There's a big gap between the low end brands and Snap On. It's really odd when people look at it as if its black-and-white, thinking you can't get Snap On tools for a fraction of the cost - meanwhile brands like Bondhus literally sell Snap On allen keys for way less money.For everything else? I'll buy from Craftsman/Kobalt/etc. for a fraction of the price, and be completely fine.
Letting quality slip on which specific tools? You got me curious.Didn't watch the video
My take on. Snapon, now caveat is I have alot of Snapon tools BUT .now they are letting quality slip and the price gouging in the last few years has gotten insane
Even the new guys starting out are going to icon and harbor freight,
OK I watched the video...lame
Back in the day I was a snapon *****...lol
Is that your video?
It made me laugh... Especially the part at the end taking his wife "somewhere expensive."
As someone who buys Snap On, I can unfortunately relate to some of it.
I can't imagine a payment on 80k worth of tools. I didn't even pay half that for my semi truck. Both my semi trucks combined didn't cost half that.I feel like "overly trusting mechanics" are their biggest buying demographic. Someone I went to high school with spent like $50k on this massive toolbox they sell, and customization for it. He swore it was worth it, and a great investment. He had like $80k in tools he was paying for, from Snap-On.
Last I saw (1.5-2 years later), he had it for sale on Facebook for like $14k, and couldn't find a buyer. If I regularly broke a tool, or needed a very specific tool that's expensive, I'd consider buying it from Snap-On. For everything else? I'll buy from Craftsman/Kobalt/etc. for a fraction of the price, and be completely fine.
There's nothing wrong with having a giant Snap-on box full of Snap-on tools. If it helps you in your trade that's fantastic.
Some with rather have a huge house.
Some people would rather have an expensive car.
Some would rather have an expensive boat.
Some would want all the toys.
Some would rather see the world and speed their money that way.
Whatever floats your boat...
pliers for oneLetting quality slip on which specific tools? You got me curious.
pliers for one
sockets , wear out quicker , crack easier than other brands
the 1/2 drive impact (air) sent mine back 3 times , finally said **** it and got an I.R.
price out their wrench sets , no wrench is worth that much ...
It seems those without snap on tools are obsessed with convincing themselves and others they don’t need them.
Letting quality slip on which specific tools? You got me curious.
I put cracking easier down to having thinner walls for better access, not bothered to measure and see if this is true.sockets , wear out quicker , crack easier than other brands
Click-baiters gunna click-baitYup. I don't get why Snap-On hate has become a movement. People really have time to scour YouTube for this stuff?
-Ryan
The Battle cry of wanna-be Harley riders everywhere...usually it's their ol' ladies idea that they ain't never gonna spend that $$ to own anything like a Harley, instead they dream up reasons why theirs is better.It seems those without snap on tools are obsessed with convincing themselves and others they don’t need them.
It's cringy and lame, but more than a little truth to it in parts. The bit where he says "My son's not going to college, but..." could also have been "I don't have any money in a retirement account, but...", and where my issues mainly reside with the business/pricing model. I would never argue Snap On fails to deliver quality at the top of the industry.OK I watched the video...lame
Well sure - there's a big gap between the Pittsburgh and Bremen locking pliers too. The level of quality of the non-truck-brand alternatives has gotten awfully high, and of course the pricing is far lower.There's a big gap between the low end brands and Snap On. It's really odd when people look at it as if its black-and-white, thinking you can't get Snap On tools for a fraction of the cost - meanwhile brands like Bondhus literally sell Snap On allen keys for way less money.
That's the argument that really pisses me off. The math on that fails immediately.He forgot to mention how they were an “investment” and how he could sell them for what he paid for them 10 years later. He knows what he’s got.
It's a free country but knowing that a lot of people, and especially those in trades, wind up in pretty ugly scenarios when it's time to exit the workforce, there's no way it 'helps you in your trade' enough to make it worth it, at least early in your career.There's nothing wrong with having a giant Snap-on box full of Snap-on tools. If it helps you in your trade that's fantastic.
Some with rather have a huge house.
Some people would rather have an expensive car.
Some would rather have an expensive boat.
Some would want all the toys.
Some would rather see the world and speed their money that way.
Whatever floats your boat...
The amount of Snap On folks who seem to linger around the HF sub on Reddit and troll every chance they get, not to mention soime attitudes displayed here pretty convincingly show that's a two-way street. It's silly rock-throwing on both sides IMHO.Yup. I don't get why Snap-On hate has become a movement. People really have time to scour YouTube for this stuff?
-Ryan
The accent is consistent with this gentleman's. Likewise the energy. I wonder if they know each other.
It's a free country but knowing that a lot of people, and especially those in trades, wind up in pretty ugly scenarios when it's time to exit the workforce, there's no way it 'helps you in your trade' enough to make it worth it, at least early in your career.
A bigger house, expensive cars, boats, toys and travel are supposed to be things you do after you finish taking care of the basics, which includes retirement IMHO. If you're doing well, have the basics locked in and have more disposable income, I don't see any problem with buying Snap On if you want to. That's have I've wound up with the SO tools I own, at least for the most part.
I've read quite a bit that insinuates blue collar workers can't manage their money. I've seen a few train wrecks with "professionals" (white collar) too. Keeping up with the Jones until the roof caves in...I have seen plenty do very well in the trades including my own Father. That has nothing to do with buying Snap-on tools though. That's just poor money management skills in general.
Most people don't live that way now. IMHO there's nothing wrong with taking an extra few years to pay off the mortgage so you can have some enjoyment along the way. I've lost to many friends and family members to sit and fill my piggy bank for 30 years. Life is short, especially for those who were unlucky.
I've read quite a bit that insinuates blue collar workers can't manage their money. I've seen a few train wrecks with "professionals" (white collar) too. Keeping up with the Jones until the roof caves in...I have seen plenty do very well in the trades including my own Father. That has nothing to do with buying Snap-on tools though. That's just poor money management skills in general.
Most people don't live that way now. IMHO there's nothing wrong with taking an extra few years to pay off the mortgage so you can have some enjoyment along the way. I've lost to many friends and family members to sit and fill my piggy bank for 30 years. Life is short, especially for those who were unlucky.
I'm not insinuating that white collar workers are any better at managing their money. If y'all are hearing that in my post, it's your own mind putting it there, and maybe there's a reason why. I'm not saying people can't make an excellent living in trades, but a lot more people saddle themselves unnecessarily, and I doubt most of them ever fully recover from it. I'd be thrilled to be wrong.Of course we're bad with money, the snap on man scams us out of our meager paycheck because we're too dumb to know better.
That's why white collar workers never file for bankruptcy.
A young tech in a trade that as a pretty-significant fallout rate stuffing double-digit thousands of dollars on tools and a box that could be had for a third that much money is far better off stuffing the difference in an IRA and 'suffering' the lesser tools until you're well-established in all the ways that matter.
I'm not sure the 'Life is short' message makes it for me in the form of a bunch of tools in a box.