Tile for Out Door Deck?

[dirtrunner0519]

We are looking to do about 1000sf of deck space. Trex and similar products are simply out of price range with this size of deck, we could do simply wood. But we like the look of the modern wood tile better.

I found a system called "Outdoor Flooring Systems" so you can use standard porcelain tile. http://outdoorfloorsystem.com/?component=GX08

Any suggestions or experience with something like the above mentioned system.

I also attached the drawings for the decking support.

 

[audioworks04]

I wouldn’t think that by the time you installed 3/4in subfloor plus cement backer board then tile, thinset and grout that it would be cheaper than trex, in fact I would guess it to be significantly more costly.


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[850xpeps]

If you like it I’d say do it. I wouldn’t install trex. It moves way to much to make it look good imo. Can do nice mitres and hide stuff.


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[850xpeps]

I wouldn’t think that by the time you installed 3/4in subfloor plus cement backer board then tile, thinset and grout that it would be cheaper than trex, in fact I would guess it to be significantly more costly.


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Have you priced trex? Lol


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[quattro_sinko]

Have you priced trex? Lol


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In my area, standard color Trex is only 2-3X the cost of 5/4x6 PT decking. I'd be surprised if tile (laid traditionally or using the system the OP linked) could come in cheaper per/sq.ft.

OP: Where (in a general sense) do you live? I live in the Northeast, and because of that, am slightly biased against outdoor tile. If I was adamant about having it, I'd only do so on a slab. No experience with the system you linked. Do you have any idea what the sq. ft. price is? Looking at the system it seems like there would be savings on labor prepping the surface for tile.
I would be worried about the strength of the tile above the "hollow" areas in the substrate. I'd be concerned that if someone dropped a bottle in the wrong spot that you might be replacing a tile. Interesting looking system either way. Please update if you use it.

 

[dirtrunner0519]

I have priced Trex systems, the board alone is in the 8k, add in the SS fasteners that is about 2-2300 dollars.

Marine grade plywood is about 1k, plus backer board 800, tile 1.40SF 1400, misc material grout thinset 800, total 4k.

Those are just rough numbers. I have also had some friends that have trex and hate how hot it gets.

 

[850xpeps]

In my area, standard color Trex is only 2-3X the cost of 5/4x6 PT decking. I'd be surprised if tile (laid traditionally or using the system the OP linked) could come in cheaper per/sq.ft.



OP: Where (in a general sense) do you live? I live in the Northeast, and because of that, am slightly biased against outdoor tile. If I was adamant about having it, I'd only do so on a slab. No experience with the system you linked. Do you have any idea what the sq. ft. price is? Looking at the system it seems like there would be savings on labor prepping the surface for tile.

I would be worried about the strength of the tile above the "hollow" areas in the substrate. I'd be concerned that if someone dropped a bottle in the wrong spot that you might be replacing a tile. Interesting looking system either way. Please update if you use it.

My comment was toward normal tile installation like mentioned on 3/4 ply and the rest of it. Paying for the decking support the op suggested would be over and above and ya would cost more than trex on the average deck framing.

There is some options offered that had smaller hollows and also had fillers in the hollows. I think done right the tile would be a nice finish. That being said maybe a small retaining wall and some soil then a slab would be a better option for tiling.


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[dirtrunner0519]

I live in southern CA so i do not have to worry to much about rain and frost issues. We do get some Fog as we are very close to the ocean, but other then that sunny blue skies.

 

[quattro_sinko]

I live in southern CA so i do not have to worry to much about rain and frost issues. We do get some Fog as we are very close to the ocean, but other then that sunny blue skies.

Haha. Worlds apart from the -22 degree overnight temps we had earlier this week, and that we have on its way tomorrow. I would absolutely go tile if I was West (southern) Coast.

Please update with your progress!

 

[Kaizen]

I live in southern CA so i do not have to worry to much about rain and frost issues. We do get some Fog as we are very close to the ocean, but other then that sunny blue skies.

Your temperature swings will still be an issue. Going from 80 to what 110 in full sun? That heating and cooling would concern me. did you price that system out yet? looks fancy.
How high is this deck? No way you can just do a concrete patio or pavers? I'm guessing that system is not cheap. I I did it I think i'd use natural stone set with adhesive. Something large and uniform so easy to lay and weight will keep in place even if the adhesive fails.

 

[James-W]

If you go with tile you need to make sure the deck has no movement at all.

 

[dirtrunner0519]

Not sure it ever really hits 110 were i live. I would say high 80's i understand the tile will absorb the heat and get warmer, but not sure how much it will affect it.

I am still weighing in my options. Not sure what we will be doing, yet.

 

[Dakota00]

Heating and cooling is not an issue with tiles, as mentioned the key factor there can't be any movement in the decking for this tiled floor to last.

 

[Bigwheels]

We are looking to do about 1000sf of deck space. Trex and similar products are simply out of price range with this size of deck, we could do simply wood. But we like the look of the modern wood tile better.

I found a system called "Outdoor Flooring Systems" so you can use standard porcelain tile. http://outdoorfloorsystem.com/?component=GX08

Any suggestions or experience with something like the above mentioned system.

I also attached the drawings for the decking support.

I would check out the ditra matte system or osb with a schluter membrane and then porcelain my deck is 15yrs old domne the old school way felt roofing tar and 2 inch mud float

 

[dirtrunner0519]

I would check out the ditra matte system or osb with a schluter membrane and then porcelain my deck is 15yrs old domne the old school way felt roofing tar and 2 inch mud float

Bigwheels- Do you have any additional photos of what you did. I was thinking of doing the felt roofing tar and then the 2" mud float. Seems to work for roofing.