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Tips for going to a pick n pull?

JB740i

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Going on vacation soon to Daytona and they have a pick and pull run by LKQ near the Speedway. I did the Speedway driving experience there earlier this year but I may be more excited about the trip to the junkyard.

I won't have room to take a wheelbarrow or anything but what else should I know?

At home I've got a Ford Expedition, and 2000 BMW 740i and a '76 Toyota Land Cruiser FJ40 with a Chevy 283.

All that I really would like is a higher Amp alternator for the Cruiser (Taurus fan kills the battery quick) and need some window regulators for the BMW (doubt I'll find those).

If I found a BMW with the doors intact then what? Just yank on all the trim until I get what I want or do they get that kind of thing started before they put it out there?

I'll check their website for prices on seats. It'd be great to find a rear bench that would work in the Land Cruiser. Do they have dollys available or would I have to haul it up front on my back?


If all else fails maybe I can find someones lost tools out there.
 
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What tools to take is probably your biggest question. If I'm only going for something specific, I might just take whatever is needed to get that part, but a lot of times what I take will take a larger box just because I never know what I might find that I need. My local PNP has wheelbarrows available and they don't do much more than drain fluids and set the cars in the yard, maybe pull an engine or trans. Door panels and dashes get trashed pretty quick, especially if they had speakers in them.

As for the alternator, you might check into the pontiac transport van w/ rear a/c. I think they are about 140 amp. Not sure on the year or other specifics though.
 

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Ask before you start tearing apart doors to get the window regulators - some yards want to keep door assemblies intact and sell them whole.
 

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Tips from someone who likes to go to wrecking yards and goes to about ten locally;

Consider splitting your tools into to easy to get at parts.

One is to carry in with you, the other, which would be much larger, is tools you will return to get. You CAN'T leave tools unattended even for a minute in a wrecking yard, so anything you carry you will have to CARRY at all times.
All the yards I have been in have wheelbarrows for you to use.

Some will lift a car to let you get under it, or even cut things loose for you.
Don't plan on that.

You have to pull apart anything that hasn't already been pulled apart. Take your time pulling door panels, learn how yours come apart, makes putting the parts in your easier.

Small bits and pieces often fall into your pockets (that's why they charge a fee to get in).
You need the clips, etc. Those can cost a LOT at the dealer. The small nuts/screws/clips/hooks that you accidentally carry out are often worth more than the main part.

If possible have a cell (many don't work in wrecking yards, too much metal) and have a buddy/spouse etc. handy to look things up. Example, you call to find out if the 96 whatever is the same as the 97 whatever. Use of places like Rockauto.com can confirm part number interchangeability. See if the part from the 98 fits the 99 that way.
They seldom can answer any technical questions at self pull places.

Watch out for how you are charged. Example, a bumper is a bumper, without the marker lights, brackets, etc. at many places. Ask before pulling anything hard about how they will charge. What's included. Better to have that settled before spending an hour pulling something to find they want three times what you thought because it has extra parts.

If it is even slightly sunny, wear a hat. It gets HOT in wrecking yards. Black surface, no wind circulation, lots of reflective surfaces. I mean HOT.
Almost NO place will allow a torch of any sort. Can't risk fires.

Also almost no place will allow a jack. They glean them from the cars to keep you from using one in the yard.

They will often bring a forklift over and lift a car, if you need it.

Truck and car parts often have different prices. All car bumpers, so much, all truck bumpers twice as much, sort of pricing, is common.

Cars are often BADLY mixed. The guys working there only have a vague idea of where the XYX models are. They mix imports at many yards, as if they were all the same.

You can walk every corridor and miss the car you are looking for twice. You eventually get good at spotting models but it is not as easy as picking your car out of a parking lot as each car may be messed up, missing parts etc. enough to look wrong.

Places with the fixed prices on a large sheet are often more expensive, but easier on the mind to buy from. Parts where there is a non-posted list of prices (usually a woman sitting at a terminal, going by wrote) you have to be VERY careful of what they charge you. Example, a rubber washer will often be identified as a motor mount. A strut for a window will be charged as a shock absorber. You may find yourself explaining what the part is, several times.
Places with no price list where the employee just plain makes up the prices, is often the cheapest, but very subject to employees attitude.

Many, maybe most, have recycling charges levied by the government. This is often on each purchase, not each part. So you pay 1-2-3 extra bucks every time you go to the counter. Those places it pays to get everything at once.

Many places offer sales, specials and half off days. On half off days it is common to have to pay more for the entry fee. Example, 2.00 to get in normally, which goes to 5.00 on half price day.

You often can borrow a tool from someone else in the yard, but be careful when you lend the tool. Best to go along and stand there while they use it. Makes everyone happier.

OK, I spend too much time in yards...
 

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and pick up ever bolt you see laying around, They going charge you to enter the yard so you might as well get your money worth. Remember little things like cold start injector, ignitors, starter relays, are high dollar at dealers but a buck at the yard, so grab them.

a toyota ignitor is $500 at dealer. $4 at pick and pull
 

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Bring the crappiest tools you own that'll still get the job done. I spent half a day looking for a 13/16 deep socket I dropped somewhere. :mad:
 

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Know what tools you are taking in so that you can inventory them before leaving the yard. Best actually to inventory them before you move to the next car. It ***** to find out you are missing 50 or a hundred dollars worth of tools and have to go looking.
 

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I use an older external frame backpack to carry my tools in the yard. I have a larger box with tools that I don't use as much but may still need that stays locked in the truck. I can move much faster and easier through the yard not pushing a wheelbarrow. I have enough room in my pack for smaller parts. I also have a setup for tying parts to the bottom of the frame. These backpacks are usually really cheap as just about everybody wants internal frame packs now. They have a bunch of different pockets for your gear. I have been using one for a couple of years now. They hold up really well as they were designed to carry 30 to 40+ lbs of gear over mountain terrain. I always make sure to bring a snack and a drink or two with me. I normally carry a bottle of water in my pack. Latex gloves can be very nice to have as well. I have a friend of mine that normally goes with me and he carries a pack as well. This works out really well because we can carry a 1/2 load each. IE I carry a full set of standard sockets and he carries a full set of metric. Always remember to make sure the cars are stable before you get under them.
 

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Our U-Pull-It is awesome!

Once you get to know the employees the trip is much easier.

Take an old blanket to lay on.

Wear coveralls.Yeah,sometimes pocket items(fasteners and items left behind are found.My uncle scored a 32 pistol in the door pocket of a truck we were "referencing' once.)

We play a game that whoever finds tools there,gets to buy lunch for everyone.Dumb game,but finding a 1/2" drive Snap On ratchet is cool? The bums got Burger King that day.

Beware of bees,snakes,bats,spiders,rats and other unfriendly,domain-guarding critters! Yep,PB Blaster also fends off the beasties,if needed.

Never go sourcing parts alone.Dumb muscle is good to have when you find a near-new 700r4 trans for $100.More is better for anything automotive.

Sharpies,duct tape,snips,pry bars,camera,wrenches,pliars,b.f.hammer,chisels,vise grips,channel locks,screwdrivers/torx/allen wrenches and band aids.Or just use duct tape?
Should fit in a decent-sized tool box? We're lucky to have heavy duty wagons to tow our parts with where we go.
Have fun!
 

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I NEVER get parts from a pick n pull that are already partially worn out....it's fine if your getting a bracket, panel or something mechanical....but to buy an altanator or window regulator that already has half or more of it's life worn out? Why? Unless you like doing it twice.....

When you look at the price they charge your....your labor remove the part twice (from the pnp and then the old one from your veh) and then to install it....and hope it works.......with no assurances that it will last long.....not a good deal.

Get the window regulator on the internet....

For the alt....go to your local starter and alt shop....in many cases the guys can rebuild your alt for more output or they will take yours as trade in...not to mention that that they will give you some good advice as to what does and does not work.

Just remember the phrase...."You learn by your mistakes".......hence, why I am so frecking smart.....
 

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cordless impact, even the construction types with the 1/4" hex chuck and a socket adapter will save you a ton of time, just don't forget it there.

I haven't been to one in a while, I need to get an old car just so i can have the fun of picking and pulling
 

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I NEVER get parts from a pick n pull that are already partially worn out....it's fine if your getting a bracket, panel or something mechanical....but to buy an altanator or window regulator that already has half or more of it's life worn out? Why? Unless you like doing it twice.....
Have to respectfully disagree.
Yesterday, EGR for a friends Buick. New, 180 with tax, off line 165 10 days shipping. Wrecking yard 5 bucks, plus 2 bucks to get in. Twenty minutes to pull (five to find, five to pull, ten to look for interesting MG parts for another friend).
That valve will last the year or two at least, the lady will keep the car.
Got a starter out of a Metro with 18k miles on it, cost 10 bucks, put it in the Metro my wife uses around town two years ago. Still works fine. The stock Metro starter was ruined at 40k miles when it got soaked. Mostly those starters last 200k plus. New one is 160 locally. Rebuilt is 100, Local rebuilder (there is ONE) gets 80% of new as a standard pricing structure.
Needed a throttle valve controller for a friends nephew a couple years ago. New 368 bucks, only one place had them. Got two, at local pick a parts, one for 1.00 the other for 5.00 The 1 dollar one is still working, the 5 dollar one is in my spare parts shed, in case the first one ever fails.
When you look at the price they charge your....your labor remove the part twice (from the pnp and then the old one from your veh) and then to install it....and hope it works.......with no assurances that it will last long.....not a good deal.
Prices must be a lot better here on the desert, but I buy in San Bernardino, Ontario, Etiwanda, Fontana, etc. and prices are pretty good there, especially on half price days…
Really, I made many of the same arguments back when I ran autoparts stores… But prices on new parts have doubled and tripled on anything except very common parts.
Prices from the dealers are plain psychotic.
Also, parts last much longer than they used to. Cars last many times as many miles as they once did.
When an engine was worn out at 60k miles (back when I first got into parts) a starter needed replacing several times in that period.
Now a starter should be good for 150-250k. So when you lose one (parts always wear out on a bell curve) picking one off a car with 60k is not like it was in the 60s.


Get the window regulator on the internet....
Bought a bunch of them on the Internet, I like to add power windows/locks/keyless to anything that gets near my shop. Frankly, prices on the Internet are often higher than locally. Quality on new off line is often lower than used OEM.
Not always, but often enough that you could make a case.
For the alt....go to your local starter and alt shop....in many cases the guys can rebuild your alt for more output or they will take yours as trade in...not to mention that that they will give you some good advice as to what does and does not work.
Rebuilders used to be cheap. Labor costs, liability, business expenses, cost of money to keep the inventory, etc. have gone up to the point that rebuilt is more expensive than new import in almost all cases. And rebuilt import is totally out of line.
Around here we have one surviving rebuilder. He isn’t cheap, isn’t friendly (more coldly polite) and doesn’t give advice. Now down in Riverside there used to be a half dozen good ones, but I can’t testify to them still being there.

Just remember the phrase...."You learn by your mistakes".......hence, why I am so frecking smart.....
Seems to apply to lots of us LOL


My reasons to buy at wrecking yards, (self pull, as old style are often more expensive than new parts) include sweat equity. My time is less valuable since I am retired.
So I can save big bucks investing time that when I was putting in 100+ hour weeks wouldn’t have.
Other reasons; Many small parts are CRAZY expensive. Starter relays for 100 bucks, injectors for 160 bucks, etc. When you can get those for 1 or 2 cents on the dollar, you can afford to spend some time and take a few minor risks.
Recently I was bug hunting a Suzuki injection system. The six components cost 1600 bucks new. Or 25 total at the yard. At that price I could swap parts till I found the problem. Total cost, a couple hours and 25 bucks. The part that was defective was 900 at the dealer, the only place that sells it.
You have to have a LOT of disposable income before you can toss 1600 bucks (these parts are not returnable) at a problem and not care about the cost.
The dealership (closest is 95 miles away) wanted 300 just to diagnose it, and up to 3000 bucks to fix it.
I enjoyed spending the morning doing it. The savings I also enjoyed.

I mostly use Pick-A-Part for cars I am fixing for friends and family. The ones with lots of money use the dealerships, the rest of them just plain can’t afford to toss 1000 bucks at a minor problem, something I usually fix for 50 bucks worth of parts and free labor.
I couldn’t afford to help them if I was getting the parts at retail, as I am donating the time, and often the parts.
 

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"Quality on new off line is often lower than used OEM"

I own nothing but Toyotas, and i have been saying this for years! and Chris .. you must be near me somewhere, those are the same pick a parts i frequent as well.
 

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"Quality on new off line is often lower than used OEM"

I own nothing but Toyotas, and i have been saying this for years! and Chris .. you must be near me somewhere, those are the same pick a parts i frequent as well.

We have better ones on the Desert. The Ontario is good, but way crowded and dirty as I'm sure you know.
The Hesperia, Victorville and Adelanto places have more decent stuff for decent prices.
 
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Pick and Pull...Hmmmm. How come this name is never associated with other business? Like maybe a food joint or a nudie bar.
 
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Get the window regulator on the internet....

Just remember the phrase...."You learn by your mistakes".......hence, why I am so frecking smart.....

I prefer the phrase "learn from the mistakes of others, you'll never have enough time to make them all yourself"

However, here's from Rockauto.

DORMAN Part # 741487 {OE Solutions; Power Window Regulator w/Motor #51358125204}
Rear Right; Power Window Regulator w/Motor

$187.79 $0.00 $187.79


If it's $15 bucks at the junkyard and you get to mess up another car figuring out how to take it outta there then how can ya lose?

I can kinda see the point about other parts but for something like an alternator that isn't really that prone to wearing out I don't see a problem with a used one. Especially when it's going on something that's not a daily driver. Now granted I'm only 28 but I've never worn out an alternator, anytime I've had an electrical problem it's always been the battery that's replaced not the alt.
 

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I usually get a helium filled balloon. I attach it to a 15foot or so string and my toolbox. Have you ever got to looking at something and go look at another car and forget which row your box was in? Try it ill bet next time you go you wont be the only one with a ballon. If someone asks tell em its your Birthday!
Drew
 

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Two pairs of gloves. One pair of mechanic's gloves that let you get to parts through jagged edges, greasy parts, etc., thin enough to let you operate tools and bolts and such. The other pair thick work gloves to pull bumpers, suspension parts, etc.

Also, sturdy wire clippers for more than just wires, trust me.

I would take a tool I carry sometimes, and use all the time working on my car. It's a door panel removal tool. There's a bunch of different types, but the best are simple pry bars with a notch in the spade. Good for removing fender well liners and other things with those lovely little plastic retainers. A narrow removal tool will let you remove them without breaking them.

Don't forget some torx bits and allen wrenches. Those damn things are always there when you don't expect them.

Finally, pry bar or crow bar.
 

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I usually get a helium filled balloon. I attach it to a 15foot or so string and my toolbox. Have you ever got to looking at something and go look at another car and forget which row your box was in? Try it ill bet next time you go you wont be the only one with a ballon. If someone asks tell em its your Birthday!
Drew

Wow, you must live in a GREAT area.
Here, you could watch as your balloon raced to the exit if you got more than about five feet from the box. Six feet if you can throw a wrench really hard...:bounce:
 

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Just thought I would add, there have been some GREAT tips in this thread.

Most of the tips are things I already do, but many I didn't think to put in my post.

Anyone going to a Pick-a-Part should read this thread.
:thumbup:
 

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A safety thing that my buddies and I started doing when removing big suspension parts off of a car was to get a bunch of spare tires, etc lying around and placing them under the frame rail as support and added protection if you're getting under the car.
 
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Well I hit the place up last week but didn't find anything really. I grabbed some bolts out of a Toyota that had been stripped but that's about it. I took too many tools but my wife had dropped me off while she went shopping so I couldn't have gone back for anything.

Enjoyed seeing the lengths people have go to to pull engines and transmissions but I can't imagine craling under some of the vehicles the way they had one corner jacked up resting on old wheels.

I talked to one dude who saw a Mercedes like his go in there a couple days earlier and he was going to try and get the power antenna parts. But in two days it had already been yanked. So I guess people are quick on the good stuff.

I did see some land rover discoveries that hadn't been picked apart yet. I would think you could make some money selling parts off of them couldn't ya?

Will definitely seek them out when traveling. It was fun walking around even if I didn't find anything that I wanted to spend cash on.
 

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A safety thing that my buddies and I started doing when removing big suspension parts off of a car was to get a bunch of spare tires, etc lying around and placing them under the frame rail as support and added protection if you're getting under the car.

Yep. For the ones that put cars up on metal posts, I also used to get a good running start and try to 'tackle' the car before I would get under it. (Check for people under it first of course!) If it fell down, you didn't want to get under it :thumbup:

I guess people are quick on the good stuff.

I did see some land rover discoveries that hadn't been picked apart yet. I would think you could make some money selling parts off of them couldn't ya?

You were looking for parts for an FJ40, if I recall. Those are kinda few and far between at pick-n-pulls. On the other hand, if you just wanted a high output alt that would fit the mounts on your 283, the thing to do is to figure out what alts would fit that, then go to pick-n-pull and buy two or three. At the pick-n-pull in Houston where I used to live, alts were... I think $12 each? Or $14 each with a 'guarantee' - so you'd buy the guarantee, bring it out to your car in the parking lot, and see if the charge light went out.

I would not generally buy parts for resale there, unless you -know- there is a market. I was tempted in the past, but only did it once when I saw a set of FC Rx7 Ground Control coil-overs that the yard sold me for $52. Those I bought because they looked cool, but when I got tired of looking at them, I think someone gave me $150 for them.

If you're not sure how the part in question is held on, this is a good use for those $5 sketchy-ratchet-and-40-sockets sets. Bring one good 3/8 and one good 1/4 ratchet, and now you have all the exotic sizes you might need. Missed out on a like-new Olds leather steering wheel for $10 (iirc) because I didn't have the weird little size bolt that GM used to hold the trims on it. It was like 11/32 or something. The Malaysian-made ratchet set that I got for $4 at Advance Auto had it - go figure!
 

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If you took EVERYONES ADVICE here....you'll be dressed like the Michelin man:pimpflash, complete with helium baloons, carrying 3 buckets of tools, a battery, some electronics, a rechargeable plasma cutter, pushing a wheelbarrel full of parts you don't need (ignitors - really:headscrat??) !!!!!!

Have fun!!!!:beer: :bounce:
 
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You were looking for parts for an FJ40, if I recall. Those are kinda few and far between at pick-n-pulls. On the other hand, if you just wanted a high output alt that would fit the mounts on your 283, the thing to do is to figure out what alts would fit that, then go to pick-n-pull and buy two or three. At the pick-n-pull in Houston where I used to live, alts were... I think $12 each? Or $14 each with a 'guarantee' - so you'd buy the guarantee, bring it out to your car in the parking lot, and see if the charge light went out.

Yep, didn't expect to find any cruiser parts there but lots of the later model toyota parts can work for some things like brake booster and master cylinders. I've already got a spare booster though and the master was replaced last year.

I realized after leaving town that I should have posted up a pic of the alt to get some help in finding a replacement. Maybe next time. Most of the chevy alts I saw were on the drivers side I think?
 

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I don't know which chevy alt you were looking for but the 10si can be clocked in 4 different positions. I'm actually using a chevy (drivers side) 10si on my wife's jeep CJ that has it mounted on the passanger side. The funny thing is it was about $10-15 cheaper at the parts store and it had a metal fan instead of the plastic one on the AMC version.
 

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Costco and Sam's Club sell this thing called the "Magna Cart" It's like a small dolly, and folds up nice a small. Great for putting a toolbox or something on. Just don't expect to wheel a trans out of the yard on one.
 
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