless where and how it sits.

Ayuh,..... Only You can figure whether it's worth the labor to tear it down, de-nail it, stack it, move it, 'n build a New shop with it,....

It depends on the resources ya got available, 'n the time to do it,.....

Btw,.... just because ya got 20' lumber, don't mean ya can't cut it to fit the new plans,....

 

[matt_i]

20' balloon framed wall will likely need some center blocking.

 

[Daniel Dudley]

Completely useless where and how it sits.

Really ?

 

[never enuf time]

Ya, do it

 

[sledneck32!]

20 high walls no prob. Done it with 2x6 even. Timberstrand tho.

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[My Old Tools]

20 footers will make 2 ten footers. They will also make rafters. How about 10' side walls and a 12/12 pitch. That will make a high ceiling work area.

 

[ltusler]

How about moving it to where you want it?

 

[Hornman]

Have you counted the number of 20' 2x8 in the old barn? For the size building you want, you will need at least 210 of those 20' 2 x8, not counting corners and door and window framing, based on 16" centers. That is just studding, top and bottom plates not included. That 1953 barn must be huge if you think it will yield enough lumber to build a 40 x 100.

 

[Blue]

Depending on how old it is, dismantling and selling the wood could be very profitable.

I keep hearing that the old barn wood is worth money, but for the most part, it seems like any profit is eaten up by the cost of tearing the thing down.

I'd like to meet the person who actually turned an old barn into a pile of cash.

 

[Leaflessshadetree]

I keep hearing that the old barn wood is worth money, but for the most part, it seems like any profit is eaten up by the cost of tearing the thing down.

I'd like to meet the person who actually turned an old barn into a pile of cash.

I've met the guy. If you buy an old barn he will move it.
He also will tear down old barns and charge very little, if there is material that can be salvaged.
He also will set up buyers with sellers but he rarely will buy one without having it sold.

 

[maxpower_hd]

The barns that bring big money are really old. This was built in the 1950's not the 1750's. So the value isn't quite the same as 200 year old lumber. I would re-use it if you can dismantle it yourself. If you have to hire a crew to do it you may save nothing over the cost of new lumber.

 

[bczygan]

Will your zoning rules allow a 20' or more tall structure?

 

[pstnbly]

Why the heck would you want a building with 20' walls? Are you going to breed giraffes. Everything you do in there above 12' will be a pain in the ***. Pour a stemwall 2' above the floor grade, cut the 20's in half, and have a 12' ceiling.

 

[ynned]

Dimensional lumber from 1953 is slightly larger than today's. Shouldn't make too much difference, but it's hard to intermingle it with new. IOW, if you don't have enough for all 4 walls, you should make an entire wall out of the new for fit.

 

[Kevin54]

I have a huge barn currently sitting empty and useless due to location on my acreage. The ceiling is framed with 20 foot long 2x8's. Has anyone ever heard of stickbuilding a shop with 20' sidewalls made of 2x8's? I was thinking 40' x 100' x 20'. Feel free to tear this idea apart.

Why is the building useless where it is sitting now? What size is the barn currently? Why in the heck would you want 20' sidewalls? At 20', you are looking at 2 stories. I have 10' sidewalls with scissor trusses, and I can lift my Dodge Ram high enough that I can get under it. Like stated above, have a 2' stem wall, and cut the 2x20's into 10' lengths. You'll not need any more height than that unless you are planning on a loft area. I think with 20' sidewalls, the building would look totally out of place.

My buddy has 16' sidewalls in his building, and it's huge. IIRC, his building is 52' x 100'. Luckily he is only using it for cold storage as it is costing him quite a bit of money just to insulate and to put OSB on the inside walls. He is planning on putting a loft in at 8' high that is 24' x 50' though.

 

[pmiranda]

Tall enough for some Triple Stackers !

I'd really rather have the floor space.

 

[Dick in Wisconsin]

What about dismantling the barn and have the huge timbers cut down to more useful dimensional lumber by a local saw mill?

 

[NUTTSGT]

I'm curious as to why it is useless the way it is ? Wrong location or wrong size/layout ?

How about picture of said barn and it's relationship to where it's located.

 

[markbugno]

Why the heck would you want a building with 20' walls? Are you going to breed giraffes. Everything you do in there above 12' will be a pain in the ***. Pour a stemwall 2' above the floor grade, cut the 20's in half, and have a 12' ceiling.

^This.


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[jtmcclain]

I was looking to make about 40' of the building into a living area. 20' sidewall gives me plenty of space for two stories. I have a shop with 12' walls now and it feels short. I am also looking for a used crane to put in. You can never really go too tall or too big. I have large (50' tall) steel buildings where I work so I am used to those.

Right now the barn sits on a slope, dug into the hillside. As the entrance sits now, I can not get a vehicle into it due to the slope, I would need to do a lot of dirt work. It is also set on a cinder block foundation, and back in the '50's they didn't put rebar or cement in the voids so the walls are heaving inward pretty bad. Right now it looks better to either tear it down or burn it.

I will try to get some pictures tomorrow. It's pretty cool, it just ***** that it is located where it's at.

I did price out the lumber, looks like I might save $5000 at the most. I'd be into a lift or telehandler for more than that just to bring it down in a controlled manner.

 

[rsnip988]

Why the heck would you want a building with 20' walls? Are you going to breed giraffes. Everything you do in there above 12' will be a pain in the ***. Pour a stemwall 2' above the floor grade, cut the 20's in half, and have a 12' ceiling.

20 footers will make 2 ten footers. They will also make rafters. How about 10' side walls and a 12/12 pitch. That will make a high ceiling work area.

I was looking to make about 40' of the building into a living area. 20' sidewall gives me plenty of space for two stories. I have a shop with 12' walls now and it feels short. I am also looking for a used crane to put in. You can never really go too tall or too big. I have large (50' tall) steel buildings where I work so I am used to those.

Right now the barn sits on a slope, dug into the hillside. As the entrance sits now, I can not get a vehicle into it due to the slope, I would need to do a lot of dirt work. It is also set on a cinder block foundation, and back in the '50's they didn't put rebar or cement in the voids so the walls are heaving inward pretty bad. Right now it looks better to either tear it down or burn it.

I will try to get some pictures tomorrow. It's pretty cool, it just ***** that it is located where it's at.

I did price out the lumber, looks like I might save $5000 at the most. I'd be into a lift or telehandler for more than that just to bring it down in a controlled manner.

I agree with the stem wall idea and 10' walls... 12' ceilings will cost enough to heat and cool (depending on your location which isn't listed much less a 20' ceiling. The 20' is overkill in most applications, would it be easier to have 2-10' stories than 2 built on on 20' length... I'm not even sure how you would mount the joists for the second floor in the middle of the posts...

 

[Cyberbear]

Depending on what type lumber was used originally, and what condition the stuff is in, working with old lumber can be very difficult due to warping. splitting, etc. Lots of factors to consider and very labor intensive.

 

[Stevie-Ray]

Why the heck would you want a building with 20' walls? Are you going to breed giraffes. Everything you do in there above 12' will be a pain in the ***.

8' second story?

Make a hell of a home theatre.

 

[willy (traer)]

I keep hearing that the old barn wood is worth money, but for the most part, it seems like any profit is eaten up by the cost of tearing the thing down.

I'd like to meet the person who actually turned an old barn into a pile of cash.

I turned an old barn into a pile of ash