These new "safe" gas cans

[vfr-rider]

So the venting causing the gas to evaporate and varnish and go bad makes sense but why can't they just have a screw down vent that can withstand the daily expanding/shrinking??

That's really the only problem I have with them, it just takes too long to drain one out into what you are pouring it into.

 

[STClurker]

I have replaced all of my cans with these:
http://www.nospill.com/

They're stupid expensive compared to the regular "new" cans but these actually work as gas cans.

One thing that does not work is the auto stop feature, found that out the first time I went to fill my brand new mower with my brand new gas can... what a mess. So don't believe the cute model. Otherwise great though.

thanks for the link, I will be pointing them out to the boss man on monday. I'm another serious hater of the new gas "cans"




on a related note, I did an out of gas call a couple of weeks ago...he had gas, he just didn't know how to put it in his car. it had the capless gas filler thing

 

[Fish-man]

I no longer use the built in spout. I bought a metal funnel that has a flexible spout that will hold whatever shape it's bent to.

By using a spring clamp, the funnel can be used with my vehicles. The body of the funnels sits in the "V" of the clamp handles.

Take the spout off the gas can, pour away. No mess, and it's much faster.

Genius. I had the very same thought today while pouring from a can into my car. I only have the vent in spout type... not even the rtarded safety ones. Where did u get the metal funnel?

 

[e30bradley]

These are what I use.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-G7988/

"Notes This jug is not to be used with fuel"

 

[SGKent]

Ours works perfect once I (61 years old) figured out how to use it. You leave the nozzle on all the time because it seals itself when not in use. To fill the lawnmower etc you push the catch on the nozzle against the top of the tank and gas will flow out to the proper height then shut off automatically because there is no vent in the can. It is actually pretty slick once you figure it out. This is what ours is like:

 

[Torque1st]

I bought a 5 gallon Jerry can with a safety spout a few months back. After successfully spilling as much fuel as I managed to dispense correctly I threw the safety spout away. The new can replaced a 30 year old 2 gallon can with a metal flex spout. The old can had developed a leak in the bottom seam from corrosion and just plain use. I removed the perfectly good flexible metal spout and trimmed it down to fit on the new can. I punched a hole in the new can for a threaded vent plug. Now I have a new can that works well. I haven't spilled a drop since.

 

[IDASHO]

You guys need to ditch all of those POS plastic cans.

I use these guys. Never leak, never spill, always odor free, and made in the USA

 

[Boost Creep]

and you can buy those where? i don't know the last time i've ever seen a metal can for sale new. i hate the new gas spouts as well

 

[IDASHO]

I get them from work.

I work at a Do it Best

They have them in 1, 2, and 5 gallon cans.

The 5-gallon is SKU 572106

http://www.doitbest.com/Gas+and+kerosene+cans-Eagle+Mfg-model-UI-50-FS-doitbest-sku-572106.dib

 

[mmhouse]

I haven't read all the posts but I do use the plastic 'safety' cans for my lawnmowers and other power equipment. I don't like them any better than anyone else but I have found a method that makes them easier to use. See steps below...

1. Place the pour spout into the gas tank and hold the can by the rear handle (not the top handle) so the can hangs in the pour position.

2. Pull the release tab on the release lever with your thumb while resting your hand on the lever.

3. Press down on the lever to start gas flow and release the tab. Continue pressing lever.

4. When the tank is nearly full release the lever and the flow will almost immediately stop without overflowing the tank.

It actually works quite well without spilling any gas or getting it on your hands. Like someone else mentioned, if the dang can gets all blow up with pressure from heat release the pressure before tilting the can or you'll have gas spewing everywhere (safety my rear end!).

 

[bob15]

and you can buy those where? i don't know the last time i've ever seen a metal can for sale new. i hate the new gas spouts as well

Eagle cans are found at hardware stores, e-bay, amazon. I have five 5 gallon cans a single 1 gallon for pre-mix. All with the yellow funnel. No more spilled gas.

 

[allinon72]

We have those Eagle cans at work and they are excellent. However, they run about $60. A little pricey for a homeowner.

 

[johnny]

I have never spilled so much fuel since they came out with these cans.

 

[Mercy]

"Notes This jug is not to be used with fuel"

From what I gathered in searching for an second off-road can, summit and other brands like rotopax(what I have) make a white utility/water jug that comes with a non-carb compliant regular flex spout. The jug is the same but white, the spout is not legal for fuel use. I have an older rotopax with the old spout, but you can buy a new one and and order a water jug spout, or just buy a white one and use it for gas. Either way you are not carb-compliant, but you aren't coated in gas either.

 

[henrysgarage]

Most of the time I remove the nozzle and just pour the gas from the can. Of course I could use No Spill "Jill".

 

[NUTTSGT]

I get them from work.

I work at a Do it Best

They have them in 1, 2, and 5 gallon cans.

The 5-gallon is SKU 572106

http://www.doitbest.com/Gas+and+kerosene+cans-Eagle+Mfg-model-UI-50-FS-doitbest-sku-572106.dib

That 5 gallon can is $50. I don't think the average person spends that much on gas cans in their entire life.

 

[DCarr]

I unexpectedly ran out of gas in my '86 Monte Carlo ( fuel pump went bad and fuel leaked out while it was stored ) while on my way to the gas station. I got one of these new fuel cans, filled it up went back to the car, got about 1/3 of it in the car, a 3rd on the ground and left the can and the remaining 3rd on the side of the road.

The can sat there for 2 days before someone took it.

 

[toyotadriver]

These are the cans you want. You can buy a 4 pack or just one. They also have smaller sizes as well. Great cans and the nozzle listed on the link is also a good one. Mine did have a tiny leak where the nozzle met the flange. However, a little JBweld and it worked perfectly.

http://www.deutscheoptik.com/product_info.php?products_id=1718

Spout link.
http://www.deutscheoptik.com/product_info.php?products_id=3015

10 liter (little more than a 2.5 gallon) can
http://www.deutscheoptik.com/product_info.php?products_id=1967

5 liter (little more than a 1 gallon) can
http://www.deutscheoptik.com/product_info.php?products_id=1968


Believe me, these are the way to go for fuel cans.

 

[superspec]

I bought a little 1 gallon unit for the shop, to top off my grandson's mini bike. The safety gear on it worked so well you could not get gas out of it to save your life. I threw it away.

my FIL brought his tiller over for some work. he also brought his gas can with all of this "safty ****". much like yourself i found out just how safe it was. i could hardly get it to drip gas out of the spout. i had no problem putting my $2 worth of gas in his tiller to keep me from getting more pissed off.

 

[Busted_Knuckles]

Ive been buying "old school" gas can at consignment sales. I think I have at least 30+ right now. Half are steel, the balance are plastic, all vented.

I started buying them, when I found out, they where doing away with them.

I have an eagle "safety can", its great for transporting fuel, or any other use that requires zero spillage. dispensing fuel, without the factory funnel, is not a real clean procedure. I agree its a good can, but at $50, next to nobody is going to buy one. I got mine used at a sale for maybe $10 ?

I bought a "briggs and stratton" 1.5 gallon new style vent-less cans with the push to pour spout last year, for my chain saws

What a piece of garbage. The spout leaks fuel terribly, from within itself. I double checked the gasket, the neck is smooth on top, as soon as it's empty its going in the trash. I think its a poor design, over and beyond the whole "vent-less" thing. I have one or two other brands of the new vent-less design, but they work fine, just dont leave them in the sun.

 

[mmhouse]

I think its a poor design, over and beyond the whole "vent-less" thing.

You might even call it a 'pour design.'

 

[IDASHO]

That 5 gallon can is $50. I don't think the average person spends that much on gas cans in their entire life.

I must be lost...

I thought this was Garage Journal.

All of you are bitching and moaning about cheap, plastic, chinese made gas cans because they absolutely ****.

I provide you with a quality, steel, USA made gas can and you complain about it costing $50??


Your loss.

I have FIVE 5-gallon eagles. They are THAT good. No leaks, no mess, no BS whatsoever. Two cans get low octane for the cub cadet garden tractor. One can gets low octane ethanol free for the Honda powered Husky mower, one gets high octane mix 50:1 for the Husky chainsaw, and the last one gets high octane 35:1 for the husky trimmer

 

[kert]

My understanding is the new gas cans are supposed to be more environmentally friedndly (fewer vapors escaping because of the automatic seal). The problem I have is that I end up spilling more gas than I ever did with the old style. I have a 1-gallon old style, but unfortunately, the spout doesn't fit my new-style 5-gallon "everyday" can. Hell, half the time I get frustrated and just take the spout off and pour straight from the can.

I'm all for being "greener," but these spouts are NOT greener.

 

[Busted_Knuckles]

My understanding is the new gas cans are supposed to be more environmentally friedndly (fewer vapors escaping because of the automatic seal). The problem I have is that I end up spilling more gas than I ever did with the old style. I have a 1-gallon old style, but unfortunately, the spout doesn't fit my new-style 5-gallon "everyday" can. Hell, half the time I get frustrated and just take the spout off and pour straight from the can.

I'm all for being "greener," but these spouts are NOT greener.

Once again, the law of "unintended consequences" rears its ugly head.

The part that blows my mind, is where they think the vapor are going to go ? Either they build up with time, and you release them when you use the can, or they just wander out of a vented can over time. I suppose, if you dont access your fuel for months at a time, it might stave off a little evaporation, but what a PIA !

 

[earlthegoat2]

Eagle cans are the only way to go. You pay the extra dollars for no safety device I guess.

 

[1948]

im guessing my jerry can isnt code lol!

 

[babzog]

I've got a few of these as well. They're great for filling the chainsaw as the flow of gas is reduced (easier to control, leading to less spillage), but my two diesel cans are awful to use! Try holding 5gal in the air for 5 minutes while the fuel trickles out!

I too removed the so-called safety retainers... just too much of a PITA to bother with. I will be keeping my eyes open at auctions for older 5gal cans (our regular, vented plastic cans) and will be selling my new "safety" cans on kijiji shortly thereafter.

One thing.. have you noticed the price of replacement parts for the old cans vs the new ones? Old ones are like $20+ for the vent & filler cap... new kit is half that. Social engineering?

 

[Bruce4310TX]

I vote "NO".....a real POS! Took a razor knife and cut all the **** off it. The thing leaks all over.....what a waste. If you like this government answer to gas vapors, you will love the governments answer to health care!!

Medicare is Govt Health right, i suppose if folks are rich they can afford private insurance when they retire probably less than 1/2 % of the population.

 

[Torque1st]

My 30 year old metal gas can was sealed. It did not leak any vapor nor would it explode if I left it in the sun. It had a vent I could open when I needed to pour out fuel. It was perfect in every way so it had to be 'improved' upon.

My new modified 5 gallon Jerry can is metal and easy to handle. It is easy to pour from and pours rapidly. It does not leak vapor. It is strong enough to take the pressure from sun heating. I will probably 'improve', I mean replace, a couple current plastic fittings when I get my lathe set up.

I have an old 5 gallon Kerosene can I need to repair. Some seams need to be re-soldered. It will make a fine fuel can.

 

[dreamingmuscle]

I've posted this before but it's the cats a$$

http://reviews.basspro.com/2010/102...bass-pro-shops-e-z-siphon-reviews/reviews.htm

I use it to fill my boat from 5 gallon jerry cans and just about everything else. ***** a 5 gallon down to nothing in a couple minutes. Just a couple of shakes with the brass end in the can and it's moving

Works like a charm.

http://www.harborfreight.com/self-priming-copper-jiggler-pump-47334.html

 

[Jackfre]

Fortunately, they still make rubber plugs to fit into the end of the spout once you get frustrated at not being able to get gas out of your new gas can and tear all the **** off the "new improved spout"!

 

[dreamingmuscle]

I have two five gallon cans. One new style and one old style. I usually fill them both at the same time. Then use the old one first. When it's empty, I refill it with the new one. The new spouts are junk.

Glen

 

[Junkman]

Water jugs are made of a single layer of plastic, with no consideration taken to issues caused with storing gasoline.

Plastic gas cans have a layer in the plastic that prevents the gasoline from permeating the plastic. They have caps that won't deteriorate and crack from gas contact, and anti-static treatment to prevent fires.

Oh, and they're red. This makes the fire department happy, when they don't have to worry about a water jug bursting into flames in a BLEVE, and they at least know what they're facing.

 

[klaw]

I have replaced all of my cans with these:
http://www.nospill.com/

They're stupid expensive compared to the regular "new" cans but these actually work as gas cans.

One thing that does not work is the auto stop feature, found that out the first time I went to fill my brand new mower with my brand new gas can... what a mess. So don't believe the cute model. Otherwise great though.

I found one of these after I returned a pourly (lol) designed HD one I am going to replace all my cans with these

Klaw

 

[Busted_Knuckles]

One thing.. have you noticed the price of replacement parts for the old cans vs the new ones? Old ones are like $20+ for the vent & filler cap... new kit is half that. Social engineering?

Yeah, you found that too !

 

[PeterT]

They made sure to modify the threads so nobody could just use there old spouts as well. Our money at work, these bean counting government bums.

From what I gathered in searching for an second off-road can, summit and other brands like rotopax(what I have) make a white utility/water jug that comes with a non-carb compliant regular flex spout. The jug is the same but white, the spout is not legal for fuel use. I have an older rotopax with the old spout, but you can buy a new one and and order a water jug spout, or just buy a white one and use it for gas. Either way you are not carb-compliant, but you aren't coated in gas either.

 

[Hurricane_Whisperer]

I have never spilled so much fuel since they came out with these cans.

Welcome to America. The country that put men on the moon in 1969, now we can't flush a toilet or fill a lawn mower, or pass a budget. And it was all done on purpose.

 

[BOONEY7750]

As mentioned the larger cans are a real pain in the ***, I had to try to put 5 gallons in a project truck and about ran out of flashlight batteries and passed out waiting for the damn fuel to trickle out. I think these cans have a bad prostate. I like the eagle cans but yeah 50 bucks is steep, but I would have paid a hundred to get one at mid night last week. I ended up dumping the gas in a 5 gallon bucket with a lid I bought for washing my car but hadn't used, then unscrewed and punctured the hole in the lid and poured it in the tank with a funnel. Does the EPA considerate it a victory if people are using 5 gallon buckets for gas because the new gas cans are so useless?

 

[fireguy]

Say what you will, the DOT plastic cans are tough. I don't know how far I have thrown those things while trying to fill my Sprinter or pressure washer. They bounce and do not break. Too bad the same care was put into making a fuel can that does not leak.

Yesterday I was at the NAPA store and saw the Summit Racing fuel cans. Counter man told me they do not leak when used. Not cheap though. I think they come in colors also. Of course, they are for racing purposes only, not commercial and everyday use. So, only those racing folks can legally use them. I think I will set a race between the DOT cans and the race cans. Loser gets to go live in the wood stove. Winner gets reduced to living in the work trailer.

 

[John in OH]

WTF Thank you EPA for saving me from myself .I buy all the old ( normal ) style gas can at yard sales spill no gas and can pour 5 gallons in a tank in 2 minutes or less.

Yep, me too. Keep an eye open for the older style plastic gas cans at garage/yard sales.

I've also got several of the old style 5 gal. round steel cans that you used to be able to buy motor oil in. Rinse them out, spray paint them red, and you're good to go for years.