Tire Change & Mount...Bal. kit

[JASTECH]

I searched and came up empty screened! Well here is the issue this time. I have a few trailers, 4x4's and dog trailer. I need to move tires around ect. to get ready for this move. I can't afford to take everything into town and pay out the nose. So, what is a cheep setup like old school that can still be had? I think only 15" and 16" unless I add the 16.5 Humvee split rim dual beed lock rims I want.

Thanks, JASTECH

P.S. The bubble again or?

 

[JASTECH]

Sorry guys! Who am I kidding, with my disability (both shoulders shot and right lung down) I can't do that anymore, it ***** bigtiime!I guess split rim Humvee with pvc bead locks is possible for my condition, you think?

Thanks, JASTECH

 

[Danglerb]

Whats the saying, I'm not as good as I once was, but I'm as good as I was once.

Take your time, use your head instead of your back, and let the tools do most of the work. Trailer tires maybe the HF setup would do, otherwise look for a good tire machine used. Narrow trailer tires, speed under 55 mph, could be a careful bubble balance would work ok.

 

[Outlawmws]

You have to make the call, but breaking down tires and lifting them onto even a bubble balancer is fairly hard work. I had the last pair of tires I bought mounted by the shop for that very reason, not physically up to it at the time, and my son wasn't available either.

 

[Danglerb]

Find a strong back that would like to learn, and get paid at the same time.

 

[JASTECH]

You guys are correct, again, lol
I try to think I'm that pup under the truck holding up the ****** with my knees/shins to get it back over new clutch & plate. Time don't wait for nobody!

 

[evintho]

Wal-Mart mounts tires for $5 each. If you've got a bunch of 'em you could probably negotiate an even cheaper deal!

 

[Neura]

another option is too look on the local advertising sources to see if someone does them out of garage. I do them here out of my garage for guys for $15 a rim/tire mount and balance, but I am a bit far away... or find a farmer that has an old tire machine, most are willing to do a swap for nothing or next too nothing. Another soruce is the local high school if they teach mechanics, they usually have equipment to do this sort of thing the students do the work with the teacher supervising.

On another note here in Alberta Canada we generally dont balance trailer tires and rims. We would if required balance the tire rim and hub assembly together.

I snagged an accutrun 4402 rim clamp machine and a acuturn 6000 balancer this past summer from a equipment rep, his old trade show cube van broke down so he made me a deal to get it moved to my place and running for the equipment. I spent $600 or so with the tow to get it here and running. the equipment was valued at just over $4000 according to him.

Another source might be to see if there are any old shops that want to sell or get rid of there old box style machines that are sitting in the corner collecting dust. My last tire machine was a coats 3030 box style that I got from a car dealer they hadn't used it in years. I gave them $200 for it.

of course you will still need to find an able body to lift the rims/tires onto the equipment.

 

[evildky]

16.5 splin rins are dangerous and I don't recomend you try dealign with these yourself, most tire shops won't touch these things anymore

 

[Bruce Lancaster]

Has anyone tried Gempler's bead breaker?? If that works, it looks like it would save a lot of the brute force involved.

Link: http://www.gemplers.com/product/145883/Tire-Bead-Breaker-Manual

Somewhat expensive, but I feel like I've alredy lost $186 worth of blood and sweat using primitive means.

They also have a larger one

 

[eljefino]

You can break beads if you can bend over. Just use the scissors jack and frame/ rocker panel of your vehicle. Put the jack base on top of your bead and the jack topper under your frame and crank down. They usually have good gear reduction, it's just the positioning that might be akward.

Prying the tires off without nicking the beads will be tedious. At least get some good soap so the opposite bead will slip into the recessed cavity of the rim more or less on its own.

I use the $40 manual HF changer (also available on amazon!) and it's a bear to use when fully physically able. Have yet to find a two-plane balancer for under a thousand bucks though!!! 65 series and taller tires do okay with a static balance; I use either a cone or I'll mount it on a wheel hub. Either pull the drum brake or if your brakes are out of adjustment so they don't drag, spin the tire and watch where the valve stem stops. If it stops at the same point every time, add weight to the top. If it reverses you know you really need some! This is accurate to 1/2 oz on a rear hub of a FWD car.

Trailer rims are notorious for not putting the hub hole in the center, so balancing them like a tire store would might do more harm than good. I'd do it on the trailer provided your bearings don't have much drag.

 

[BD1]

Here's a video of the HF changer.

 

[rlitman]

Trailer rims are notorious for not putting the hub hole in the center, so balancing them like a tire store would might do more harm than good. I'd do it on the trailer provided your bearings don't have much drag.

That depends on who does the balancing. They're supposed to look at the tire and check for runout before worrying about the balance. Most shops have the plate that lets you grab lig-centric wheels. It's that rusty thing on the floor behind the balancer that's never been used.

And some people wonder why I own my own spin balancer.