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Time to build the shed.

RoyBell

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Now that my concrete is done and grading is done I can start my shed.

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Pad is 10x15. My plan was to build 10x10 with a 5' overhang open to the outside for wood or whatever I want to keep outside. Something like this.

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I started pricing some pre-made ones like Tuffshed and they are way overpriced. 6K but not sure if that includes subfloor which I wouldn't really need.

Village requires permit and they want plans prior to issue a permit. Has anyone run across this? If I stick build it, do I just draw some basic plans on a napkin and say "this is what I am doing" or do they usually look for something from an engineer?

I would try and skate around the permit, but I got one for the concrete so they would know there was never a shed there.

Any thoughts? I figured the materials would be around $3,000 to build it myself with pad in place.
 
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I have no idea what you local municipality has for rules in-so-far as building construction, but I suspect it is very much similar to what wee have. Where I am you need to have a detailed building plan showing how the building is to be constructed and then you need to follow the building plans to the letter.

The above applies to any building that you need a permit to construct. If you build a small "garden tool shed" a permit is not required and you can make it pretty much any way that you want, within reason of course. But if it requires a permit, then you need to submit a detailed drawing and when completed it needs to be inspected. If you run electrical power to it, then you need a permit to do it and that needs to be inspected as well.
 
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RoyBell

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Messing around with some designs on cad today. I think elevation 2 is the best option.

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Conceptual design was around elevation 1. I think 5' outside might be wasteful.

2 bumps up shed from 10' to 12'. Makes window placement a lot nicer looking as well.

Elevation 3 is cool, but I have to contend with all the grade issues. I can make the double doors slide inside, but I am afraid the single swing door that I would use 99% of the time would be an issue letting right out onto the grass.

Plus it's massive and probably a lot larger than I need. Right now my shed is 9x9 (or 8x8?). 10x 12 would net me almost 30% more space, plus I am going to build a small loft on half of it for more storage.

Thoughts? I plan to do the overhang detail something like the picture below. That is the elevation that I will see the most from my house.

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What's everyones thoughts? My material estimate comes up to roughly $1500 before trim pieces and misc. I figure $2000 or less once it's built.
 

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Wow, Roy, building permits !!, that seems a bit harsh for a garden shed. Whilst here, we have building regulations/ planning applications, nothing would be needed for what your planning.

Design two, for me. :thumbup:, could you make the shed the full size of the concrete slab with the 5' overhang and the exterior deck over the grass. It would add some extra space .

Good luck
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Steve.
 
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RoyBell

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Yea, we need permits to do anything anymore.

I don't think I have enough room to leave the overhang on the grass. I want to extend my deck a bit as well and Don't want the roof on the deck.

Here's my current grade. If I build to the end of the concrete I would have to cut more of the dirt out.

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Generally the first inspection is prior to pouring concrete to check property setbacks, amongst other things. If you apply for a building permit now, you may have some challenges there.
 
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RoyBell

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I had a permit for the concrete pad, with plans for a shed on it. Everything is within their boundaries
 
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RoyBell

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After some deliberation last night, I have decided to go with elevation 3. I don't like taking the lawn mower out of the short wall because I am forced to pull it out of the shed up the hill. A door on the side, which is almost flat elevation is the better choice and easier to manage.
 
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RoyBell

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Got my permit back last week and started on construction.

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Not going as quick as I thought it would. Roof is on, just need to figure out siding and trim and work the doors in and I should be complete.
 
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RoyBell

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Been busy so back at it. Built and hung the doors this weekend and more painting. I can see the end. Just need to trim and flash the barn doors, and a little caulking at the joints and she's about complete. I wanted to trim out the gable ends a little more, so I will mock some pieces up once the doors are done to make sure it's not too much.

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