This has GOT to be a scam....

[adamsredlines]

http://waco.craigslist.org/tls/3154084111.html

No contact info either....so if it is, they **** at that too. Sure wish it was legit though.

 

[adamsredlines]

(In case it gets deleted....)

Large Rolling Toolbox - $200 (Gatesville)

Date: 2012-07-21, 1:14PM CDT
Reply to: see below [Errors when replying to ads?]

Blackhawk by Proto 2 piece rolling toolbox. 63" tall by 55" wide. 24 drawers and top lid. Very good shape, but dusty. Price firm. $200

 

[Bob C]

Pobably legit. Proto boxes are not real expensive, maybe 995 new for that one. That box is thin just like the hobo freight boxes.

 

[chris6278]

Id pay $200 for it in a second!

 

[Hoyer Motorsports]

Pobably legit. Proto boxes are not real expensive, maybe 995 new for that one. That box is thin just like the hobo freight boxes.

If you think the Harbor Freight tools boxes are thin you are uninformed.
I almost take offense to that statement. These actually no better toolbox on the market for the money than the 44" and the 56".
They're far far better than craftsman and kobalt. Built as tough as Matco for 400% less money.

To the OP, save your money and buy from HF.
You'll be happier in the long run.

CH

 

[adamsredlines]

I have a HF 44 but would pick this up in a second if there were contact info to replace my CM.

 

[Bob C]

If you think the Harbor Freight tools boxes are thin you are uninformed.
I almost take offense to that statement. These actually no better toolbox on the market for the money than the 44" and the 56".
They're far far better than craftsman and kobalt. Built as tough as Matco for 400% less money.

HF in my backyard. (1000 Feet up the street on the other side. I go there alot. Those boxes are cheap and very thin. If you like them, thats fine. Everybody buys as they choose. Thats why there are many manufactures of boxes. I would not have a HF box if it was given to me. Bottoms sag. Drawer depth is half of a good quality box. Yeah I've looked them over alot. Looked alot of their stuff over. They have great buys if you do not need top quality or do not have a ton of cash. Everyday I see lots of customers carrying bags of stuff back into that store. Now why would that be? It's simple, they are returning it. Why? Easy to guess isn't it? HF isn't my type of store. I would rather pay $200 for a good grinder or $350 for a good sander or $4500 for a good box. When I have to return stuff, it is costing me time. MY time. That's unacceptable.

Built as tough as Matco? LOL! OK! If YOU say so. Mama says "You get what you pay for" Good luck to you sir.

 

[chris142]

I have about 500lbs of sockets in the top drawer of my hf box. I must have got a good one as no drawers are sagging. it replaced a craftsman box that did fall apart.

 

[lennoxlennox]

I have about 500lbs of sockets in the top drawer of my hf box. I must have got a good one as no drawers are sagging. it replaced a craftsman box that did fall apart.

You have 2000-5000+ sockets in your top drawer? amazing! Those drawers sure are bigger than they look!

 

[Lookin4'67Galaxieconv]

HF in my backyard. (1000 Feet up the street on the other side. I go there alot. Those boxes are cheap and very thin. If you like them, thats fine. Everybody buys as they choose. Thats why there are many manufactures of boxes. I would not have a HF box if it was given to me. Bottoms sag. Drawer depth is half of a good quality box. Yeah I've looked them over alot. Looked alot of their stuff over. They have great buys if you do not need top quality or do not have a ton of cash. Everyday I see lots of customers carrying bags of stuff back into that store. Now why would that be? It's simple, they are returning it. Why? Easy to guess isn't it? HF isn't my type of store. I would rather pay $200 for a good grinder or $350 for a good sander or $4500 for a good box. When I have to return stuff, it is costing me time. MY time. That's unacceptable.

Personally, I think you're full of sh/t.

 

[Pro-Painter]

Ive got to ask... If you think the HF boxes are "thin" then what do you consider a well built box? Snap-on?

Well, I have a new Snap on 40" box and a HF 44" box and to be honest, the HF is slightly thicker because of the thick powder coat. The metal they are made of is the same gauge.




To the OP, I had a chance to buy that box, well the top of that box anyway for $250 at a scratch and dent store. It had a rather large dent in the top lid, but the drawers work perfect. The reason I did not buy it, is because the metal was too thick. It would have been very hard to beat out the dent and me being a body guy, I could have never left it alone. I check the price of it new and it was $1200 for the top, and $2400 for the bottom. So in other words, its a scam.

 

[Bob C]

Personally, I think you're full of sh/t.

Opinions vary.

 

[TwoInch]

Opinions vary.

saying a box is thin is not an opinion...

craftsman boxes are thin and flimsy. the HF boxes are not thin or flimsy. same gauge as many high end boxes, and many people have owned them for extended lengths of time, with no sagging or problems whatsoever. its not opinion, its fact.

you dont own one, and you have only seen them in the store... so how do you know the bottom sag? are you saying they sag empty at the store??

they are very well accepted, and have been through the ringer. they are the very best bang for the buck out there. they are very tough boxes.

saying something is ****, is opinion. having nothing to back it up makes you look like a fool.

 

[zuk123]

So if it's a scam, how does the scam work?

What is the benefit? To whom? (if it's stolen, it's not a scam, it's something else. but look at its surroundings, I'd believe it was the seller's.)

And why is it a big surprise to see an off-name tool (I know, it's not really, but most people know 2 brands, Cman and SO) for 10c on the dollar? I bought a Kennedy top and bottom for $75 (10% of new) and it had machinist tools in it. I bought an older Cman top for $10 full of tools.

That's a lot of drawers for $200. Even if it's lower quality, put your non-daily used stuff in it, and free up space in your main box...

Jump on it -- it's been updated with contact info.

zuk

 

[TwoInch]

I go there alot.

HF isn't my type of store.


I would rather pay $200 for a good grinder or $350 for a good sander or $4500 for a good box. When I have to return stuff, it is costing me time. MY time. That's unacceptable.

Built as tough as Matco? LOL! OK! If YOU say so. Mama says "You get what you pay for" Good luck to you sir.

you go there a lot eh?

not your type of store?? hmmm....

HF has a lot of junk, grinders and sanders have nothing to do with boxes.

when you pay $4500 for a box, you are paying a very large portion of that for the name. a box that cost $4500 is not $4000 dollars better than the HF box. not saying they are the best box on the market, but they are damn good boxes, and not far off from those boxes that cost many times more.

 

[Outlawmws]

HF in my backyard. (1000 Feet up the street on the other side. I go there alot. Those boxes are cheap and very thin. If you like them, thats fine. Everybody buys as they choose. Thats why there are many manufactures of boxes. I would not have a HF box if it was given to me. Bottoms sag. Drawer depth is half of a good quality box. Yeah I've looked them over alot. Looked alot of their stuff over. They have great buys if you do not need top quality or do not have a ton of cash. Everyday I see lots of customers carrying bags of stuff back into that store. Now why would that be? It's simple, they are returning it. Why? Easy to guess isn't it? HF isn't my type of store. I would rather pay $200 for a good grinder or $350 for a good sander or $4500 for a good box. When I have to return stuff, it is costing me time. MY time. That's unacceptable.

Built as tough as Matco? LOL! OK! If YOU say so. Mama says "You get what you pay for" Good luck to you sir.

Personally, I think you're full of sh/t.

Ive got to ask... If you think the HF boxes are "thin" then what do you consider a well built box? Snap-on?

Well, I have a new Snap on 40" box and a HF 44" box and to be honest, the HF is slightly thicker because of the thick powder coat. The metal they are made of is the same gauge.




To the OP, I had a chance to buy that box, well the top of that box anyway for $250 at a scratch and dent store. It had a rather large dent in the top lid, but the drawers work perfect. The reason I did not buy it, is because the metal was too thick. It would have been very hard to beat out the dent and me being a body guy, I could have never left it alone. I check the price of it new and it was $1200 for the top, and $2400 for the bottom. So in other words, its a scam.

Opinions vary.

saying a box is thin is not an opinion...

craftsman boxes are thin and flimsy. the HF boxes are not thin or flimsy. same gauge as many high end boxes, and many people have owned them for extended lengths of time, with no sagging or problems whatsoever. its not opinion, its fact.

you dont own one, and you have only seen them in the store... so how do you know the bottom sag? are you saying they sag empty at the store??

they are very well accepted, and have been through the ringer. they are the very best bang for the buck out there. they are very tough boxes.

saying something is ****, is opinion. having nothing to back it up makes you look like a fool.

HF sells decent boxes, (The bigger "pro" level boxes, as many on GJ can attest) and they also sell utter shite. Make sure you guys are talking apples to apples.

With that, I'm out of this ******* match, where is the unsubscribe button for this thread...

 

[Bob C]

saying a box is thin is not an opinion...

I believe it is, just as much as you saying they are the best thing since sliced bread. It's an opinion.

you dont own one, and you have only seen them in the store... so how do you know the bottom sag? are you saying they sag empty at the store??
saying something is ****, is opinion. having nothing to back it up makes you look like a fool.

No I didn't say they sag at the store. They sag horribly when loaded with tools. I have many companys who are in my area drilling for natural gas and they use tools that they need to depend on and THOSE guys are the ones who tell me they ****. Their words. Yes, I go to the store as I STATED to see what new stuff arrived from china. I DID NOT say I buy there. I did notice how far out the drawers pulled. 10-1/4" inches. LOL, Yeah, great for the price!

Therefore, I have plenty to back it up. I have my customers who are the best testimonials.

 

[zuk123]

Seriously,

IF YOU SAY THIS IS A SCAM, how does it work? (Sorry to shout, trying to be heard over the pointless HF vs. the world comments.)

Who benefits?

zuk

 

[Charles (in GA)]

So if it's a scam, how does the scam work?

What is the benefit? To whom? (if it's stolen, it's not a scam, it's something else. but look at its surroundings, I'd believe it was the seller's.)

And why is it a big surprise to see an off-name tool (I know, it's not really, but most people know 2 brands, Cman and SO) for 10c on the dollar? I bought a Kennedy top and bottom for $75 (10% of new) and it had machinist tools in it. I bought an older Cman top for $10 full of tools.

That's a lot of drawers for $200. Even if it's lower quality, put your non-daily used stuff in it, and free up space in your main box...

Jump on it -- it's been updated with contact info.

zuk

Several possibilities. One is a bait and switch. The guy advertises it (using a pic he grabbed off the internet), you call, go and look at it, but when you get there, "it just drove away in a guys truck..... but I have this other one here (way less box) for the same money" You fall for it and buy the other box, when, otherwise, you would not have called on it.

There are several others I don't recall, hopefully someone else with a better memory will chime in and remind us.

Charles

 

[bobemmerich]

Well, I'll tell you what-If it were me, I'd be all over that. 200 is an awesome deal.

 

[zuk123]

Thanks Charles, I'm interested in hearing about any other versions too.

The bait and switch would bother me, but it would not be the end of the world, esp. since this sort of thing really does happen. "Well, as long as I'm here, what else do you have for sale?" I've seen other GJ'ers get good deals that way and CL buyers often ask me this question while they are picking up stuff.

I got an offer on my CL item and it was written just well enough that I responded. It mentioned the specific item, came by SMS on my phone (which meant they had good number harvesting software or a person), and passed my 'sniff test." The second response was personalized to me, had more about the item, but then started with the "I'll send a check, you pay the shipper and keep the rest" scam. Now THAT'S a scam. You are out your own money, and not just time. This was was very sophisticated. Reverse lookup of the number put it in a number pool in New Jersey. I told them I'd accept a Western Union money transfer! (typical scammer trick) That got rid of them quick

So, I'm very interested in CL scams and how they work. Gotta stay vigilant.

zuk

 

[TwoInch]

I did notice how far out the drawers pulled. 10-1/4" inches. LOL, Yeah, great for the price!

i see whats happening. you are talking about some other boxes.

the smaller of the two boxes, the drawers pull out 17" with 16" of inside useable drawer depth.

the larger box has in inside drawer depth of 19.5" with either 154lb or 220lb capacity depending on which drawer size.

not sure what boxes you are talking about.

but i can see everyone is sick of the ****, so ill be done. good day sir.

 

[Pro-Painter]

The scam is this: You see the ad, you call, text or email about it with no response. A day or two later, your phone number, and/or email address is bombed with spam. In fact, I got a text just this morning about lowering my mortgage interest rate because I called a "too good to be true" craigslist ad.
I also get 1000+ spam emails a week, several text and even a couple of phone calls all from placing my info on craigslist, and/or attempting to purchase something.


It may not fall in the textbook definition of "scam" but its the best word I can find to describe it.

 

[TwoInch]

The scam is this: You like the box, you call, text or email about it with no response and then your phone number, and/or email address is bombed with spam. In fact, I got a text just this morning about lowering my mortgage interest rate because I called a "too good to be true" craigslist ad.


It may not fall in the textbook definition of "scam" but its the best word I can find to describe it.

that sounds more likely.

use someone elses phone for the call to see if its legit?

you just never know. it owuldnt be the first time something like that has been sold dirt cheap.

 

[Pro-Painter]

you just never know. it owuldnt be the first time something like that has been sold dirt cheap.

And that is why I get so much spam I always think "this is the one!' and it always turns out to be fake. But you can bet your ***, that one day that deal will be mine!

 

[Jagmandave]

I wonder what I do differently with my Craigslist ads that I don't get the tons of spam that you guys do?

I've sold a bunch of stuff and bought stuff off CL and had yet to get bombed like that....

 

[SRX]

Would this be a scam? Mac Tool Box $200?

http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/tls/3155540326.html

 

[TwoInch]

And that is why I get so much spam I always think "this is the one!' and it always turns out to be fake. But you can bet your ***, that one day that deal will be mine!

like jagman dave, i have done quite a bit on craigslist, and im not having problems with spam or scams. everything has worked out well.

i may be getting some spam in my spam folder in the email, but i dont care about that.

that said, i try to stick with email stuff when dealing with craigslist, up until im actually going to gt something. i wont call numbers posted in ads usually. i figure, i wouldnt put my number in an ad, so would anyone with any sense do it either? when i sell something, i post the ad with only the default email, and if someone sounds legit, i will email a number to them.

 

[Lookin4'67Galaxieconv]

Yes, I go to the store as I STATED to see what new stuff arrived from china. I DID NOT say I buy there.

I go to the dollar store all the time, but I never buy there either. I just like to see what's new from China.

 

[Syndicate]

I would say send the email out. Seems like it is legit to me. And for the price, that is a helluva deal! You can not get that deal all the time, 2 large boxes for 100 apiece is a no brainer in my book. If it was a tad bit closer you would have pictures to look at in this reply as I sure would jump on that. I would put graphics on it and resell that bad boy for 1200 and would sell it in a day around here! Good luck if ya try and get it. I would be surprised it is still there though, you been gabbing here way too long imo, I am sure guy probably has had several emails on it!

 

[Toolhorder]

I almost take offense that someone buys a chinese tool box and then goes on the interweb and tells others his is just as good as mine and I overpaid. It's funny I've worked at a couple shops in my day and I never see pro techs with HF boxes EVER.

 

[philw]

If you think the Harbor Freight tools boxes are thin you are uninformed.
I almost take offense to that statement. These actually no better toolbox on the market for the money than the 44" and the 56".
They're far far better than craftsman and kobalt. Built as tough as Matco for 400% less money.

To the OP, save your money and buy from HF.
You'll be happier in the long run.

CH

I would nominate the Menard's Masterforce box. I picked one up about 3 years ago and I have it loaded down. I am even storing 3/4 drive stuff in it and haven't any problems. I will admit that it doesn't get moved around and it's not a daily user. I compared the HF and the Menards and the Menards seemed to be a step up from the HF. I don't like the color but other than that it's been great.

I have Kennedy mechanics boxes that were my primary box and they have been excellent also but I think I paid almost as much for my Kennedy 5 drawer 27" chest as I did for my Menard's 41" cabinet.

I wouldn't depend on my Menard's box or a HF if I were still working as a tech. I don't think they would stand up to the daily grind. I'd like to hear from techs who have used a HF box daily, maybe I'm wrong.

 

[woody 73]

I am not sure about:; "is it a scam "and I have no idea about" the thickness of metal;" but if it was in my town and is was not a scam I would have given the person the money.

In my area the guy would be asking to bang your wife, take your car, indenture your first born child, take your kidneys and charge you 2000 % interest till the day you die. So if it is on the up and up go for it; Hey bring it to my area and make a killing!

 

[losttechnician]

I'd like to hear from techs who have used a HF box daily, maybe I'm wrong.

I work in an industrial setting, and currently there are over 20 of the HF boxes in daily use. The company furnishes tools and boxes so has all the say in what is purchased.

The factory casters are NOT used, rather a square tube frame is constructed with large industrial casters, and the frame takes the load of the cabinet, tools, metal top, and large Wilton vise, as well as being able to transport the box over the large expanse of the plant on a forklift. The frame is constructed as to allow the box to be removed and replaced in case it is damaged somehow, same design as was used for the high dollar Craftsman and Kennedy boxes from years past. Is possible for something to happen not associated with daily grind that can destroy a box.

The mechanics actually like these boxes, and they have held up very good. They like them well enough that many of them (myself included) have purchased HF boxes for home. I have been at this plant for 2 years and the boxes had been in use for some time before I got there and are still going strong. A couple of guys have even painted theirs, one being white, several black, and one in fluorescent green.

I don't know how they would hold up on their own casters however, but the reason they are even in the plant is because the more expensive boxes did not hold up on their casters and had to be replaced, so cheaper boxes and metal frames were in order.

Daily use in and out of drawers, these things have held up real well. Getting pushed around the plant though, can't say since that variable has been removed.

 

[Bob C]

TwoInch, I'll concede to the fact it could be different model boxes. We are good.

 

[mopar01]

I have often wondered about "what if" being I went to HF and got a box and just filled it will my mac and snapon stuff. Jw what if the slides broke? Where would I get them? I guess I joined too late cuz when I was looking at boxes I wanted a mac, actually ended up buying a krl761b then selling it. Then bought a mac tech 1000 and more tools. Lol. I liked the layout of the tech 1000 better due to the drawes being deeper and bigger in hight. Still love the tech 1000 but always wondered abt the HF or even a kobalt .

 

[lennoxlennox]

The HF toolboxes are worth exactly what you pay for them and are priced accordingly and priced correctly.

Mac/Matco/Snapon etc boxes too are worth exactly what you pay for them and are priced accordingly and priced correctly.

These prices take into account a variety of issues including most importantly quality.

Any opinions touting HF quality vs a professional box is just your personal opinion and doesn't mean squat, all this represents is your justification for your purchase.

Likewise any opinions denegrating HF boxes again is your opinion based on your reasons for what professional or other type of box you bought and doesn't mean squat either.

HF boxes aren't worth the list price HF has, and it's debatable if their sale price is their true value - it would be somewhere between their sale price listed on their website and their coupons they issue. You are not getting a "bargain", that is their fair market value, otherwise, THEY WOULD RAISE THE PRICE.

Likewise, the same holds true for a professional box. The list price is not the true price but the average of the discounted prices.


Both sets of boxes are priced to market forces based on the value and quality the market says they are worth and are willing to shell out benjamins for - if the pricing is wrong, the pricing will change (up or down).

Any statement that says "value for money" the HF box is better is ********. That may be your perception. The box is worth exactly what you paid for it. If you are happy with your purchase and the application you are using it for - good for you, enjoy your box - but STFU on trying to put it in the same league of a professional box - it's NOT.

 

[Coach James]

From what I have read from other posters, HF actually has a pretty good customer service for parts.

Coach

 

[91bronc300]

I work in an industrial setting, and currently there are over 20 of the HF boxes in daily use. The company furnishes tools and boxes so has all the say in what is purchased.

The factory casters are NOT used, rather a square tube frame is constructed with large industrial casters, and the frame takes the load of the cabinet, tools, metal top, and large Wilton vise, as well as being able to transport the box over the large expanse of the plant on a forklift. The frame is constructed as to allow the box to be removed and replaced in case it is damaged somehow, same design as was used for the high dollar Craftsman and Kennedy boxes from years past. Is possible for something to happen not associated with daily grind that can destroy a box.

The mechanics actually like these boxes, and they have held up very good. They like them well enough that many of them (myself included) have purchased HF boxes for home. I have been at this plant for 2 years and the boxes had been in use for some time before I got there and are still going strong. A couple of guys have even painted theirs, one being white, several black, and one in fluorescent green.

I don't know how they would hold up on their own casters however, but the reason they are even in the plant is because the more expensive boxes did not hold up on their casters and had to be replaced, so cheaper boxes and metal frames were in order.

Daily use in and out of drawers, these things have held up real well. Getting pushed around the plant though, can't say since that variable has been removed.

That's good feedback and I believe you. Thanks for posting.

 

[mopar01]

I hope you weren't refering to my post there lennoxlennox cuz I wasn't putting them in the same league at all. Just herd a lot of good stuff on this site about the HF box. And **** you can't blame a guy for wondering. I work in a truck shop and wonder how it would stand up. It may crumble or it may stay stong. O well. Not guna buy one cuz I already got a good box. And my old c man is holdin strong for the home box. And ya iv I get what ur saying. Had a guy ***** day aft day abt my mac and snap on stuff saying his mit and other **** was just as good untill I put a coulpe of his cheap *** extensions on my impact and snapped the drive part that goes into the socket.