Timing belt install tools needed.

[Transman304]

Hello all, I have been working on automobiles for over 36 years. After attempting a timing belt change on a 2009 Chevy Aveo5 1.6 with variable valve timing I am seriously thinking I may be to old I have several resources for info and specialty tools to get most things I take in repaired and out the door. This thing is testing me! I have ALLDATA and On Demand5 so I have all procedures and specs available. My issue is finding the tools required. I have tried several contacts with no luck. Cant rent,beg borrow or find anyone I know that have these. Or has even done one with the VVT. Has anyone out there done one of these without the tools?and if so what have you used? I found a set to buy but price is very steep for as many times at it will be used. I have posted a pic of the tools. Any pointers to getting this thing finished would be greatly appreciated! Thanks

 

[ebasista]

How much did you find it for?

http://www.forcetools-kepmar.eu/WT-2689-Engine-Timing-Tool-Set-Vauxhall-16-18-16V

 

[Transman304]

$212 plus shipping

 

[KANSASBOY]

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FEP68JI/?tag=atomicindus08-20 http://www.lasertools.co.uk/items/pdf/Products/5549_Instructions.pdf

 

[KANSASBOY]

On this web the say you need a water pump tool J42492-A http://www.aa1car.com/library/timing_belt_aveo.htm http://www.autozone.com/autozone/re...epairGuideContent.jsp?pageId=0996b43f80cb31a5 http://www.aveoforum.com/forum/f94/timing-belt-change-2006-aveo-ls-my-new-detailed-write-up-10284/

 

[nicksnothereman]

Hello all, I have been working on automobiles for over 36 years. After attempting a timing belt change on a 2009 Chevy Aveo5 1.6 with variable valve timing I am seriously thinking I may be to old I have several resources for info and specialty tools to get most things I take in repaired and out the door. This thing is testing me! I have ALLDATA and On Demand5 so I have all procedures and specs available. My issue is finding the tools required. I have tried several contacts with no luck. Cant rent,beg borrow or find anyone I know that have these. Or has even done one with the VVT. Has anyone out there done one of these without the tools?and if so what have you used? I found a set to buy but price is very steep for as many times at it will be used. I have posted a pic of the tools. Any pointers to getting this thing finished would be greatly appreciated! Thanks

Since it's GM maybe you should contact kent moore directly; they make most of the GM specialty tools. Nothing they make is cheap though.

 

[BillK]

Trans,

I know how hard it is, especially for those of us that are in an automotive business, but if it was mine I would be paying one of my repair shop customers to do it No way i would pay $200 for tools that I would probably only use once or twice in my life.

By the way, I would use nothing but a GM belt on that engine. The heads get real expensive to fix when the belt gives up

 

[Professur]

Isn't that a suzuki in the first place? I was rather disappointed to discover that the timing chain on the ecotec engines is no more reliable than the timing belts of others .. and the failure just as catastrophic.

 

[joe_padavano]

I recently replaced the timing belt and water pump on my Volvo V40, which has a phasing device on the exhaust cam. I bought a generic tool (~$20 at Carlisle) to lock the two cam gears before removing the belt. Unfortunately, the phasing device in the center of the exhaust cam gear was so large that the generic tool did not fit. I'll add that this car has a temperature compensated timing belt tensioner as another variable.

At this point, I already had the car apart. I carefully indexed the old belt and gears (both cam gears and crank gear) by making matching dots on the belt and gears with a paint pen. I then transferred these marks to the new belt, to ensure that I installed it with the correct number of cogs between each gear.

At TDC, several of the cam followers were right on the peak of the lobes. Without the tool to lock the cam gears, it didn't take much of a nudge for the spring force to push the cams around. This got to be very frustrating, as every time the cams moved I had to realign the gears and start over, but I was finally able to get the marks that I had made on the belt properly aligned with the marks on the gears. Had I not made those marks originally, I'd still be messing with it. The proper tool to lock the gears would have made this a 30 minute job, but I don't plan to own the car for another 100,000 miles, so I shouldn't need to do it again. A different generic tool may have fit better also.

 

[DpSyChO]

Isn't that a suzuki in the first place? I was rather disappointed to discover that the timing chain on the ecotec engines is no more reliable than the timing belts of others .. and the failure just as catastrophic.

The Geo Metro = Suzuki.
I'm pretty sure the Aveo = Daewooo.

 

[Professur]

You're right ..Wiki has it built by Daewoo ... it was sold on the Suzuki lot as the Swift+, but not built by them. That's what through me. Thanks.

 

[George in Rancho Cordova]

Here's a brand new Blue Point for $60.00.

http://sacramento.craigslist.org/tls/4285328883.html

 

[79firebird]

Just take your time and light it up befor takeing it off and make marks and you will be fine. Ive done them on meany cars with out the tools they say are needed. Just the past 2 years ive done these off the side with out special tools. 1996 legend, 2003 lancer,2000 volvo, 2003 matrix, 2003 santifae 2009 mustang and a 2005 neon. As long as you dont hit anything they dont move

 

[Dynamic86]

I must of been lucky, all I needed was a tool to lock my crank pulley so I could get the nut off on a 05 civic. After that it was a breeze to change the belt.

 

[srmofo]

I havent done one with VVT yet either, but I can tell you a few of those tools in your kit look important. Namely that long pin.

Ive done a few vovlos that required tools to not only hold the crank, but also hold the cams in the upper head while you install it. Your tool kit vaguely resembles the same kit.

I would find out what each of the tools does, then see if I can do a work out around it. Dont worry about the pump, Ive used an adjustable on it before I made a wrench from the harbor freight set.

Alright found it

Camshaft Locking Bar
Camshaft Pulley Locking Tool (2)
Fly Wheel Holding Tool (2)
Tensioner Locking Pin
Locking Pin

The ones in bold I would be worried about needing.

Ive gotten around camshaft locking bars by using a piece of flat stock with enough tape wrapped around it to make it snug.

Flywheel holding tool. you could just use a socket and breaker bar or a piece of rod stock into the correct hole

tensioner lock pin looks awfully special, but a drill bit has always worked for me in the past

I have no idea what that other locking pin goes onto

 

[V70R]

Volvo's with VVT (single or dual) can be completed without a cam locking tool....rotate 90* degrees then rotate counter clockwise to TDC. If cam seals are being replaced then the cam tool is required, just did this on my R.