There is a difference. PRICE

[BBQ&Love]

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Huh?

 

[wreckerman5357]

is he strokin out?

Jesus Christ, I just read that. Maybe he got an early start with his boozing today. He's probably having a good time.

 

[Brownsfan]

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Is this English?

 

[fourtythree]

Sometimes I think Snap-On could tea bag some of your grandmothers and most of you would defend it. So Chinese tools are ok as long as it has Snap-On stamped on the side, but if Craftsman does it, they're ******* evil. Gotcha.

 

[Hiball]

Sometimes I think Snap-On could tea bag some of your grandmothers and most of you would defend it. So Chinese tools are ok as long as it has Snap-On stamped on the side, but if Craftsman does it, they're ******* evil. Gotcha.

Lets take Snap on out of the equation, Do you think all Chinese made tools are Equal?

Whatcha Got Now?

 

[fourtythree]

Lets take Snap on out of the equation, Do you think all Chinese made tools are Equal?

Whatcha Got Now?

Certainly not. I'm also not one to preach made in the USA. I just think its hilarious how this forum rants about US made tools until Snap-On does it, then it's ok.

 

[Hiball]

Certainly not. I'm also not one to preach made in the USA. I just think its hilarious how this forum rants about US made tools until Snap-On does it, then it's ok.

I think this is the Last place you will find members arguing "for" Chinese Snap on.

 

[BJ42LX]

Huh?

You betcha!

 

[BJ42LX]

Is this English?

Some of the words are, I guess...

 

[wreckerman5357]

Sometimes I think Snap-On could tea bag some of your grandmothers and most of you would defend it. So Chinese tools are ok as long as it has Snap-On stamped on the side, but if Craftsman does it, they're ******* evil. Gotcha.

The difference I see between Snap-On and Cman is that Cman has quality control problems and Snap-On does not. I'm not saying Snap-On never has QC problems, because everyone does. I'm just saying they have very few, I have never bought anything from them I had problems with. Snap-On could produce better tools in China than Cman could in the USA. They have different business models. Snap-On sells primarily to pros that use their tools daily to earn their living, Cman sells primarily to homeowners that use their tools a few times a year.

Craftsman is making an effort to cut costs as much as possible and quality is noT a priority from what I have seen. Snap-On moves things to China in order to keep profits high and keep the tools at a price point where their customers can still afford them. Quality is still a high priority at Snap-On because their customers demand it. Cman customers don't care, they are more concerned with price. Both companies are giving the customer what they want, the thing is, Snap-On caters more to what I am looking for as a professional user.

 

[otis66]

Sometimes I think Snap-On could tea bag some of your grandmothers and most of you would defend it. So Chinese tools are ok as long as it has Snap-On stamped on the side, but if Craftsman does it, they're ******* evil. Gotcha.

I don't buy Craftsman tools not stamped USA and I do not buy Snap On tools not stamped USA. And that includes the Daul 80 ratchets. Still usingmy 936's

 

[Aviatordoc]

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That is funny.
I tried Google to translate it and google was beaten.

 

[barcalo]

This quote sums it up for the most part. Not only is this happening in the manufacturing sector but also in the construction industry.
Low bid gets the job more times than not. In the electrical industry the low bid may give you the looks on the surface. Turn on the switch and the light comes on, hey great job and it was cheap right! However the boxes used are too small, the devices are the cheapest and burn up. The wiring methods are wrong not supported or installed per NEC. the fan is hanging on a plastic box etc etc, but you cant see the inferior workmanship above the ceiling or in the wall. Just like the shiny chrome and paint hiding inferior metals, welds, etc in a tool.
Now there is no sense in spending high dollar for something being used a few times year by a DIYer. I understand that. I also know that a littler home work and reading and consultation with a pro will usually net me the best brand for my money.
I work hard for my dollar and before I hand one cent over to anyone for anything I better be getting the best possible deal I can get. Sometimes this means spending a little more for something thats going to last. More often than not it takes me a while to pull the trigger. I have to look at what I expect from the product and buy accordingly.
I have tools from all over the world but I have done my home work like most guys on here.
My take on the tools of my profession is as follows
Priority 1= Performance
Priority 2 = price
Priority 3 = Appearance
Performance/price ratio is the best way to approach this and yes performance means WARRANTY AND CUSTOMER SERVICE.
Sometimes this process tells me I need a cheap tool. It depends on how often you use it and what type environment you use it in.
I have to say though there is nothing like a fine engineered and quality built tool. This is also a factor for me as I support the effort and cost it takes to research, develop and produce such a tool.
This is where knock offs or stolen engineering gives me heart burn. So use your mind and money wisely and support the companies that keep giving quality products when your wallet allows it. you just might need a job there some day.

great points

 

[Big Johnson]

I don't buy Craftsman tools not stamped USA and I do not buy Snap On tools not stamped USA. And that includes the Daul 80 ratchets. Still usingmy 936's

What's wrong with the Dual 80?