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flushcut

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Howdy, I am looking for a heavy duty tire plug set. My Slime brand set is just too cheesy and small in the hand. Looking for something that doesn't feel like it's going to break/bend and is of quality construction. Thanks for any input!
 
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I have always felt that tire plugs were a sub standard way of patching a tire,

have always felt that dismounting the tire and outing a patch on was the way to go,

many times on finds problems on or with the tire you would never find other wise,
 
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I have always felt that tire plugs were a sub standard way of patching a tire,

have always felt that dismounting the tire and outing a patch on was the way to go,

many times on finds problems on or with the tire you would never find other wise,

Normally I agree with this but out in the field a plug will have to do. It's that "time is money" thing.
 

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Safety Seal has been the industry standard for decades. Made in the USA... The tool handles are heavy duty cast aluminum and feel very substantial.

I have always felt that tire plugs were a sub standard way of patching a tire,

have always felt that dismounting the tire and outing a patch on was the way to go,

many times on finds problems on or with the tire you would never find other wise,

You're not alone. That is the general mentality in the tire repair industry these days. People dislike plugs because someone once told them that patches are better, and then snowballed from there.


I suppose it's possible for a plug to fall out of a tire if the puncture hole is simply to big for the plug, where as a patch can't fall through the hole. However, a patch can fall off the inside of the tire so they are even in that respect. I've heard people claim that a patch is "safer" than a plug. I'm still trying to figure that one out. If there is a hole in a tire, that hole still remains whether it's been plugged or patched. And that THIN LITTLE patch of rubber glued to the inside certainly is NOT adding any structural strength or integrity back into the tire. 30 years ago I worked at a full service gas station (remember those?) as the tow truck driver/gas attendant. It was a full service shop that could handle even heavy repair. It was located along a state highway and we would get 3-5 customers PER SHIFT that would pull in with a low/flat tire. I personally installed hundreds of tire plugs back in those days (safety Seal) and NOT A SINGLE customer came back with problems. Back then, the mentality was, once the tire was plugged, it was FIXED! You forgot about it! Go put another 30,000 miles on those tires because they've been fixed...... Then, somewhere along the way someone claimed that patches were better, and here we are in late 2017. lol

Tire plugs still work just fine!
 

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Safety Seal plugs or if you opt to dismount the tire, I use Black Jack combo plug/patches.

I remember my Dad using Safety Seal plugs back in the 80's all the time and they always worked great.
 

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personally i never had a problem with cheap plug kits. never leaked or fall apart.

and yes, other than quick repair, tire patch is way to go.
 

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I live on a rural rd. A transfer station moved in 20 years ago. I’ve plugged a lot of my own tires. They work fine. Seem to be there when the tire is wore out. I’ve never worried about the plugs.
 

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and yes, other than quick repair, tire patch is way to go.

Right. That's what people "say" but can you tell us "why" patches are better?

Serious question. I'd like to know the actual reason.
 

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Right. That's what people "say" but can you tell us "why" patches are better?

Serious question. I'd like to know the actual reason.

Sure patch plugs are supposed to fill the void and prevent water and debris entering the cords. That’s what they say.

As far as separating, that isn’t what I meant. When you drive on a low tire the sidewall can separate. You take the tire apart and it’ll be filled with rubber powder.

To an untrained monkey, they won’t notice until it’s apart. I can tell by sidewall discoloration before disassembling usually
 

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I keep the cheapest string patch kit I can find in the trunk of my car in case I'm in a bind and can't go to the tire shop right away (like when I had multiple punctures in both rear tires from a shower of fasteners some construction crew kindly left on the road).

I've also read that dismounting the tire and patching is the industry standard, as there might be internal damage to the tire (particularly if someone drove on a deflated tire for a while before having it repaired).
 
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Safety Seal has been the industry standard for decades. Made in the USA... The tool handles are heavy duty cast aluminum and feel very substantial.



You're not alone. That is the general mentality in the tire repair industry these days. People dislike plugs because someone once told them that patches are better, and then snowballed from there.


I suppose it's possible for a plug to fall out of a tire if the puncture hole is simply to big for the plug, where as a patch can't fall through the hole. However, a patch can fall off the inside of the tire so they are even in that respect. I've heard people claim that a patch is "safer" than a plug. I'm still trying to figure that one out. If there is a hole in a tire, that hole still remains whether it's been plugged or patched. And that THIN LITTLE patch of rubber glued to the inside certainly is NOT adding any structural strength or integrity back into the tire. 30 years ago I worked at a full service gas station (remember those?) as the tow truck driver/gas attendant. It was a full service shop that could handle even heavy repair. It was located along a state highway and we would get 3-5 customers PER SHIFT that would pull in with a low/flat tire. I personally installed hundreds of tire plugs back in those days (safety Seal) and NOT A SINGLE customer came back with problems. Back then, the mentality was, once the tire was plugged, it was FIXED! You forgot about it! Go put another 30,000 miles on those tires because they've been fixed...... Then, somewhere along the way someone claimed that patches were better, and here we are in late 2017. lol

Tire plugs still work just fine!

Hell, I've put plugs through worse in a week than most could in ten years of trying hard. I love being told they're not acceptable, because people get really bent out of shape about it.

Here's the thing:

It's industry nonsense. Plugs are not only fine, they're a great way to get the job done, regardless of what tools you have on hand or where you are in the world. :thumbup:

Same people that try to tell you it's okay to run a thousand miles of washboard an hour after they've glued a windshield on the car... They went to some night class, were told something once, and it stuck like Liquid Nails; unlike their windshield...

Plugs aren't a compromise. They're a solution. Just get the good stuff and be done with it. A Safety Seal kit will last you many, many years on the road, as they tend to come with a fair number of plugs.

The "Special Lube" jar will never stop giving you a chuckle, either. :lol:
 

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For what it's worth, I've used my blackjack kit to plug run flats already and it worked great. Tire shops refuse to plug run flats but if you repair them immediately there's really no issue. My newest vehicle does not have a spare or run flats so I keep the kit and a small compressor in the trunk, quicker than calling AAA.

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Sure patch plugs are supposed to fill the void and prevent water and debris entering the cords. That’s what they say.

As far as separating, that isn’t what I meant. When you drive on a low tire the sidewall can separate. You take the tire apart and it’ll be filled with rubber powder.

To an untrained monkey, they won’t notice until it’s apart. I can tell by sidewall discoloration before disassembling usually

So it's not the the product (patch) that is better, it's the process that is thought to be better. Gotcha...
 

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So it's not the the product (patch) that is better, it's the process that is thought to be better. Gotcha...

My thoughts as well. I used patches because that’s what was required. For libality reasons we couldn’t plug a tire. I didn’t care for patch plugs because you usually have to drill the hole larger and that’s counter productive to me :dunno:

The biggest thing is breaking the tire down and inspecting. I’d say 1 out of every 4 tires were trashed from driving on low air.
 

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puncture_ill_sm.jpg

That picture is rather misleading about the string repair on the right. It's not a few scraps of dry yarn.

I've demounted motorcycle tires with string plugs, and what you see on the inside is sort of a sticky "mushroom head" -- after a few miles, the loop of string in the tire flattens and spreads out. Even with pliers, the strings are very difficult to pull out -- they pretty much become part of the tire.
 

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Nealey Tire repair kit:
http://www.tirerepairkit.com/whichkit.htm

They're strings, but they are quite different and are installed differently than others. You basically end up tying a knot inside the tire, and you get four lengths of the string in the hole.

^^^^^^^^this^^^^^^^


i have made 100''s of repairs with these over the last 20 or so years.

my preferred choice of repair. 9 times out of 10 a nail or small screw punctures a tire leaving a hole that leaks but is hard to see. why in the hell anyone would want to run a 1/4 inch reamer through a tire to make a larger hole for a larger plug is beyond me. on rare occasion i will use a scratch to find the hole and open it slightly.

if you have a nail hole in your wall do you punch a bigger hole in it so you have bigger hole to patch? no. well why would you do it on a tire?
 
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^^^^^^^^this^^^^^^^


i have made 100''s of repairs with these over the last 20 or so years.

my preferred choice of repair. 9 times out of 10 a nail or small screw punctures a tire leaving a hole that leaks but is hard to see. why in the hell anyone would want to run a 1/4 inch reamer through a tire to make a larger hole for a larger plug is beyond me. on rare occasion i will use a scratch to find the hole and open it slightly.

if you have a nail hole in your wall do you punch a bigger hole in it so you have bigger hole to patch? no. well why would you do it on a tire?

9 times out of 10 I don't use the reamer. I simply push the plug into the existing hole. Being big and strong has it's advantages. :D
 

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I get tires fixed at the tire shop. For the rare instance that isn't possible, I have a Safety Seal kit. I don't off road much anymore, but when I did, I've used 4 Safety Seal plugs in one hole caused by a telephone pole spike to get back to civilization. It worked! We used a lot of them at the shop I worked in on OPE...lawn tractors, etc. Never had one come back.
 

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Part of the reamer process is to clean the hole so the rubber can vulcanize better. So the hole in the wall analogy is over simplified. Sometimes you do want to make a bigger hole. You are removing debris and roughening up the surface to allow a better bond. I always use the cement as it acts as a lubricant. Even though some do not.

I am no tire expert. I will defer to those guys who do it for a living. I have kept a plug kit in my car for 20+ years and I have used it 10 or more times. If not on my car, on somebody elses who I am helping. As long as it is not near the side wall it has always worked out. I have no regrets.

As recent as 4 or 5 years ago I have seen gas stations do it the same old fashion plug way.

I now see it as, there is good, better and best. Sometimes good is good enough.

Interesting Thread.
 

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I have a mix of safety seal and house brand from a local parts store. They have worked well for me.

Only plugged 1 or 2 nail holes on the street driven cars. The crawler, well one tire still has about 6 plugs in it, right on the corner of the tread and sidewall.

I plug, cover in rubber cement, light it and that seems to help make a better seal. I dismount and send the tire off to a local shop that does vulcanized repairs once I get back from a trip and have time to do that.
 

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Ive had more plugs fail than patches...

None the less I still use the plugs and recommend them.
 

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I like the unvucanized rubber plugs and never had a problem. Then again, I've never plugged a sidewall.
 

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I will defer to those guys who do it for a living.

I did it for six years. My preferred method is dismounting and performing the repair like I was trained (per RMA procedure). You get to inspect the inside of the tire and fix it real good. I agree with the plug sealing the puncture channel and the patch sealing the inner liner. Lastly you seal the inner liner with sealer where you buffed for the patch.

http://www.tirereview.com/back-to-basics-1-basic-tire-repair/

Then again, this isn't always practical for your average joe sixpack. There is an investment in tire tools and chemicals. I did. I enjoyed doing flat repairs at my old job and enjoy it now.

There's also nothing wrong with the Safety Seal plugs since they're time-proven and if done properly, but you better be damn sure that the tire isn't damaged from running on it flat. You can tell by a band all around the sidewall, and ran-flat tires have a nasty smell to them.
 

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^^^^^^^^this^^^^^^^


i have made 100''s of repairs with these over the last 20 or so years.

my preferred choice of repair. 9 times out of 10 a nail or small screw punctures a tire leaving a hole that leaks but is hard to see. why in the hell anyone would want to run a 1/4 inch reamer through a tire to make a larger hole for a larger plug is beyond me. on rare occasion i will use a scratch to find the hole and open it slightly.

if you have a nail hole in your wall do you punch a bigger hole in it so you have bigger hole to patch? no. well why would you do it on a tire?

That's not what's happening... :lol:
 

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That's not what's happening... :lol:


alright then.......

please explain to me how if you run over a nail or screw that is a small diameter, lets just say 1/8. so you have a puncture through the belts of the tire made with an 1/8 inch object.you then run a reamer that is much larger than that through the puncture to make a hole large enough to put a large plug in. tell me how you don't at least potentially do more damage than is already done.

on a somewhat related note, people talk about the need to ream out the whole to clean it. exactly what is in there? i think the amount of grunge left in a hole is wildly exaggerated. i live on the gravel and i don't seem to have a problem with dirt or grunge in a puncture. pushing a screw, nail or staple through a piece of heavy rubber requires enough force that most if not all of the grunge gets rubbed off and the air leaking out of the tire forces what little there is back out as well.
 

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In my experience, having worked in 2 shops where we routinely installed plugs;
There were no comebacks.
The most common failure using plug kits is if you use one with a plastic handle much, the reamer or driver will eventually get loose from the handle.
although I have not done a lot or had one fail, I consider a plug in a sidewall to be temporary, and will get a vulcanized patch or fresh tire ASAP
 
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