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tatra

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i have an old rhino that i worked on for years before buying off my old employer. does the majority of what i need and then some. doesn't owe me a dime. just wondering what others have use and if anyone has info on mine.
 
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Coats 3 Star "Iron Tireman" circa 1960. It came out of my dad's Esso gas station in the early 60's when he replaced it with a Coats 1010, one of the first fully air operated machines. It's a fully manual changer so I get a good workout every time I use it. I had to make up a couple of adapters so it would accept wider wheels than it was ever designed for but, otherwise, it has managed everything I've ever thrown at it.

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I have two of the old mechanical tire changers. Honetly, I'm not sure who/what they are, but I think they're great.

i have an old rhino that i worked on for years before buying off my old employer. does the majority of what i need and then some. doesn't owe me a dime. just wondering what others have use and if anyone has info on mine.
 

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I purchased a new Ranger RX-950AT tire changer and DTS-1000 wheel balancer a few months ago. After my last go around at the tire store, I decided to take the plunge. No I cannot justify their cost. But it’s a pleasure to change and balance tires, particularly knowing it’s being done right. Plus I would never trust any tire monkey on any of my priceless chrome plated wires wheels on my antique cars. And it sure gets old using taped-up spoons and manual labor.


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Not trying to pick on you, old car guy, because I collect old cars, too. I just found it amusing that your post referenced priceless antique car wheels and the picture shows a $39 white spoker!
 

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How do you guys dispose of old tires? I'd like to get a changer and balancer but wonder if it will cost an arm and a leg to get rid of my old tires.

OldCarGuy - Wise move to get the machines. I hate having to take my precious 1970's Porsche 911 fuchs in for new tires. I always insist that the manager do these and I stay and watch the guy do them.
 

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Not trying to pick on you, old car guy, because I collect old cars, too. I just found it amusing that your post referenced priceless antique car wheels and the picture shows a $39 white spoker!
He posted that pic when he bought the changer, showing it installing the spare for his trailer :)
 
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while on the subject of installing tires at a shop, i used to work as a tire monkey for years and relished the look on guys faces when i would go "ooppppssss" because they insisted on watching....... and as for the manager doing it, half the time they were inept on the floor so were made to be managment so as to do less damage................now what do you guys use for mounting your tires. personally i use a product called "no rim rust"...............excellent product as it is more of a grease than fluid.........never have bead leaks with this stuff........try it , you'll never use anything else again.
 

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Our county recycling sites accept 4 tires/day from individuals. My friend has a Hunter Balancer and a no-name changer. Works on all of our race cars and street car tires.
 

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Not trying to pick on you, old car guy, because I collect old cars, too. I just found it amusing that your post referenced priceless antique car wheels and the picture shows a $39 white spoker!

That’s correct,, I thought that I would practice on some cheep rims before I graduate to pristine wheels found on my six wheel Classic’s of the 30's.

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tatra

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OCG, yea those rims i would have insisted you come and help in the back because those are a hands on type of job. done a few in my time, mostly by hand so as to insure no damge. still used the tire machine to break the bead and hold in place, then used spoons to remove. where do you find liners for the rim in this day and age?
 

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i use them under my tractor implements.......

or, i put them in the front yard that says, "FREE, MUST take all. Don't have to knock, just take!"

How do you guys dispose of old tires? I'd like to get a changer and balancer but wonder if it will cost an arm and a leg to get rid of my old tires.

OldCarGuy - Wise move to get the machines. I hate having to take my precious 1970's Porsche 911 fuchs in for new tires. I always insist that the manager do these and I stay and watch the guy do them.
 

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One big happy family now, Corky Coker had purchased Anne Kleins Universal Tire company some time after her death ...

There are two places to purchase antique car tires, tubes, and flaps. Either Coker Tire or Universal Tire. They are both outstanding venders. However I prefer Universal tire. They own the rights to Lester Tire that I prefer to run on...


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Some day, I'm going to buy one of these.

No Mar Classic Model Tire Changer

It is 100% manual, but there a couple of "trick" accessories that come with it that make it easy to do. You have to watch the videos.

Even though they are aiming this product at motorcyclists, it will handles any drop center tube of tubeless tire with a rim 10" - 21" and rim widths up to 10" wide !
 

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I have an old ARMSTRONG tire changer that was in my Dad's Sunoco in the 50/60's. It is hard on the arms and back but a lot of soapy water helps.

In Ontario we pay a disposal fee when we buy tires, before it was charged when we disposed of them and many were kept at home or improperly left places. So now there is no problem getting rid of them.
 
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I had a Coats 710 in my parents barn for years, until the tornado took the barn, so i gave it to a friend up the road who has a farm and he is putting it to alot of use. Power bead breaker but manual removal/install. it was the tire machine in the chrysler shop i worked at, till 98' when we replaced it with a rim clamp. pic is what it looks like but not mine, found on the internet.
my town also take 4 tires at a time for no charge on days the recycle center is open which is three days a week.
 

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I take the GJ approach to bead breaking: I use my vice! Then a Chinese manual changer and a static (bubble) balancer. I have a little over 100.00 into it (except for the 97 pound vice)
 

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Some day, I'm going to buy one of these.

No Mar Classic Model Tire Changer

It is 100% manual, but there a couple of "trick" accessories that come with it that make it easy to do. You have to watch the videos.

Even though they are aiming this product at motorcyclists, it will handles any drop center tube of tubeless tire with a rim 10" - 21" and rim widths up to 10" wide !

I have the Jr. Pro. I bought it for motorcycle tires, never done a car tire. Great machine, although the spoon bars that come with it aren't all that great. I have found, unless the tire is really squishy you still need to use spoonbars. Great machine though. I plan on either upgrading to an automatic machine or the larger Pro Model at some point.
 

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I bought a Coats 210 its almost brand new, but thinking of a power changer now mostly for motorcycle tires and maybe just sell the coats and keep looking for the next one. Should be able to find one by the time the next 3.5 car garage is built, even though the shmbo wants a house with the garage.
 

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I have a pair of 50+ year old tire spoons, a roll of tape, a bunch of rags and several pieces of custom cut plywood.....but now I'm old and getting real tired of that ****. Since we now have several newer german vehicles and high dollar 19" wheels, I'm thinking it's time to buy one of those fancy changers that doesn't touch the rim.
 

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I have a pair of 50+ year old tire spoons, a roll of tape, a bunch of rags and several pieces of custom cut plywood.....but now I'm old and getting real tired of that ****. Since we now have several newer german vehicles and high dollar 19" wheels, I'm thinking it's time to buy one of those fancy changers that doesn't touch the rim.

I've been looking into em too. Too pricey for me but here you can find all sorts of tire machines.
 

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Some day, I'm going to buy one of these.

No Mar Classic Model Tire Changer

It is 100% manual, but there a couple of "trick" accessories that come with it that make it easy to do. You have to watch the videos.

Even though they are aiming this product at motorcyclists, it will handles any drop center tube of tubeless tire with a rim 10" - 21" and rim widths up to 10" wide !

I've got one of those and have broken two of the ends off so far. The nylon ends just have a piece of round solid bar through them for reinforcement but even a large wall tire can bend them pretty easy. Couple times back and forth and the end of the nylon comes off likely leaving you with a scratched sidewall.
 

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I mainly do farm implement and trailer tires. I'm cheap and could not justify
a big buck one. I bought the HF manual one and it was the best $30.00 I
spent. I could not believe what a good job it does.
 

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I've got one of those and have broken two of the ends off so far. The nylon ends just have a piece of round solid bar through them for reinforcement but even a large wall tire can bend them pretty easy. Couple times back and forth and the end of the nylon comes off likely leaving you with a scratched sidewall.

Use a rim protector and a long spoon bar to bring the sidewall up then insert the nylon end. Otherwise you will run through those ends like there is no tomorrow.
 

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this picture shows a 3/4" plywood adapter for 1936-39 Ford wheels
 

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drewski

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I've got a Big Four manual that I bought back in the 70's when you couldn't find anyone that would put an aluminum wheel on an air operated machine.

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Recently gave it a repaint with some 35 year old Imron that I still had sitting on the shelf.

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Not of much use on some of the newer very low profile rubber band with tread tires of today.

Drew
 

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A friend gave me a really old beat up John bean tire machine. I had it for a while but to be quite honest it took up more space than it was worth. I gave it back after a few months.

I also have a slightly beefed up harbor freight tire machine. To be quite honest it works pretty well when bolted down! I used a few pieces of heavy leather to protect the rim from the bead breaker and rim hold down, I also found that the heavy plastic from the bottom of milk jugs taped to the end of the bar along with tire mount lube from NAPA makes it a pretty good no-mar for aluminum.

Chris
 
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Falcon67

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I have one of the HF manual tire things. I used it once to remove some slicks. After fighting for an hour to get a new slick on a rim, I took it to my guy at Bill Williams Tire and for $20 both got done while I waited. Not a tire guy. I might try bolting that thing to a pad somewhere and trying again later. Maybe. Easier to throw it all in the pickup and take it somewhere.
 
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