This of worth to anyone?

[TheSasquatch]

I have a 3/8 craftsman very coded sliding breaker that the bar is bent. I got it in a toolbox with a bunch of other stuff. So before I go trade it in and they give me some chinese **** and throw this away I wanted to see if anyone would want it if there driver part had broke or to use on something else. I feel bad throwing this to the wolves cause I don't use them and would just want the gift card anyways over a replacement.

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[Outlander]

I thought there was a breaker bar I did not have, the "curved handle breaker bar"

 

[TheSasquatch]

I thought there was a breaker bar I did not have, the "curved handle breaker bar"

Mainly seeing I'd anyone was interested in the drive. The handle is junk I know.

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[jd_1138]

Mainly seeing I'd anyone was interested in the drive. The handle is junk I know.

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Actually it might come in handy to clear an obstruction.

 

[d.mcfarland]

So you got a junk tool for next to nothing and now want to take it to Sears and have them give you a gift card for the full retail price of a new one?

Sounds about right.

 

[Mechanical Noise]

So you got a junk tool for next to nothing and now want to take it to Sears and have them give you a gift card for the full retail price of a new one?

Sounds about right.

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[Richard Cranium]

happens all the time.
I knew when I read this that some one would give him **** about returning yard sale/discounted tools to sears.

 

[Jeremy77]

Likely to get a U.S. made replacement. It's not as if those sliding T handles exactly fly off the shelves. Before our local Sears closed, they had quite a few of those as well as speeder wrenches that were still U.S. NOS.

 

[firworks]

Neat, looks like an obstruction T-handle. Don't see too many of those!

 

[freudianfloyd]

So you got a junk tool for next to nothing and now want to take it to Sears and have them give you a gift card for the full retail price of a new one?

Sounds about right.

I don't understand why this is such a problem on this site. What difference does it make if he takes it back or the previous owner took it back? Its a broken tool that has a warranty. I dont see a problem. If you bought a broken used car that was still under warranty, are you telling me you wouldnt take it to the dealer to be repaired, you would pay out of pocket to fix it?

 

[TheSasquatch]

So you got a junk tool for next to nothing and now want to take it to Sears and have them give you a gift card for the full retail price of a new one?

Sounds about right.

So under that same logic, you buy a craftsman ratchet used. Use it 1 time and it breaks, you're not going to go warranty it?

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[d.mcfarland]

Car warranties have time frames...

 

[Rileysan]

Car warranties have time frames...

I've never seen a car with a "lifetime warranty" and if we paid to obtain a lifetime warranty, we couldn't afford the car.

While the definition of "lifetime warranty" have changed for Sears, it has not changed for Proto, SK, Snap-on, MAC, Matco, Cornwell, and so-on.

There's nothing wrong - either ethically or legally - with returning a lifetime warrantied tool for replacement.

Brian

 

[lutter94]

Dodge and Chevy have both offered lifetime warranties over the years. We have a 92 suburban still under warranty, as the original owner is still on the title. It's had the engine ****** and rear end replaced. My cousin has a 08 Dodge 1500 with lifetime. I want to say it was about $8000 more.

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[zkling]

Why not just straighten it with a press.

 

[d.mcfarland]

There's nothing wrong - either ethically or legally - with returning a lifetime warrantied tool for replacement.



Brian

So the ethics judge arrived .. And determined that buying a broken 50 year old tool for pennies and returning it to the retailer demanding a gift card for the CURRENT full retail value because the replacement is "Chinese" is ethically perfect?

False. To start the OP would only be entitled to the original purchase price. Second the warranty states repair or replace. Not give a gift card if you don't like that warranty restriction. Right?

 

[Strouty]

I don't understand why this is such a problem on this site. What difference does it make if he takes it back or the previous owner took it back? Its a broken tool that has a warranty. I dont see a problem. If you bought a broken used car that was still under warranty, are you telling me you wouldnt take it to the dealer to be repaired, you would pay out of pocket to fix it?

While I don't have a problem returning a broken tool as a "new" owner to a "used" tool, this one was abused, not broken. No way someone bent that without a pipe or cheater.

 

[Gear Wolf]

The warranty is a LIFETIME guarantee, save obvious abuse, neglect, or modification. Don't forget that this warranty is built into the price structure.

I've had dud tools from all professional US brands. It does happen, albeit rarely. Who can really say exactly this tool came to be as it is now? Regardless, it can be turned in for a new tool.

Sure, this is an old tool and is 2nd hand; however, the warranty still stands. Harking to the automotive example, I have bought vehicles where the long term warranty follows the vehicle and not the individual.

 

[Empty Pockets]

I have from time to time had to warranty a tool, from various manufacturers.

If the truth be told, with few exceptions, I couldn't tell if I bought the tool (whether new or used) if it cane to me through my father's estate or my grandfather's estate.

If a tool breaks, and I didn't abuse it, I won't hesitate to turn it in under warranty.

 

[Hawk]

That is how a lot of mine like that have ended up other the years, right before they ended up in the trash can.

 

[Rileysan]

So the ethics judge arrived .. And determined that buying a broken 50 year old tool for pennies and returning it to the retailer demanding a gift card for the CURRENT full retail value because the replacement is "Chinese" is ethically perfect?

False. To start the OP would only be entitled to the original purchase price. Second the warranty states repair or replace. Not give a gift card if you don't like that warranty restriction. Right?

The ethics judge is the one who determines that lifetime warranty ends when the tool has been passed on to another owner. You are wrong. Period.

 

[Cruzan80]

The ethics judge is the one who determines that lifetime warranty ends when the tool has been passed on to another owner. You are wrong. Period.

Sorry, I must have missed where Sears says the "lifetime warranty ends when the tool has been passed on to another owner." Or is that your personal "ethics judge" belief?

From https://www.craftsman.com/customer-care/warranty-information:

WARRANTY SERVICE

To obtain the warranty coverage stated below, return the product to the retailer from which it was purchased. Coverage will be fulfilled according to the retailer warranty exchange procedure and may be subject to a limitation on the number of items allowed per exchange.

CRAFTSMAN (OR CRAFTSMAN INDUSTRIAL) HAND TOOL FULL WARRANTY

If this Craftsman (or Craftsman Industrial) hand tool ever fails to provide complete satisfaction, it will be repaired or replaced free of charge.

This warranty does not cover expendable parts that can wear out from normal use within the warranty period. *

 

[Corndoggeh]

happens all the time.
I knew when I read this that some one would give him **** about returning yard sale/discounted tools to sears.

I never saw a problem with exchanging a broken/half broken tool you buy at a yard sale. However, there are those that will buy a full set of sockets/wrenches and have them all exchanged, thats abuse.

 

[Olafur]

And you are wondering why Craftsman is sourcing tools from China now?

BTW it seems going overboard with warranty is part of the reason why US MFG's are going **** up. Exchanging some 30 year old **** someone found in a dumpster for brand new tool makes no sense - it's pure nonsense!

Ps
I have come across Chinese tools surpassing US made craftsman in fit finish and strength. Yes even my 25 year old craftsman set that was absolutely spot on regarding the old saying - you get what you pay for. It was cheap!!

 

[four.cycle]

Funny thread.

Yeah.... the term is "ethics". Judging from some of the comments here it seems that some members believe there's something wrong about having what some of us refer to as "ethics".
The "lifetime warranty" applies to the original purchaser. No doubt it should be easy enough to dig up an old copy of the warranty where that proviso isn't explicity stated, so sure... okay... if you want to interpret the proverbial "fine print" to justify flim-flamming the manufacturer, go for it.

It's dishonest. It's cheezy. It's low-life stuff.

But hey, feel free to do as you please!

It will still always be LOW LIFE in my book.

 

[Cruzan80]

Sorry, not digging up an "old-copy" but Sears current website. Never heard this, except from experts on the internet.

Not going/ to get into a debate, simply stating what the manufacturer has listed.

 

[Mechanical Noise]

Funny thread.

Yeah.... the term is "ethics". Judging from some of the comments here it seems that some members believe there's something wrong about having what some of us refer to as "ethics".
The "lifetime warranty" applies to the original purchaser. No doubt it should be easy enough to dig up an old copy of the warranty where that proviso isn't explicity stated, so sure... okay... if you want to interpret the proverbial "fine print" to justify flim-flamming the manufacturer, go for it.

It's dishonest. It's cheezy. It's low-life stuff.

But hey, feel free to do as you please!

It will still always be LOW LIFE in my book.

It's the Sears Craftsman warranty and rules Sears wrote determine what's ethical. Where does Sears say the warranty is limited to the original purchaser?

 

[B_Bimmer]

While I don't have a problem returning a broken tool as a "new" owner to a "used" tool, this one was abused, not broken. No way someone bent that without a pipe or cheater.

Wrong, I bent one of those in high school, switched it, bent the next one as well, no pipe necessary. It then went to the scrap pile, wasn't worth it. I was putting all I could on it, braced against a truck frame, but still, I was a high school kid, that shouldn't happen. I have always wondered if it was a bad batch or if they were really that bad, but I have better tools now. The number of those I have seen bent over the years compared to how many people actually use them says they are just junk.