Thoughts on an inexpensive sockets set

[Downwindtracker 2]

I got 1/4,3/8, and 1/2 sockets in SAE and metric. the 1/4 are both 6pt and 12pt. Torx, metric and SAE allenhead sockets. Packets of screwdriver bits and a 1/4" hex adapter. Wrenches to 19mm and 3/4". Allen wrenches metric, SAE and Torx,

In hunting camp I've changed a Arctic Cat starter and pulled the front sheet plastic and bumper to get to a Can-Am rad. Damm grass seeds.

 

[Fluelikesymptoms]

If size skips are not a problem for you, Harbor Freight sets are reasonably good and expendable. Otherwise go with Tekton.

As much of a name brand, overpaying, idiotic fanboy that I am, it pains me in my stupid US made privileged **** to say, this is one of the few times I will agree with the almighty, superior, same or even better quality for less cash offerings of harbor freight.

In this situation I would go with the Pittsburg line from harbor freight, and spend a bit more on some form of organization. You dont want to be searching for a 10mm in the trunk past midnight. It doesnt have to be space consuming perfect organization though, just something to help a bit. Maybe some cheap locking rails. A couple nylon bags for screwdrivers and pliers and a box barely big enough to fit it in.

However, I have to say I would not buy those cheap Chinese Stanley sets from walmart everyone is suggesting. They are about as terrible as they get. I have broken those Stanley ratchets first use brand new. I have cracked those sockets all the way down the side wall fairly new. Pittsburgh pro will be good enough the few times you should need them and cheap enough that you wont even realize you bought the stuff. I cant say the same for the stanley sets. Even those Stanley sets that have 1 million pieces for 20 dollars is a waste of money, and more likely to fail and leave you stranded during a simple belt change or such, that would have otherwise been fine had you got something just a tad bit more.

Go with Pittsburgh or as mentioned some other reputable cheap Taiwan brand, over the dirt cheap Chinese sets.

I personally have old retired cman tools as my road kits. I wouldnt go out of my way to do that though unless you found a good deal.

 

[WittHay]

As much of a name brand, overpaying, idiotic fanboy that I am, it pains me in my stupid US made privileged **** to say, this is one of the few times I will agree with the almighty, superior, same or even better quality for less cash offerings of harbor freight. .

I think your comments apply to a lot of people. The first choice up here is the expensive brands whether that is US, Canadian, German or Japanese. Except when it comes to portable tool kits.

The most popular for years was Canadian Tire Mastercraft. Strong organized plastic case, unbreakable sockets, included SAE and metric, enough tools to do basic repairs and handyman stuff.

What I disagree with is that Stanley is no good. Thats all everybody uses. I have a new SBD Craftsman portable set, another guy has a John Deere, there is DeWalt and Stanley Fatmax. Most guys use either the Stanley or Mastercraft. None of this Stanley branded stuff is bought at Walmart.

 

[snickers muncher]

Duralast at AutoZone has a decent 45 pc 1/4 set with metric and standard in regular and deep that is Taiwan made. They usually have it for $15 every black friday and often have it for $20 on sale. Currently $30. If you can wait and grab it for the black friday price it'll be the best bang for buck in 1/4.

I keep a road kit in each car. They are a mix match, but everything fits in a 13"?? Craftsman tool bag. I replaced my brother's radiator in a parking lot and my parents alternator on the side of the highway in the middle of nowhere. They've gotten their most use, however, on multiple incidental repairs around others' house/work.

 

[mudflap]

It takes time but you can get some real good stuff at flea markets.

But the hunt is the best part......

 

[mudflap]

Most suggestions have been decent quality stuff... I keep good stuff in my go bags..If a tool lets go / fails at home or work...no biggie, i have 5 of everything at those places..road tools have to work..no back ups.

 

[kctyphoon]

Lots of great comments. Many that confirm my thinking and some that are expanding my thinking. Ideas like getting a wrench roll with some common combo wrenches. Also Including some torx and hex bits. Torx are more common and needed to change some light bulbs.

I currently have a tire plug kit and small air compressor that runs off of the cig lighter outlet. I keep one in my van and my car.

I am convinced to get the SAE too! As more than one suggested it may be used for non auto applications. Why limit yourself for only a few dollars. You never know When you are helping someone fix their snow blower, lawn mower, or assemble a grill. What ever!

In my original post I just threw out a few possibilities that quickly came to my head. Who knows what it could be? Who knows what kind of car I will be driving in two years? It is all an educated guess to cover the basics.

I find myself using my 1/4 drive sockets on cars a fair amount. Typically on sizes 13 and under. The often tight spaces make it desirable. I also like to use a nut driver handle often for speed. I have a proto nut driver that takes a 1/4 drive ratchet on the top of the handle for added leverage. Think of it as an extension with a wide grip. It is a nice tool. It seems only the tool truck level 1/4 nut drivers come with that simple feature.

Lots of ways to go and lots of options. That 200 pc Husky set is a great deal. I did not see it at my HD as I was there less than a week ago looking around for idea. I would have noticed that!

Thanks to everyone. I love tools and I will likely buy more stuff than I set out to do. That is the danger of looking for ideas on the Garage Journal.

The only thing I'd add - is if you don't go with a hf packaged mechanics set - I would put gearwrench and tekton at the top of my list for 2 reasons. One being you can get their COMPLETE 1/4" and 3/8" sets for about $100. Is that gearwrench promo deal still running?

What I mean is - their sets have NOTHING else but sockets - but they include EVERY piece you could want. No skip sizes, no ******** inside and they are ALL 6 point. Also - they come in 2 seperate cases. So this means you can store them in smaller places, and you're not pulling out an extra 5 pounds of tools you don't need if you just need 1/4" set for the task. With the 2 cases, you can then get a $5 small tool bag to hold everything else like screwdrivers, pliers ect.. it makes a very compact, lightweight, and small footprint set of tools that's VERY capable.

With some sets like husky/kobalt/Stanley ect - they can double up on sockets (esp in mechanics sets) where your getting the doubles of the same size sockets in shallow, a d then they skimp on sizes of deep sockets and u won't get all the same sizes . Some shallows will come in 6 and some in 12 point to up the tool count. It's unnecessary. Also - gearwrench (maybe tekton too) goes all the way up to 1" in their 3/8 set. I prob have a dozen different socket sets - and the gearwrench set is by far the most convenient and complete set I have.

It doesnt make sense to get a "mechanics set" that will come with nonsense like screwdriver 'tips', and only 5 wrenches - when you'll then need to get a full wrench set anyway and real screwdrivers.

 

[bwringer]

The stanley sets from wal-mart are my choice for car sets, mostly because of a decent case.

Yep, these are surprisingly decent for the small money, and you can waltz into any small town Wally World at 2:00 am and grab one while enjoying the freak show for free.

Tekton metric only set for the vehicle. Not a whole lot of use of SAE unless you're driving something really old.

Yep, this Tekton set would be my first choice. Complete, very reasonable price, and no useless inch garbage. I really, really hate sets that are bulked up with a bunch of **** I'll never use.

 

[johninct]

I use to carry lots of good tools in case of a breakdown on the road , but then I figured out that if I had tools, I can't safely do a repair because I don't have the parts, floor jack, going to get run over, etc. Now I carry only cheap tools or good tools that I have many extra of.

 

[Parrothead]

The real question is what repairs will you be able to actually do on the side of the road or parking lot, and at what inconvenience? Starter? Alternator? Battery? Coil pack? Distributor? Thermostat? Radiator? Hoses?

I’ve got a specific toolbox that I use on my junkyard runs, and the truth is it’s much smaller than you would think. It’s built for easy carrying and no thinking about what I’ll need.

If it were me, I’d figure out exactly what tools I’d need to do the jobs I’d be willing to do in those situations and evaluate if it makes more sense to buy a few sockets and wrenches verses a set and cases. If it’s a common car, YouTube will give you most of the answers you need. In my case convenience trumps practical and I just throw the 14” Plano junkyard box in the trunk for road trips. Anything within an hour of home is covered by my insurance and I get 3 free tows per car per year. All of the cars have a breaker bar and correct socket for the lugs in the trunk.

 

[cjarvis]

As an example of what Parrothead describes above, Tacomaworld has a published list of all the fastener sizes on the vehicles and the tools needed.

https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/complete-list-of-tools-sockets-and-wrenches-for-2nd-gen-tacoma.158302/

This was the starting point for my road kit and I've added things as I've found a need for them.

 

[Crazyjake8493]

For something to keep in the car for emergencies, I would just pick up a set or two from Harbor Freight. The Pittsburgh brand tools are just fine for that.

 

[WittHay]

A portable tool kit is not for fixing the vehicle its in. Its for fixing odd ball stuff that comes up. The most important tools are SAE, hex keys, a assortment of bits that you put on a spinner handle or ratchet. . The only extra tools you need are a hammer, crescent wrench and vise-grip.

Anything more you might as well tow a trailer with the jacks, air compressor, welder, tool cabinet filled with the best quality tools just like a service truck

 

[emeraldcoupe]

I have a Stanley set I carry in my truck, and it's also the set I bring to the junkyards . they have held up just fine.

 

[wolf_from_wv]

Duralast at AutoZone has a decent 45 pc 1/4 set with metric and standard in regular and deep that is Taiwan made. They usually have it for $15 every black friday and often have it for $20 on sale. Currently $30. If you can wait and grab it for the black friday price it'll be the best bang for buck in 1/4.

And, if you make 5 purchases over $20 with the rewards card, and get $20 free...

 

[Coach James]

I've used Kobalt sockets many times to repair my vehicles and gym equipment. A former student of mine worked part time in a BMW shop and all his sockets, ratchets and wrenches were Stanley. I have an old set of Husky sockets that has worked fine many times.

I bought my son sockets and ratchets from HF and they've worked fine for him.

The last four times I was stuck somewhere, three were battery related and one was a loose alternator. Any of the above brands would have worked fine to get me home.

Coach

 

[bob15]

Are we really STILL doing this?
This is like saying someone is stupid for putting a donut in his car as a spare - when there was nothing there in the first place. That its worthless to have anything less than a full sized wheel, and full sized tire - and you should carry that around for the next 8 or 10 years just “in case” you might need it. Some new cars dont even come with spares anymore. Lol

Granted - if someone is driving around in a $500 car riddled with problems that leaves him stuck once a month - i would think they’d be smart enough to not buy their socket set from the 99 cent store. Every brand he listed is a well known, solid, AFFORDABLE brand, with MILLIONS of people using them everyday without issues (some professionally BTW). If people are pulling engines and transmissions with the SAME brands he & others listed, I’m pretty sure he can put a new battery in IF the time comes.

The guy LITERALLY listed a COOLANT HOSE as what hes looking to POSSIBLY do with these.

Still doing what?

Giving my opinion? Yes. If you don't like it tough.......

Quality screwdriver from HF? You mean like the one my co-worker had at work, he spun the handle and the blade didn't. That is what I want to carry for an emergency tool? It failed after only a couple times of using it. If this was on the side of the road, then what? But I guess, according to you, My idea of having a decent brand screwdriver (and a few minor hand tools) in a vehicle (like a couple old Stanley comfort grips) is poor idea.

 

[nbpt100]

I think one of the more important questions would be what tools do you really need.

These are two socket sets that strike me as good values at the low end of the market, around $50 rather complete 1/4 and 3/8 drive sets.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000KE6E1U/?tag=atomicindus08-20
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LWT0NGH/?tag=atomicindus08-20
But you would still need screwdrivers, sockets etc.

I've tried to think about what would I hypothetically want in a road tool set. My last two on the road failures were a starter and an alternator. The starter was easy but seemed to require a very random assortment of socket sizes. The alternator had some access problems and getting it with one of the above kits would have required removing the under tray from the car. That would have required jacks, stands etc. I'm not likely to bring all that.

That 69 pc black oxide Stanley set looks nice. I like the layout. It does not waste much space. it does not use the top cover for storage but I assume it is much thinner than those that do.

 

[CR888]

Early in the thread folks were advising small 12pc cheap sets to meet the OP requirements, he only wanted metric. Now 2/300pc sets in 3 drive sizes with both standard & metric are apparently what we 'think' he needs. If he takes on board all this advice, his car will be more like a service truck, hell if he really buys half of this it'll be closer to a tool truck.

 

[Parrothead]

Early in the thread folks were advising small 12pc cheap sets to meet the OP requirements, he only wanted metric. Now 2/300pc sets in 3 drive sizes with both standard & metric are apparently what we 'think' he needs. If he takes on board all this advice, his car will be more like a service truck, hell if he really buys half of this it'll be closer to a tool truck.

That’s what these threads usually digress into if they go long enough. You need an entire set of every socket, ratchet, and wrench ever made so you can rebuild the transmission on the side of the road in the desert. Oh, and don’t forget to go to every swap meet for miles around every weekend sourcing only quality USA made tools. Heck, if the thread goes long enough they’ll be driving around with a maxxjack and an air compressor in the trunk.

 

[bargainhuntingking]

As someone mentioned earlier, Canadian Tire has a 122 piece "Stanley 175th Anniversary Limited Edition Mechanics Tool Set" on sale with 1/4" and 3/8" drives, with screwdriver, torx and specialty bits for $53 US. Sale ends 9/12. The low profile case is solid. Just grab a 12" tool bag from Harbor Freight for $5 and fill it with whatever else you might need, and perhaps get a breaker bar, and you should be good to go.

https://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/stanley-special-edition-socket-set-122-pc-3994402p.html#srp

https://www.stanleytools.ca/product...et/stanley-122pc-mechanics-tool-set/stmt82651

I'd never been to Canadian Tire so I logged on and looked at the current sale flyer. There are some good weekly deals there. I ended up buying that Stanley Kit and a 10 piece set of extra long Gearwrench ratcheting double box end wrenches also on sale for $75 US.

https://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/...g-box-end-ratcheting-wrench-set-0580238p.html

Both have lifetime warranties.

If you live near one, it may pay off to look at their weekly sales flyer. It looks like they have some good tool deals on occasion.

 

[Fluelikesymptoms]

I cant believe this many people are recommending those Stanley sets.

I'd just go get a Pittsburgh set and move on.

 

[Tallpilot]

I cant believe this many people are recommending those Stanley sets.

I'd just go get a Pittsburgh set and move on.

Hard to say but I’m getting the impression the Stanley set sold in Canada isn’t the same as the one sold in the US at Walmart. That tracks with my understanding that many large consumer goods companies make special lines to meet Walmart’s price point.

 

[seber]

So this thread got me to step over to the Stanley tools in Walmart. Just a quick look tells me these are pure ****. I believe Tallpilot is right, there must be a disconnect between Walmart Stanley and those bought elsewhere. I'm pretty sure no one would recommend what Walmart is pushing.

 

[bwringer]

Walmart is generally open 24/7 and they're freakin' everywhere.

Harbor Freight's hours and locations are very limited.



In a pinch at midnight, the **** at Wally World will get you going again. And they have batteries, oil, bulbs, etc.

If you're in an area where they have Meijer stores, they stock a VERY nice assortment of Tekton stuff and they're open 24/7.

With time to spare, then yeah I'd probably hit HF for the Pittsburgh Pro stuff, maybe move up to the new "Quinn" brand stuff. I'd look for the stuff made in Taiwan. Or I might order up some Tekton stuff from their website.

The plain old Chinese "Pittsburgh" stuff at HF is pretty nasty, but then again you can get a lot of general tools in a kit that would get you through a lot of situations for $30.

Lots of options, depending on priorities, tastes, timeline, situation, and budget.

 

[nbpt100]

I think I will go with this for now.
https://www.harborfreight.com/51-pc-sae-metric-socket-set-63013.html

I will throw some torx and philips bits in my bag with the screw drivers and pliers and a can of Blaster. I am also thinking about some box wrenches in a roll. Have not got that far yet.
Should be good enough and if I lose anything I would not care.

Thanks!

 

[bargainhuntingking]

OP, that's a nice sized and priced kit. If they have the "Pittsburgh Pro" version, I'd pay extra for the "Pro" version, as there is a noticeable step up in quality.

I don't know much about the quality of the 122 Stanley kit I bought. Time will tell. The laser "etching" doesn't inspire confidence, as it looks like paint that will rub off with use. Luckily, the socket sizes are also embossed on the blow molded case, which is solid and grips all of the components well. I took some pics comparing it to a similar Craftsman set I bought 20 years ago. The Stanley kit is made in China, not Taiwan.

The Craftsman set has a 1/2" socket wrench and sockets, and came with a full set of loose hex wrenches in a bag and some combination wrenches. The Stanley kit has more screwdriver tips and a full set of torx bits, but no 1/2" stuff.

I like the storage of the extra compartment in the Craftsman kit as I can add other stuff as needed (duct tape, multimeter, electrical wire and tape, steel bailing wire, knife, lighter, hose clamps, paracord, folding hex/torx keys for convenience [it's a pain to sort out loose hex keys in bag], cheater pipe which fits over a small breaker bar, stubby 1/4" flex head socket wrench, two crescent wrenches, vise grips, channellocks, trauma shears, a variety of socket wrench adapters, tubing, and a few car specific tools, etc.)

I like the positive 4 latches on Stanley case, and the lower profile but another bag is needed if I want to bring more stuff. The Craftsman box is bigger, but can hold all the extras...EDIT...The screwdriver shaft just pulled out of the handle of the Stanley kit...not a good sign!

Ultimately, my car kit is cheaper quality/used stuff that I won't fret over if it's stolen, and it's really only in the car when I'm on a long road trip in my beater car, camping etc. I've enjoyed this discussion so far, lots of good and diverse opinions!

Best of all, I got to check out Canadian Tire and got a set of XL ratcheting Gearwrench wrenches (which I'd been eying for a couple of years now).

 

[dledinger]

I have several blow-molded usa craftsman sets that I use just for this purpose.

Today I’d probably buy gearwrench for comparable value.

 

[Citation]

OP, that's a nice sized and priced kit. If they have the "Pittsburgh Pro" version, I'd pay extra for the "Pro" version, as there is a noticeable step up in quality.

I don't know much about the quality of the 122 Stanley kit I bought. Time will tell. The laser "etching" doesn't inspire confidence, as it looks like paint that it will rub off with use. Luckily, the socket sizes are also embossed on the blow molded case, which is solid and grips all of the components well. I took some pics comparing it to a similar Craftsman set I bought 20 years ago. The Stanley kit is made in China, not Taiwan.

The Craftsman set has a 1/2" socket wrench and sockets, and came with a full set of loose hex wrenches in a bag and some combination wrenches. The Stanley kit has more screwdriver tips and a full set of torx bits, but no 1/2" stuff.

I like the storage of the extra compartment in the Craftsman kit as I can add other stuff as needed (duct tape, multimeter, electrical wire and tape, steel bailing wire, knife, lighter, hose clamps, paracord, folding hex/torx keys for convenience [it's a pain to sort out loose hex keys in bag], cheater pipe which fits over a small breaker bar, stubby 1/4" flex head socket wrench, two crescent wrenches, vise grips, channellocks, trauma shears, a variety of socket wrench adapters, tubing, and a few car specific tools, etc.)

I like the positive 4 latches on Stanley case, and the lower profile. But another bag is needed if I want to bring more stuff.

Ultimately, my car kit is cheaper quality/used stuff that I won't fret over if it's stolen, and it's really on in the car when I'm on a long road trip in my beater car, camping etc. I've enjoyed this discussion so far, lots of good and diverse opinions!

Best of all, I got to check out Canadian Tire and got a set of XL ratcheting Gearwrench wrenches (which I'd been eying for a couple of years now).

Wow! That is exactly the Cman kit I started off with. That and a set of wrenches were there hand tools I used to put the head on my out of college car. I agree the storage part was really nice to have.

 

[CR888]

That’s what these threads usually digress into if they go long enough. You need an entire set of every socket, ratchet, and wrench ever made so you can rebuild the transmission on the side of the road in the desert. Oh, and don’t forget to go to every swap meet for miles around every weekend sourcing only quality USA made tools. Heck, if the thread goes long enough they’ll be driving around with a maxxjack and an air compressor in the trunk.

Your not wrong. Earlier a 12pc metric set for $16 bux looked like it would fit the bill, now multiple cases of complete master mechanic sets are the ticket. Maybe he needs a new tow hitch to haul his tools trailer. How dare folks suggest Asian made tools that will fail at the site of work when you need them most. USA made vintage old tools must be sought one by one if he's serious about changing a tyre or tightening a battery terminal.

 

[kctyphoon]

Still doing what?

Giving my opinion? Yes. If you don't like it tough.......

Quality screwdriver from HF? You mean like the one my co-worker had at work, he spun the handle and the blade didn't. That is what I want to carry for an emergency tool? It failed after only a couple times of using it. If this was on the side of the road, then what? But I guess, according to you, My idea of having a decent brand screwdriver (and a few minor hand tools) in a vehicle (like a couple old Stanley comfort grips) is poor idea.

Did he get those screwdrivers from the same hf that sells the same jack as snap on for like 1/3 or 1/4 the price? You want testimony on the Hf pro screwdrivers? Ask around. MANY people on here have them with good things to say.

 

[kctyphoon]

I think I have a husky set floating around that's identical to a Stanley also. The only difference being my husky is all black and the Stanley set was chrome.

 

[ou812zx]

Interesting thread........I have had good luck with Gearwrench as of late, and this particular set has been on sale for sub $100 from different vendors. This is what I carry in my rig for breakdowns.....I added some specialty tools in the top of the box/cubby, including gloves, rags, and my trusty Milwaukee 3/8" Fuel ratchet...

http://https://www.homedepot.com/p/GearWrench-1-4-in-and-3-8-in-Drive-Mechanics-Tool-Set-143-Piece-80938/303742181

 

[kctyphoon]

Now that I’m on a keyboard:

The cheap tool kit I usually recommend is the gearwrench 1/4” and 3/8” socket set. If the promo is still running it should be around $100 for both. If not, look at the Tekton sets, or any decent well rounded socket set. For wrenches i say tekton sets. If you want full sets of combo wrenches, you can get 15 piece sets in metric and sae for like $90 ($45 or so for each) and HF wrench rings to hold them for $2. HF Pittsburgh pro screwdrivers are like $9 for the set. Pick out a 3 or 4 piece set of decent cheap pliers, a utility knife, some tie wraps, black tape, a headlamp, and gloves. Throw all those loose tools in a small contractor style tool bag.
The only 1/2” tools I’d get would be the extending 1/2” hf ratchet, and the flip socket lugnut socket set from HF or HD. Ditch the case for the flip socket set - throw that in the bag too.

99% of what you ever need to do can be accomplished with whats listed above. Its a very cheap, very small, very capable tool set. Its 3 small cases that can split up in the trunk / spare tire compartment and get crammed into small places. Add a small lithium jump pack, can of fix a flat, and youll be able to deal with just about anything, roadside or otherwise.

 

[kctyphoon]

I think I will go with this for now.
https://www.harborfreight.com/51-pc-sae-metric-socket-set-63013.html

I will throw some torx and philips bits in my bag with the screw drivers and pliers and a can of Blaster. I am also thinking about some box wrenches in a roll. Have not got that far yet.
Should be good enough and if I lose anything I would not care.

Thanks!

Everyone is thinking it. I’m gonna say it.. dont buy that.
If youre on a tight budget, just get a decent socket set for now. (You’re skimming the bottom of the barrel with that). You can always add to a socket set with other things later on.

 

[Parrothead]

I think I will go with this for now.
https://www.harborfreight.com/51-pc-sae-metric-socket-set-63013.html

I will throw some torx and philips bits in my bag with the screw drivers and pliers and a can of Blaster. I am also thinking about some box wrenches in a roll. Have not got that far yet.
Should be good enough and if I lose anything I would not care.

Thanks!

Everyone is thinking it. I’m gonna say it.. dont buy that.
If youre on a tight budget, just get a decent socket set for now. (You’re skimming the bottom of the barrel with that). You can always add to a socket set with other things later on.

I just clicked that link. Umm...no. Just about anything else would be better, including the Walmart Stanley. Please don’t.

 

[metlmunchr]

Agreed. Those particular HF ratchets bring back memories of the Globemaster displays in the dime stores years ago. 5 screwdrivers for a dollar, and that was 90 cents more than they were worth.

 

[kctyphoon]

Yea - when the elite on here bash on HF - socket sets like that one is what gives their claims merit. HF has different tiers of tools, and that's not one that's considered a good choice. There are better choices, at the very least - something more complete with their better style of ratchets.

How bout this - if you have a tight budget, post what you can afford to spend on JUST a socket set (please don't say $15 lol) and people here can help you hunt down something in that budget. If money is tight (and there's nothing wrong with that, I was jk) Craigslist might be a good option for you. I don't even wanna say it - but the holidays are not far off and HD always has some socket sets on sale. If you can come up to even the $40-$50 range there's MUCH better choices than what u picked.

 

[sberry]

I cant believe this many people are recommending those Stanley sets.

I am not sure how many variations Stanley has but,,, most of this stuff works and it would be a lot different if this was an expensive purchase but this stuff can pay in a single event. .

 

[visionguru]

My thoughts for trunk toolkits:

$45!

Or

for $97

I have the same tool box, it was $40 by itself.