Thinking about assembling a tool set to live in my daily driver

[Fender1325]

Had a couple times recently where something broke while away from home and I didn't have some basic tools to get the job done. I never like being caught with my pants down so I've been thinking about assembling a tool set to live in my daily driven truck.

All I have in there now is a blanket (for moving furniture), various tie downs, lug wrench, crappy scissor jack, cigarette lighter air compressor (a real life savor when in need) and a tire pressure gauge.

So the two schools of thought are this:
A.) Build up a cheap set of HF goodies
B.) Retire my craftsman stuff to "truck duty" and upgrade to some new stuff to live at home.

I don't need top notch stuff, I don't do it everyday. That being said I'm tired of the standard issue craftsman ratchets....in the past, when random items were needed (socket, wobble extension) ive been impressed with AutoZone's duralast brand. They have some nice looking ratchets too.

Craftsman has some cheap deals however on mechanic sets....saw 165 p. Set for like 70 on eBay brand new.

Kobalt stuff just feels cheesy to me. I don't want them and I don't like my local Lowe's anyhow. Husky? Eh. Maybe. Stanley is out bc they're black - as cool as they look it's a great way to lose tools.

Thoughts?

 

[kctyphoon]

Despite what many will say, the HF hand tools, esp the pro series, are more than adequate for vechile maintenance. Just get a self contained socket set, (any brand, HF, husky,Stanley, etc) but try and buy one with mostly just sockets and ratchets without a bunch of filler ****, or something that comes with half assed wrench sets too. Avoid buying doubles.. At HF, buy the red and blue handled screwdriver set, wrench sets, and HF pro pliers set. Buy a cheap bag to throw everything but the socket set in, and you'll be fine. Some zip ties, fuses, and electrical and duct tape aren't a bad idea either. The 1/2" extending ratchet makes for easy tire changes too, will work on the lugs and maybe your jack also. Also - a cheap tire plug set is a great idea to keep in the car with everything else. You can top it all off with a lithium jump pack and you'd be pretty well equipped IMO.

 

[chrisnazzy]

I agree with KC.....you could easily build a guick cost effective set to keep in the truck with some of HF's offerings. Alot of their better "Pro" stuff has come a long way.

I did recently buy a Tekton 3/8" drive metric/sae socket set for our tire department. I was primarily looking for a well organized and sturdy blow molded cased set for tool control because our tire guys have zero respect for putting tools back when done......however I was extremely impressed with the quality of the set. Google Image'd pic.

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[Mohawk Dave]

I don't care what brand name you put in there, just make sure they are good quality. Break down and then have ****** tools fail in the middle of nowhere. ....6 Ps right there...

 

[HanShotFirst]

Which way you go depends on how secure your tools will be. If the chances of them being stolen are very remote, then buy the best quality that you can reasonably afford.

For ratchets and sockets you really can't beat Harbor Freight's Pittsburgh Pro line. VERY good ratchets and the sockets are about as good as the better stuff from Taiwan; which is to say, pretty darned good. Not professional grade, but the ratchets are FAR better than any of the US made Craftsman teardrop ratchets ever were...smoother, tougher, and even aesthetically very nice to look at.

As for wrenches...well, Harbor Freight's wrenches are adequate, they will get the job done. For a little more you can have nicer wrenches from Tekton...I personally think Tekton's combination wrenches are pretty darned good, and very nice. V, VA or VV series Craftsman can often be had for under $50.00 a set; that's hard to beat. Older US made Craftsman raised panel wrenches are first rate in their broaching, and reasonably strong; but not truck tool strong. I think you'll find that Tekton's combo wrenches are probably "better" wrenches; certainly stronger. (I still just love my old Craftsman raised panel wrenches though...I've had mine for over 30 years).

Tekton has a screwdriver set of US made screwdrivers that is VERY cheap for US made screwdrivers, and they're damn nice screwdrivers....those are hard to beat.

For pliers, the Harbor Freight pliers are more than adequate, and their diagonal cutters will get the job done, but I always prefer my diagonal cutters be US made...Especially on a portable tool box...If you're broken down, you don't want the kind of diag-cutters that munch in. Go US for your cutters.

Also, watch Craigslist. I see new or nearly new tool sets that come in the blow plastic cases all the time. The Stanley stuff that's made in China are actually pretty darned nice. Their teardrop ratchet is a copy of an old, SnapOn; not nearly as smooth but they're very good ratchets (it's one of the few Chinese ratchets I have kept and use).

HF's ball end Allen wrenches are very good. And I put not one but two (insurance) of the freebie HF multi-meters in my box.

Best of luck in your endeavor...always a fun project putting together a portable tool box.

 

[HanShotFirst]

I don't need top notch stuff, I don't do it everyday. That being said I'm tired of the standard issue craftsman ratchets....in the past, when random items were needed (socket, wobble extension) ive been impressed with AutoZone's duralast brand. They have some nice looking ratchets too.

Here, here on the CM standard ratchet. I've had decent luck with their 1/2", but the 3/8" US made teardrop ratchet...BLOWS!!! It's the one ratchet that I consistently kill, over and over again. I keep one mostly out of nostalgia but I NEVER use it. If I'm not using my HF composite fine tooth 3/8" ratchet, then I'm using my old SK. The HF composite is just really nice to work with. It's smooth, stronger than it has a right to be, light, and just a pleasure to work with. If I don't use it these days, it's because I've come across a fastener that's a tough one...that's when I reach for my old SK.

Regarding Duralast - Yeah, it's Chinese mostly; let's get that out of the way. But I have to say, it's very nice Chinese. They are nice ratchets, but personally I don't think they're any "better" than the best ratchets that HF has to sell. For me, when it comes to import tools, I won't pay more for it not to have Pittsburgh stamped on the ratchet. Because the Pittsburgh SnapOn rip-off's are so good anymore, that you pretty much have to buy a tool truck brand to get a truly "better" ratchet.

I have a set of Duralast (Chinese) reversable ratcheting combination wrenches. Either they're the same as the Gearwrench, or they're so close that it doesn't matter. As for build quality, they are made very well and aesthetically they're just shy of flawless. So far they have been a joy to work with. They truly are nicer than anything that HF has to offer (and HF doesn't offer a reversible ratcheting wrench), and they're cheaper than most other reversible ratcheting wrenches. So build quality looks very good, and pricing is excellent; I think they're the import ratcheting combo wrench to beat.

 

[jeeper46]

All three of my vehicles have pretty comprehensive tool kits in them. Mostly HF tools, but not all-many are tools i picked up cheaply at garage sales,etc. I keep them all in one of those military-surplus mechanics bags.

 

[Ole Slewfoot]

I look at what teh set/s wold cost at HF, add $10 for fuel to drive there, and spend up to that much on Ebay. Steer clear of the truck brands, and you can get some cool but used stuff at HF prices.

 

[gdocktor3]

I have a few Husky black chrome mechanics sets I keep on my trucks. They're extremely complete, tucked in a slim compact case you could never replicate. Perfect for vehicles and cheap enough that it doesn't matter if stuff gets lost. Then, I have another small box I put together with pliers, adjustables, screwdrivers, etc, etc. Whatever wasn't in the Husky sets.

 

[dadsEH]

Just invest in 'roadside assist insurance'....no tools needed.

 

[Dave455]

A 'road box' of some sort is definitely the way to go, and I say this having been at both the other extremes at some point or another!

When I started driving I simply did what my Dad had always done, and carried a decent selection of tools together with some spares! Needed them on a few occasions too.

When I started to get newer (and smaller) cars I reckoned I didn't need anything much so my 'road box' became my 'mobile box' which I only carried if I was doing a job away from home!

As those newer cars have started to age, I'm back to carrying tools around, but a smaller, more realistic selection, then before!

I'm not a great fan of loading up with boxes of cheap tools just because they are staying on a vehicle. I much prefer to carry a more limited selection of what I really need, but have something 'mid range' in terms of quality! For me that means picking British or European brands at a mid price, but if you shop wisely that's not much more than you pay for the Taiwan stuff! In the U.S. that probably means SK or Wright or suchlike!

I'm careful about what I carry though. I ensure, for a start, that I've got the tools relevant to the vehicle. For me, that means carrying Torx for example, but, I only need to carry sockets / wrenches in the 8,10,13,17,19 range as that's what my vehicle uses!

In practice, I have a regular and short bit driver with a good selection of regular bits (plus torx and hex) instead of a wide selection of screwdrivers. I have pliers in regular and needle nose, and combination wrenches in the sizes listed. I have a 3/8 ratchet, breaker bar and extensions together with the relevant sockets, and a half inch breaker bar specifically for wheel nuts!

Just as important are the spares. Aside from the usual bulbs I carry spark plugs and a length of HT lead, all belts, most hoses and some general repair stuff like locking wire, super glue, electrical wire and a few terminals!

It sounds a lot but everything except the half inch breaker bar fits in two 12 inch plastic boxes and so far I've sorted out most things.

Most often I end up fixing other folks vehicles rather than mine though!

 

[bczygan]

You don't really need much, if anything.

How long is your daily commute?

What is the availability and response times of towing services?

What are the likely repairs you could do on the roadside?

I used to carry a full set of tools and all the fluids.

Now we carry a couple of roadside assistance cards, spare tire changing tools and a couple of things to tighten wires and jump pack and cables.

No reason to carry anything else.

What exactly, do you expect to fix on the roadside?

Bill

 

[cgv69]

When I was in the same situation, I put my kit together with a combo of old tools that I already had but wanted to upgrade and filled in the blanks with tools I got super cheap on sale/clearance etc..

The hard part is figuring out what you really need vs nice to have. That assuming you're concerned with overall size and/or weight of the kit?

Lastly, what you use to store all those tools in matters too, especially if like me you don't like digging into a bag full of unorganized tools trying to find the one you need.

 

[joel63]

You don't really need much, if anything.

How long is your daily commute?

What is the availability and response times of towing services?

What are the likely repairs you could do on the roadside?

I used to carry a full set of tools and all the fluids.

Now we carry a couple of roadside assistance cards, spare tire changing tools and a couple of things to tighten wires and jump pack and cables.

No reason to carry anything else.

What exactly, do you expect to fix on the roadside?

Bill

I think you make a strong point here.

Only time I was caught short was when the battery went dead. I was about 50 miles away from home and about a mile away from an auto parts store. I was able to get a lift to the store and pick up a battery.

No problem there.

But I had no tools to replace the battery. Picked up some cheap wrenches while getting the new battery to make the swap.

So from that experience, I now know that I need to keep all the necessary tools
to at least replace a battery.

Batteries can be unpredictable.

I now carry the tools in both vehicles.

 

[nh_yota]

Don't forget a 24" breaker bar - they're great for stubborn lug nuts and seized fasteners. I keep mine in my truck (along with other tools) because I only use it while working on my truck.

 

[bczygan]

Here is what we carry in our 2002 Astro Van, with the usual Detroit rust.

All is kept in 2 large plastic bins to keep out of sight.
Rear seats are removed and bins are secured with a load bar. We don't carry passengers and this leaves space for cargo.
1/2" HF ratcheting breaker bar instead of X wrench
HF flip socket set, but only the socket that fits our lug nuts and covers.
1 1/2 ton HF aluminum jack and a short chunk of 4x4 to replace car jack.
Full size spare on matching rim kept inside the van.
Good quality long jumper cables.
JNC660 jump pack.
Side post battery terminal wrench

Small change and small bills for emergencies kept hidden.
Winter coat
Blanket
Hard candies
A few bottles of water for car or people.
A few HF free LED lights
Gloves
Wheel lock key (Hidden)
Extra ignition and door key(Kept outside)
Cell phone with extra battery (Small lithium jump pack)
Paper towels
Maps
Window scraper and winter hat in the winter
Bags of salt for ballast and traction in winter
Shovel in winter
Pencil and paper
Piece of cardboard and/or small free HF tarp.
Umbrella
Fuses
AAA card for longer tows
Drive America card for short tows

Need to add a head mounted LED light and spare batteries.

We only expect to change a flat or tighten a battery cable. All other maintenance or repairs will be done at home or a shop after a tow.

Work is 15 minutes away and around town isn't usually over 30 miles distant.
We always try to have the other person available with a working vehicle, and monitoring traffic conditions during drive times, so they can be summoned for aid.

This covers us adequately.

Bill

 

[FigureItOut]

The thing I always keep in mind when I equip one of my vehicles is that I often need tools for non-automotive stuff. If I go over to my mom's house for example, I may be asked to hang a picture or look at the garbage disposal etc., and I carry enough to handle to those little tasks.

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[joel63]

Don't forget a 24" breaker bar - they're great for stubborn lug nuts and seized fasteners. I keep mine in my truck (along with other tools) because I only use it while working on my truck.

For me that goes without saying.

 

[ptgarcia]

The thing I always keep in mind when I equip one of my vehicles is that I often need tools for non-automotive stuff. If I go over to my mom's house for example, I may be asked to hang a picture or look at the garbage disposal etc., and I carry enough to handle to those little tasks.

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This is why I would keep tools in my truck (at the moment I don't, I barely have enough for home). But I'm in California, and have multiple roadside assistance plan (via my auto insurance and AMA membership) and wouldn't likely try to fix anything on the road.

 

[Finky198]

I carry quite a bit but not for my vehicle breaking down more for the getting a call and being out all day in my vehicle. I never know what to expect. Now I don't have to stop at the shop because I already have a tool kit on hand. As well as a jack, first aid kit, fire extinguisher, tow stap and tie downs, moving blanket, sometimes the jump pack and or shovels just depends on the season. And always have a bag with clothes and a jacket.

I took tools from my box as I replaced them with better brands and made a bag. About 30 lbs and can do pretty much all basic car and house repairs and with decent tools. It's a mix Craftsman USA ,HF, Channel lock, vise grip, and snap on.

My jack is a HF 1.5 ton hidden behind the spare tire.... I was able to fit the rope in the drawer it made a lot more space.

Large and long tools

Towing / Tie downs

Tools and bag of general stuff +Tire plugs, fuses, automotive stuff...

 

[brveagle]

I picked up an older craftsman tool box (the old school mechanic style) and just started adding bits and pieces to it that i found at estate sales or garage sales.

Socket set, few sets of pliers, etc..

I use it more for when i am at a friends house or parents place and need a set of tools, but if i ever have an issue while driving, i know i can fix something minor.

 

[gdocktor3]

If you can find an older black, portable 3 drawer Craftsman Rally box, buy it. They're really good. I have one of those in one truck and a Bluepoint 4 drawer in another. The Craftsman is every bit as good as the BP.

 

[anurag1990]

http://www.toptul.com/en/2-2179-58008/product/150PCS-1-4-inch-1-2-inch-DR-Tool-Kit-id350078.html

 

[theoldwizard1]

First, figure out what size of a box you are willing to carry. I have a small plastic Craftsman. It is AMAZING what I can get inside there. It might thake me 5-10 minutes to find something, but it is in there !

So the two schools of thought are this:
A.) Build up a cheap set of HF goodies
B.) Retire my craftsman stuff to "truck duty" and upgrade to some new stuff to live at home.

I am a CHEAP SOB ! I will never replace my Craftsman tools because they work just fine. Buy HF.

 

[bpjr]

I carry standby tool sets in 3 cars...mixed brands of old extra stuff from my garage and new tools to fill in the gaps. Basically a socket set, screw drivers, adjustable wrench, set of open end wrenches, spark plug wrench, pliers, channel locks, vice grips, knife, wire, tape, tie wraps, hose clamps, hose, tire plugs, hammer, pry bar, battery cables, etc. They are carried in small canvas bags. Not too heavy to carry around and small enough to tuck away. About the only things I've really had to deal with on break downs that stopped me are battery, water pump, water hoses, fan belts and flat tires. I have AAA road service but anymore I change those items long before they need it. Cheap HF tools work fine for this too.

 

[kctyphoon]

I have a few Husky black chrome mechanics sets I keep on my trucks. They're extremely complete, tucked in a slim compact case you could never replicate. Perfect for vehicles and cheap enough that it doesn't matter if stuff gets lost. Then, I have another small box I put together with pliers, adjustables, screwdrivers, etc, etc. Whatever wasn't in the Husky sets.

The black husky sets are the same as the Stanley. At least mine is. It's a few years old now.. I bought it with the excuse to just use IN the house, away from grease.. I've about run out of excuses though, I have too many sets.

 

[Fender1325]

Thanks for the input all.

This set is not only for the random emergencies but more so when Im out helping friends/relatives fix things and I'm stuck with the wrong tool or no tool at all, and I also do various odd jobs for money.

Anyhow heres where Im at now.

I have looked at SK, Williams, Tekton, Gearwrench, Craftsman, Duralast and Carlyle.
The more I look at sets the more I realize you end up buying a lot of what you dont need, just to get what you DO need. I dont want to pay for allen keys (I have 10k of them from all kinds of stuff laying around), I dont want to pay for the set to include 5 low quality wrenches, I dont want to pay for screw drivers and crappy little bits, or a bunch of 12 point stuff that nobody ever needs. I opened my craftsman 94 piece mechanics set (USA) and realize how well its served me over the years, and the random things I needed like extensions, specific deep sockets, U joints, turns out theyre duralast brand. I really quite like the knurling on them, and the accuracy to how they attach to the detent ball on the ratchet.

My biggest pain is on my craftsman 3/8 ratchet is accidental flipping of the direction switch into "neutral", and theyre not all that comfy.

So what ive decided to do is actually piece together a better quality set that will live at home and downgrade my trusty craftsman set to live in the truck.

We'll see what unfolds. Tekton, Duralast, and Crafstman Pro are in my targets right now.

 

[Gmonkee]

Thats what I did with brands more common around me. But chances are you will end up with very similar or the same tools despite the brand stamp.

I have had a long run on a very basic set without any fails. Mine was built up to send the bling home and use cheaper stuff in the shop.
It is used daily during the week on any job we get. Good stuff if not prestige brands.

 

[Fender1325]

A while ago, after a terrible warrantee experience with craftsman (and general terrible attitude of my local store) I vowed Id never buy craftsman again. That and I just posted about not buying a bunch of what you dont need....

I have to say though - this is a great looking value:
http://www.sears.com/craftsman-311-piece-mechanics-tool-set/p-00953311000P?rrec=true

Just about all the sockets youd ever need in 1/4, 3/8, 1/2 drive, shallow/deep, metric/SAE. Low profile fine tooth ratchets, Plus ratcheting wrenches (and the screw driver with bits BS) for $189? If I didnt already have a lot of that, I'd say thats a good buy



.....................then again......look at those lobster claw wrenches!!!!! I think I'm being suckered into "look at all you get for x amount!!!" I was raised with old craftsman and theyve served me well. Old habits die hard.

 

[DFB]

I like to use the soft bags for a lot of vehicle tool storage now. Years back my cousin was always after me to use canvas bags after his experiences in gov't service but I always had a 20" hip roof steel box on the floor of my truck. Always carried tow chains too. I still do in the work dump truck today.

We did so many "on the road" repairs way back then. One time my brother blew his steering box in the woods and after we pulled his truck out the mud we changed it right there and he drove home.

Also remembering now one local trucking and excavation contractor whenever we seen piece of equipment on the side of the road and usually with a pair of legs sticking out from under we always knew who it was. Of course we had to stop too!

So I also like to be prepared for "things that might happen" on the road and often don't feel comfortable unless I have few tools, but unless you know your running borderline with bad tires, belts, driveline joints, wheel bearings, battery/starter or maybe weak coolant hoses or radiator what can you really be planning for. Generally getting under my SUV with running boards and full skid plates is pretty tight and you cant access much. I wouldn't even try getting that spare tire out from under after all this time either.

And really sometimes it may take of diagnosis right never mind where that breakdown may occur. (Would hate to be in a tunnel hey)

My last breakdown I was towing with my tractor on the trailer up a hill and my vehicle just sputtered and quit. Man that was a situation after maneuvering somewhat to the side of the road against oncoming traffic had to block the trailer unhitch to get towed off then after hitch up another truck and move my equipment from the side of the road. Turned it was my ignition coil.

Though I always carry jumper cables and 30ft tow strap since I do live in New England plus the vehicle has its spare fuses and puller tool, I more often just have a flashlight, adjustable wrench, multi bit screwdriver, wire cutter, razor knife, electrical tape scissors and a hammer taking up space (never know when I use one or the other)

But if I travel especially with trailer I put my 2655B compact impact, bottle jack, tekton lug nut socket set behind the seat , and more recently keep a cheap DMM and an inexpensive code reader tool in my glove box. I also carry a tire pressure gauge regularly .


Basically a 1/4- 3/8 drive set with plug socket swivel adapter and extension screwdriver and bit set, cutter, pliers, electrical tape, multimeter and combo wrenches, pliers should do ya in soft bag if you're feeling the need for your own on the side of the road repairs.

I do a have decent PM set in tightly fitted storage case that I can easily grab and has both SAE and Metric but Stanley, Husky or Craftsman all have sets would probably fill the bill or maybe a nice Dewalt set seems to often be deal s on them.

Obviously HF tools have been suggested but don't overlook TSC for tools with all the stuff they stock under their store brand too.

What is with all those orange camouflage tools they have anyhow

 

[chrisnazzy]

I was raised with old craftsman and theyve served me well. Old habits die hard.

Tell me about it. Such fond memories I have thumbing through the Craftsman tool catalog as a young man....making a list of everything I wanted. For my 16th birthday my folks bought me a Craftsman set probably similar in scope to the one you posted plus a set of Snap-on hard handled screwdrivers.

Not only do I still have all of those Craftsman USA sockets but I've probably spent just north of $100 over the last few months expanding my 1/2" drive sets to include full runs of SAE and metric, shallow and deep in only similar vintage USA. Still got a major thing for those Snap-on hard handles too.

Speaking of SO hard handles..... when you purchase a new set of screwdrivers check out the Williams black hard handled. They are made by and are identical to the SO and can be had for $40-$60 for a nice set.

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[bcexplorer]

http://www.toptul.com/en/2-2179-58008/product/150PCS-1-4-inch-1-2-inch-DR-Tool-Kit-id350078.html

Thats a nicely thought out kit

 

[ex-x-fire]

I'll add that you should carry a tool to get your serpentine belt off, even if you have to make one. Getting that belt off/on can be a big challenge with short balky wrenches or ratchets.

 

[BK13]

http://www.toptul.com/en/2-2179-58008/product/150PCS-1-4-inch-1-2-inch-DR-Tool-Kit-id350078.html

That's a nice set! It even comes with a BFH in case you have to work on Chevys! LOL


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[Buster21]

This is what I carry, it is a mixture of channel lock and craftsman. I have used it more to help out other people than I have for me. For you people that live in cities and say just get a roadside assistance card, keep in mind that a lot of us live in rural areas and the closest assistance might have to come from a couple hundred miles away and take hours. You could be sitting for hours just because you couldn't tighten a bolt. The last time I used it was to help a elderly couple outside of Yellowstone, they dad stopped and then their car wouldn't start, they were on the phone with some roadside assistance place and they told them four hours and $400.00 just to come out. His hood was up so I asked "do you mind if I have a look" we found the cable to the starter was loose. I grabbed a socket and tightened it up and it started right up.

 

[T45]

seriously, add roadside assist to your insurance ...the annual cost is less that the hassle of carrying loads of tools (<$50). also, really need to think about safety these days and its increasing more dangerous alongside roadways.how much work is really going to get don along a hwy? the main exceptin is long distance traveleing, where some parking lot repairs are not out of the question. and maybe if you commute 1hr each way or something everyday(?) but in general, if you are spending the averae american spend ona car every year its like $8k in gas, deperciation ,insurance, repairs etcc...RA is nothing in that context for sure.

so I would mostly be looking to recycle tools you already have and not looking to buy lots of new stuff. a code reader and multi-meter are also pretty important, as are good lights (headlamp). decent gloves, paper towels, etc. the actual harline tools I think the need is pretty modest there just aren't that many repairs you need to think about doing on the roadside. and most likey, if you do a repair in a parking lot it will be at autozone or advanced or napa, wallmart/HD or something similar....and they will have tools inside if you need something.

I guess my views on this are evolving over time as I see roadside work becoming increasingly impractical and unsafe.

 

[Finky198]

This thread made me go back inventory to see what I'm missing. Im glad I checked had to make a list. Had a little help as well. Good Rainy Day

 

[finn]

I see why some of you have a 3/4 ton crew cab truck. You need it to Cary your "might need it sometime " emergency tool kit.

I normally carry a couple of screwdrivers, a few metric combination wrenches, and a pair of vice grips or channel locks.

 

[Fender1325]

Haha. Again this is more because I fix other people's stuff and yes, sometimes my own while out

 

[StormcrowAz]

It's nice to have something on-hand when you're in a pinch. Nothing impressive, mostly just extras of stuff I had laying around, and nothing close to high quality. It's already come in handy a couple times.

Shoved all into an old ammo can and secured to what I'm guessing is the spare battery tray in my Silverado.







Out of sight and out of mind unless it's needed.