Tire Changing "Spoons"??

[littletoes]

Anyone use them, and what do you like??

What do you not like??"

Looking for ideas here!

Thanks Guys!

 

[WhiffySpark]

Not worth your time. Take them to a shop

I only use spoons for 19.5+

 

[wvrailroader]

I use them for ATV and mower tires. The Harbor Freight ones that are like $5 work ok. The ones TSC has for about $15 work too. It's not like there have been any major advances in tire spoons lately lol.

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[zcbauer89]

Ken tool makes some nice spoons.

 

[Farmall 1066]

I've got a set of the Ken-Tool double ended ones, and a set of longer ones from Northern tool. Both work fine.
Tried the HF ones and wasn't impressed for car size stuff. Way too easily bent.

 

[theoldwizard1]

Ken-tools. THE place for tire tools !

 

[oldtractors]

Get two of the Motion-pro S shaped irons. https://www.motionpro.com/product/08-0007

I have used them on everything from front lawnmower wheels to full sized rear (38") tractor tires.

 

[James-W]

When I was a young man I messed around with tires quite a bit. Not that I am older, and hopefully wiser, I just take my bad tires to a local tire repair shop. I seldom have a tire problem, but when I do, it's off to the repair shop.

 

[bwringer]

Get two of the Motion-pro S shaped irons. https://www.motionpro.com/product/08-0007

I have used them on everything from front lawnmower wheels to full sized rear (38") tractor tires.

Same here.

Don't piss around with the imitations that look the same and cost about the same. The MP tar arns have some subtle juju in the tip curvature that really makes them work a lot better.

With one of these and two 8" tar arns (and a good bit of experience, I guess), I can have two motorcycle tires off and new ones mounted while most people are still futzing with the stupid clamps on their fancy $800 tire changing machine.

I've found that passenger car tires work the same -- they're just chubby motorcycle tires. I don't normally mount car tires myself, but I will break a bead and fix a valve stem if the occasion arises.

If you find yourself working on large truck tires, or machinery/tractor tires, then rummage around at a real farm store for the stouter stuff you'll need. If it's the sort of store that stocks pink camo "Farm Gurl!" t-shirts, but not enormous tire irons and heavy equipment tire mounting supplies, then you probably need to try a different store.

 

[T45]

Anyone use them, and what do you like??

What do you not like??"

Looking for ideas here!

Thanks Guys!

Goes without saying. But needs saying ... For what?

 

[littletoes]

Thanks guys!

For the "Take it to the Shop" kinda guys....just to let 'ya know, I'm out in the country...and you just can't always get to a shop.

I'm looking at small tractor tires right now.

 

[driftpin]

Yes, I have a collection of tire irons. My first set is probably 45+ years old. Like the fisherman whose fish length gets longer with time of telling the tale, my spoons have grown in length over time. I am sure you understand that the subsequent spoons I've bought have been longer than the preceding pair, not that my spoons grew longer in my toolbox!

The Motion Pro stuff is what I have and use the most, though I will use the early spoons sometimes on a bicycle tire w/a steel bead. The kevlar bead 'folding' bicycle tires don't require irons.

Same here.

Don't piss around with the imitations that look the same and cost about the same. The MP tar arns have some subtle juju in the tip curvature that really makes them work a lot better.

With one of these and two 8" tar arns (and a good bit of experience, I guess), I can have two motorcycle tires off and new ones mounted while most people are still futzing with the stupid clamps on their fancy $800 tire changing machine.

I've found that passenger car tires work the same -- they're just chubby motorcycle tires. I don't normally mount car tires myself, but I will break a bead and fix a valve stem if the occasion arises.

If you find yourself working on large truck tires, or machinery/tractor tires, then rummage around at a real farm store for the stouter stuff you'll need. If it's the sort of store that stocks pink camo "Farm Gurl!" t-shirts, but not enormous tire irons and heavy equipment tire mounting supplies, then you probably need to try a different store.

 

[gungatim]

I have 3 of the HF version. they work pretty good but they do spring and flex quite a bit on larger tires, but I've never bent or broken one. I pretty mych only use them with my tire machine now to get the duck bill started, so they don't get much use anymore, but I have manually changed 17" truck tires with them (and LOTS) of lube.

 

[Provincial]

I have some of the HF spoons. I have used them on ATV, lawn tractor, and small trailer tires. They work OK, and I have not had any problem with them bending or breaking. I have not tried them on car or truck tires, and don't intend to!

 

[Waggoner72]

I change dirt bike tires fairly often and I will only use motion pro tire SPOONS. Not irons. I have had bad luck with the irons pinching tubes and scratching rims too easily. The spoons are thinner and can be slipped out of the tire easier. This is what works best for me on dirt bike tires. Also I use 3 of them. Your application is different, just wanted to give my 2 cents.

 

[ttpete]

Get two of the Motion-pro S-shaped irons. https://www.motionpro.com/product/08-0007

I have used them on everything from front lawnmower wheels to full sized rear (38") tractor tires.

Those are known as Michelin Pattern irons. Straight end is for removing the tire and curved end for mounting same. You'll never pinch a tube with these as long as there's enough air in it. The little hook on the end of the iron is what does it.

Here's a decent bead breaker. A little pricey but worthwhile.

https://www.extremeoutback.com/product/36/Tyrepliers+Beadbreaker++Part#+001-000.html

 

[jgelack]

I've also used the Motion Pro spoons for changing motorcycle tires, they work well. I also use 3 spoons to do this.

 

[ptgarcia]

I use Motion Pro, also, but I use their T-6 Combo Levers (hex wrench on one end and spoon on the other). I have Tusk spoons also but the shape of the Motion Pro works better.

Paul

 

[jeeper46]

I have a couple of short Made-in-Japan motorcycle tire levers, maybe 8-10" long. I've changed countless motorcycle tires, jeep tires, Model A and T tires, whatever. The key is making sure the tire beads are always in the center well of the rim. When you do that, it's not a test of strength or an exercise in cussing and frustration.
I put an old, stiff rear tractor tire on a new rim after leaking chloride rotted the old rim on my Ford 8N. I used a couple of 24" levers from HF. That was a real workout!

 

[Olafur]

I use this style - hope the link works.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NIKN2G8/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Don't know anything about core tools, mine are some old German stuff, and recently 24" Toptul. Work great for larger tires.

 

[CutterFarms]

I have a pair of 30" Ken tool spoons, flat on one end and double bevel on the other end for tubed tires. I use them on several tractor tires a year usually 38" rims and they work great and never pinch the tubes.

 

[sberry]

Bead breaker. We do our own, it costs too much and takes too long to have someone else do it and while there are some tire pros there are some real duds work in the biz. It can be a hard job they are not as clean and fussy with mine as I am.

 

[sberry]

Put some juice in one. I got a genius fixing a tire.

 

[wasabiboys]

Used the HF ones on snowblower and a 13" wheel off a corolla. Not bad worked well

 

[djbmw]

Why are so many people confusing Spoons and Irons?!?!?

Tire Spoons have a rounded end - Just like a spoon that you use to eat with.
Tire Irons are what several people have linked to that are traditionally used with tire machines.

If the tool has BOTH shapes at opposite ends, call it either of the two names, OR call it a Tire Lever.

Spoons are more gentle on tire beads since there is more surface area. They are also less likely to do damage on a tube if you're installing a tube.

Both spoons and irons (or levers) will do the job if the user is careful and understands how to mount/dismount a tire (with, or without a machine).

If you're bending the tool to the point of no return, you're doing it wrong - stop - take your time and think! If the tire is THAT stiff, put more of the opposite bead into the drop center. If that still doesn't help, apply additional pressure to the bead/tire immediately before/after where your tire tool is (this is what bead-assist arms on the machines are for, but some wood wedges and bar clamps can also get the job done if you're without a machine).

 

[Provincial]

Quote:

If you're bending the tool to the point of no return, you're doing it wrong - stop - take your time and think! If the tire is THAT stiff, put more of the opposite bead into the drop center. If that still doesn't help, apply additional pressure to the bead/tire immediately before/after where your tire tool is (this is what bead-assist arms on the machines are for, but some wood wedges and bar clamps can also get the job done if you're without a machine). Unquote.

If you are having any trouble with the beads, use more lube! I have had some really old tires be so stiff they would not come off without a fight, but I never would have succeeded without LOTS of lube.

 

[littletoes]

Got the whole set coming from Motion-bought through Amazon-it was actually cheaper, with free shipping!

Thanks for the help guys!

 

[ttpete]

Quote:

If you're bending the tool to the point of no return, you're doing it wrong - stop - take your time and think! If the tire is THAT stiff, put more of the opposite bead into the drop center. If that still doesn't help, apply additional pressure to the bead/tire immediately before/after where your tire tool is (this is what bead-assist arms on the machines are for, but some wood wedges and bar clamps can also get the job done if you're without a machine). Unquote.

If you are having any trouble with the beads, use more lube! I have had some really old tires be so stiff they would not come off without a fight, but I never would have succeeded without LOTS of lube.

Old hard tires are best dealt with by cutting through the sidewall around and above the bead and lifting the carcass off. The beads then can be slipped off the rim easily.

 

[littletoes]

Here's an update guys-

Bought the Motion set, and one from Ken-Tool.

I like how heavily built the Ken-Tool version is. I just removed a 15" tire from the rim. The Motion tool felt a little spongy....but the Ken-Tool was fine.

 

[Handyfarmer]

I have 4 or five tire spoons mostly ken tool, and do most all my own tire work, from tractors to bicycles, I forged out one of my tire spoons (looks the same as the ken tool 24)" .
http://www.kentool.com/index.php/products/tire-spoons/straight-tire-mount-demount-spoons-detail

http://www.kentool.com/index.php/products/tire-spoons/curved-tire-mount-demount-spoons-detail

and a few other types,