There needs to be more american made tools in stores.

[TimDaToolMan]

I'm not sure if it's an issue with the tool company, or an issue with the store.

Went to Napa today, all they had were "Evercraft tools" which were made in India.

Autozone, Oriley's, and Advance Auto parts did not have any american made hand tools (a general selection).

Kmart, Walmart, Sears, Target and Lowe's don't either.

Menards does, but there's not that many chains around.

AFAIK Home Depot does not either.


No wonder why people buy China/Taiwan, there really aren't that many brick and motor stores left that sell USA.

Even went to a JOHN DEERE dealer, and the JOHN DEERE tools were not USA, except for a few things like pliers.

So I can't blame people for buying them.

I will be honest, Menard's is the ONLY PLACE around that sells usa made for a decent price, anything else is 3-5X as much.

 

[franzdom]

Why exactly do you say this? First off all or most of those stores do have USA made tools.
And what exactly is the need? Stores stock what people want to buy. I blame the consumer more than the stores.

 

[justanengineer]

Why exactly do you say this? First off all or most of those stores do have USA made tools.
And what exactly is the need? Stores stock what people want to buy. I blame the consumer more than the stores.

+1. My local Sears has a big percentage that is US made contrary to claims made here. Similarly, I noticed the other night that quite a few of the Husky branded tools in HD are made in the US.

Give folks potential reason to gripe and they do.

 

[ducksface]

What value, other than causing a mod to delete it, is a thread like this?

 

[Stuey]

It's economics.

And why don't more stores sell lab-grade benchtop multimeters and oscilloscopes?! The local Staples doesn't have computer watercooling supplies. And why doesn't Walmart sell that new dSLR camera lens I want to buy!?

 

[LB-1911]

What value, other than causing a mod to delete it, is a thread like this?

I'm surprised he is still here.... Then again this one might do it.

 

[chris142]

The 100 pack of razors at auto zone are made in USA.

 

[sberry]

There are plenty in the store for me. More than I can afford. Another shelf full wouldn't help. That's half the problem we got now, way too much stuff.

 

[sberry]

1000's of vendors sell this stuff. Only so many people want or need it.

 

[ganymede]

Arrivederci ! ..

 

[Askme42]

Where's my dead horse gif?

 

[Strouty]

I understand it now, you are the one that got a bunch of threads deleted or closed in the span of 24 hours. At least now I can officially add you to my list. Guys he is totally a troll and will be banned at some point. Here is his latest closed thread.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=291871

 

[Fedwrench]

I'll bite....
there needs to be more people willing to pay more money for American made tools

 

[Strouty]

Where's my dead horse gif?

I like this one personally.

 

[RedneckWelder]

I'll bite....
there needs to be more people willing to pay more money for American made tools

This. Most people who shop at those types of stores for their tool needs are NOT the ones willing to pay the cost for many American made tools. The Craftsman price point was about the upper end of what the average big box non pro shopper was willing to pay. Your average shopper isn't going to pay the money for something they don't use daily, they are going to go for the cheaper option, especially if it's "good enough" for their use.

OP a few days ago you were the one bitching about how there were no "cheap" socket sets that met your specifications. Looks like you are part of the problem.

 

[LB-1911]

I understand it now, you are the one that got a bunch of threads deleted or closed in the span of 24 hours. At least now I can officially add you to my list. Guys he is totally a troll and will be banned at some point. Here is his latest closed thread.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=291871

Ponder this one......

Detecto was banned on the 22nd -
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/member.php?u=265378


Prior to the 22nd TimDaToolMan's last activity was
06-15-2014
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/member.php?u=167347

 

[Danguitarman]

I thought the ignore function was supposed to make this guy's threads stop appearing...

 

[Strouty]

I thought the ignore function was supposed to make this guy's threads stop appearing...

Nope, just his actual posts. Even then, if someone quotes them, you get to see it as well.

 

[Strouty]

Ponder this one......

Detecto was banned on the 22nd -
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/member.php?u=265378


Prior to the 22nd TimDaToolMan's last activity was
06-15-2014
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/member.php?u=167347

The worst part is he played like he was a first time tool buyer when he started "Detecto". A bunch of us gave him advice, then he went and started his own tool review thread. To me, he made it sound like he was a kid just starting out. I think admitting he used the other user ID and reading what he posted should be enough for a perma ban.

 

[franzdom]

This is Detecto??? WTF

I did notice a resemblance in the subject matter now that you mention it.

 

[Strouty]

This is Detecto??? WTF

I did notice a resemblance in the subject matter now that you mention it.

Yes, he openly admitted it after detecto was banned. Ryan even offered to close this account if he was still upset that the mods banned his alias.

 

[LB-1911]

This is Detecto??? WTF

I did notice a resemblance in the subject matter now that you mention it.

It is conjecture on my part, the ban of Detecto and reappearance of TimDaToolMan on the same day is interesting.


eta-

Yes, he openly admitted it after detecto was banned. Ryan even offered to close this account if he was still upset that the mods banned his alias.

I missed that thanks for the update.

eta Found it -
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=291871

 

[Strouty]

I understand why he said he started a new account (old email with no access for password), but he started a different person as far as I am concerned.

 

[stikman56]

Far as I'm concerned there needs to be more USA made stuff everywhere in this country. It isn't going to happen though. It's only been getting less and less as the years roll on.

 

[Sprintman]

I'm not sure if it's an issue with the tool company, or an issue with the store.

Went to Napa today, all they had were "Evercraft tools" which were made in India.

Autozone, Oriley's, and Advance Auto parts did not have any american made hand tools (a general selection).

Kmart, Walmart, Sears, Target and Lowe's don't either.

Menards does, but there's not that many chains around.

AFAIK Home Depot does not either.


No wonder why people buy China/Taiwan, there really aren't that many brick and motor stores left that sell USA.

Even went to a JOHN DEERE dealer, and the JOHN DEERE tools were not USA, except for a few things like pliers.

So I can't blame people for buying them.

I will be honest, Menard's is the ONLY PLACE around that sells usa made for a decent price, anything else is 3-5X as much.

Why??

 

[John in OH]

This. Most people who shop at those types of stores for their tool needs are NOT the ones willing to pay the cost for many American made tools. The Craftsman price point was about the upper end of what the average big box non pro shopper was willing to pay. Your average shopper isn't going to pay the money for something they don't use daily, they are going to go for the cheaper option, especially if it's "good enough" for their use.

OP a few days ago you were the one bitching about how there were no "cheap" socket sets that met your specifications. Looks like you are part of the problem.

Absolutely, dead-on, right !!

 

[malykaii]

I remember detecto, started a thread asking for advice on "tools" then shot all the recommendations down and for 4 pages because it wasn't what he was looking for yet never once said what he was actaully looking for. I called him out as a troll and dude was still in la la land. Dude wouldn't even read the responses to his own questions.

The best, all he wanted was American tools only, then a few days later started a review thread of all the non American tools he bought.

 

[malykaii]

Regarding the topic, shopping at a Wal-Mart for American tools?!?! If anyone wants to be pro American and support the American economy with their tool purchases, wtf are you at Wal-Mart? That company barely stocks a single American product (so why start with tools) and has a business model based on abusing the American economy and it's American workers. They trap their workers and pay them so low they end up on welfare. Hence taxes help support their workers so Wal-Mart doesn't pay them. That's American slave labor and abuse of the system, yet outsourcing production is the problem?

A lot of the pro American garage journal members need to pick up a book on economics before posting here.

 

[malykaii]

"OP a few days ago you were the one bitching about how there were no "cheap" socket sets that met your specifications. Looks like you are part of the problem."

Def. Detecto.

How do you even have the time to visit all those stores? Pick up a book on American history or economics in that time. Plus all the energy and gas you spent shopping to save a dollar you could have just bought the good stuff.

I take back asking if your a troll, I now know lolz.

 

[EShield]

I have watched good members get banned for telling this clown the raw truth, yet he is still here...lol.

 

[thesilverone]

OP complains about lack of USA tools yet can't afford to buy any. Give me a break. Either put up or shut up. OPs a troll

 

[panknuckshovel]

Once again.

 

[BK13]

I understand why he said he started a new account (old email with no access for password), but he started a different person as far as I am concerned.

I just figured he either got out of jail or his mom turned on his internet again.

 

[Mike.ASC]

Regarding the topic, shopping at a Wal-Mart for American tools?!?! If anyone wants to be pro American and support the American economy with their tool purchases, wtf are you at Wal-Mart? That company barely stocks a single American product (so why start with tools) and has a business model based on abusing the American economy and it's American workers. They trap their workers and pay them so low they end up on welfare. Hence taxes help support their workers so Wal-Mart doesn't pay them. That's American slave labor and abuse of the system, yet outsourcing production is the problem?

A lot of the pro American garage journal members need to pick up a book on economics before posting here.

I agree with many of the comments people have posted about the reasons most stores stock non USA made tools and why most people only buy such tools . I also dislike Walmart as a whole -for many other reasons not mentioned here BUT Walmart doesn't "trap" anyone that works there . People that choose to work there do for many reasons but they do in fact "choose" to work there and willingly accept the pay and terms before they start the first day and they also can "choose" to work somewhere else . Most peoples circumstances are the results of many decisions and choices they make during their life .

 

[Strouty]

I just figured he either got out of jail or his mom turned on his internet again.

Once he logs in and reads this thread, he is either going to think twice about posting this **** in the future or go off on everyone and get himself banned.

 

[woody 73]

I thought Mr. Wild Man cowboy sr. left did Mr. Wild Man Jr. fill the void ?

 

[stikman56]

I agree with many of the comments people have posted about the reasons most stores stock non USA made tools and why most people only buy such tools . I also dislike Walmart as a whole -for many other reasons not mentioned here BUT Walmart doesn't "trap" anyone that works there . People that choose to work there do for many reasons but they do in fact "choose" to work there and willingly accept the pay and terms before they start the first day and they also can "choose" to work somewhere else . Most peoples circumstances are the results of many decisions and choices they make during their life .

This is true ,HOWEVER, they do make sure they are the welfare queen of corps. and they are at over 6 billion paid by us taxpayers for their workers public assistance. That is also true.

 

[malykaii]

Oh, sorry. Let me rephrase what I ment by trapped. You receive a part time revolving schedule. In turn you are trapped at one job. You can't get a second job as you don't have a schedule, plus all those other corporations pull the same 30 hour ****. Hence trapped.

As an example of how it should work, I had a bread route from 4.30am till 9.30am. To make a little extra I got a gig helping out on the grill at the deli across the street spurring the lunch rush from 10am-2pm. Hence, not trapped.

 

[malykaii]

And last thing on Wal-Mart. They dip in once with numerous corporate tax breaks, then again by not paying workers, a third time because public tax money (which they skip out on adding to) supports their employees, and a forth time because they take in ~18% of all,food stamps issued.

Yet American tools/coo, immigration, and abortion are our concerns. Lolz lolz and one more,lolz.

 

[stikman56]

And last thing on Wal-Mart. They dip in once with numerous corporate tax breaks, then again by not paying workers, a third time because public tax money (which they skip out on adding to) supports their employees, and a forth time because they take in ~18% of all,food stamps issued.

Yet American tools/coo, immigration, and abortion are our concerns. Lolz lolz and one more,lolz.

And that's why I refuse to shop there and haven't for the last 4 years.Wal-Mart.