Tire plugger:Blackjack or Safety Seal
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rlitman
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I have the Safety Seal, and love it.
Scrambler82
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I have a kit but do not know the manufacturer BUT I like it too !
The plugs are like mushrooms, that's all I know.
Good tool to have around.
The plugs are like mushrooms, that's all I know.
Good tool to have around.
Buckgnarly
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Safety seal here, works great!
wafrederick
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If they are the rawhide type,you don't want them.The rawhides don't seal worth a ****.I pull them out a lot finding them a cause of leaking tires.
regguy1
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Is this the one you have? http://www.etooldirect.com/Group-31-Mushroom-Style-Tire/dp/B0080IFG5S
Here's a video of it in use, looks like a good kit:
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chrisa7164
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I've had the safety seal kit for a while and it works great
redwrench60
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44 people telling you tire plugs are hack in 3....2.....1....
ev2mopar
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I'm not a fan of tire plugs, but I hate walking too!
In both of my daily drivers, I have a tire plug kit, a small 12 air compressor, slipjoint and needle nose pliers.
Just in case.
In both of my daily drivers, I have a tire plug kit, a small 12 air compressor, slipjoint and needle nose pliers.
Just in case.
redwrench60
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where are those 44 people when i have a flat tire on the side of the road??
Yeah, my trucks wearing a plug on one of the tires. All the cool kids are doing it.
firebox40dash5
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I think out of the last 4 sets of tires on my truck, a total of 5 tires might have not had at least one plug. Never had a plug leak or fail. Self vulcanizing my *** though, I always coat them in rubber cement first.
I have a kit from ARB, which looks the same as the Safety Seal kit. I've seen the Blackjack kits as well and they look good as well. Anything but the cheap plastic ones... had a reamer handle fail and damn near put the shank through my palm the last time I used one.
Zeke
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SpiderGearsMan
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hack city
MrMark
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not really. For a nail type hole that is clean, many tire repair shops and at least my mom's Chrysler Jeep dealer use plugs. That is in NY by the way.
Out here where I live, Allen tire has my respect and they always use the plug/patch kits. But, I think the plug is sufficient for a nail hole. I did one about recently and it is holding perfectly.
Out here where I live, Allen tire has my respect and they always use the plug/patch kits. But, I think the plug is sufficient for a nail hole. I did one about recently and it is holding perfectly.
devoncoolman
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I have the black jack kit and the astro kit. Black jack comes with better plugs. Both have nice polished tools and lube for insertion. Nice blow molded cases. Astro was cheaper and in my truck for road side emergency repair. Black jack is for shop use.
scaron
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i do not like plugs but occasionally i have to put up with them because discount tire's tire "protection certificates" allow them to repair instead of replace if they deem it possible. if stuck on the side of the road, i'd rather just put my doughnut on than try to do a plug job.
devoncoolman
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I would just throw my spare on if im only going short distance or to get to a safe place. But on a 1000 mile trip which i do often. My save a spare in our cobalt wont make it 800 miles nor do i wanna drive that far on a spare anyway. So this is where the plug kit saves me money and gets me back on the road faster.
crewchief888
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i have a couple of safetyseal kits.
sberry
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I never had a safety seal leak, plugged a couple nasty holes I was leary of.
firebox40dash5
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I think it's to hold against the tread while you pull the shank out, so it doesn't try to pull the plug out with it. That's how I use it, anyway. Works good for that.
Zeke
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I have been to Allen Tire in Lakewood and I wouldn't let them put tires on a tricycle after my one experience. The ruined 3 out 4 impossible to find Porsche 356 hubcaps. I specifically asked if they had the tool and knew how to remove them. I should have done it myself but I didn't have the tool. Easy to make.
These guys are Walmart AFA quality of workmanship.
I worked at at a tire shop on Saturdays when I was in college. The only plug used was a rubber one with a mushroom top.
http://www.southbayriders.com/forums/threads/41347/
Most of the time we broke the tire down and put a patch on the inside. But that's because we were a tire shop.
sberry
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I can see we got opinions about like oil type and change,,, the fact is they work and work well. No one wants a damaged steel belt, no matter how you fix it that's stillo a fact but had to plug one the first week of its life, wore the tire out and eventually had 3 plugs.
I trust the DOT approved plug before fukking around taking wheel off fooling with some repair,,, who knows if its done right? I used the whole pack of plugs never had one leak even a couple shady cases.
I bet crew chief seen the same,,, when I said never had one fail,, I am serious, never, not like a tire shack but maybe a hundred or so, well worth the cost of the kit, probably plugged tires that should have been replace for other reasons
I trust the DOT approved plug before fukking around taking wheel off fooling with some repair,,, who knows if its done right? I used the whole pack of plugs never had one leak even a couple shady cases.
I bet crew chief seen the same,,, when I said never had one fail,, I am serious, never, not like a tire shack but maybe a hundred or so, well worth the cost of the kit, probably plugged tires that should have been replace for other reasons
firebox40dash5
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I agree ^^. I can't really charge enough to patch a tire to make it worth my time. A good bit more work and time over a mount and balance, might not take, and really, how much more than a regular mount and balance can you charge? I can do plugs easily on the spot, often on the car, and just charge $5. I've seen more failed tires (a lot) without plugs than I've seen failed tires (none) with plugs.
crewchief888
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i've plugged tires on my service truck, and ran another 25k miles on the tire before it was due for replacement.
as for "shady cases" & tires that shoulda been replaced...
i slashed a tire one night out wheeling.
'78 bronco on 38's
1am
1/2 stuck on a muddy trail
i jammed 9 or 10 plugs in that hole before it finally stopped leaking, and reinflated with a little (walmart) 12v air compressor.
drove it home, 20 miles or so, that night, expecting it to be flat in the morning.
it wasnt,
i ran it for another year before i sold the truck, 2 or 3 times a week it was my go to work DD, ya shoulda heard those monster mudders howl at highway speeds
sumner52000
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I have the blacjack and very happy.
jeffws
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I have the ARB kit. Ive used it a few times never any problems
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004P91FCO/?tag=atomicindus08-20
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004P91FCO/?tag=atomicindus08-20
BD1
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My safety seal kit has performed well. When I bought it many years ago their material had a longer self life then others.
secretsquirrel
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Now that you bring this up where is the best place to get the plugs that dont look like a string with brown tar on it?
bobcatdan
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I have both kits, safety seal in the service truck and blackjack in the shop. They work identical. If given a choice, I would take the safety seal for no particularly reason. As for plugs being a hack way to fix a tire, I don't think so.
rlitman
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Unless it is a plug/patch, patches are a hack way to fix a tire. They allow water to get into the metal belts and cause corrosion.
Plugs are just fine, so long as you can be sure that you've removed the entire object, such as a nail.
Plugs are just fine, so long as you can be sure that you've removed the entire object, such as a nail.
firebox40dash5
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I like the black ones that came with my ARB kit. The ones Slime sells in cheap 30 packs at Wally World look the same, or if you want to spend more Blackjack sells them too. Or were you thinking something else?
Funny this got bumped, last week I had a real knowitall customer come by the shop wanting help plugging his own tire. He had a plug kit from HF and couldn't get the reamer to go. I thought about just busting out the drill like I usually do, but figured he'd throw a fit over a drill bit going near his tire, so I offered him my ARB kit. Have turned me down, and I thought about telling him to be careful with cheap plug tools but I figured he wouldn't listen. A couple minutes later he found me and asked if he could borrow my sruff because the reamer handle broke and he almost got a shaft through the palm. Some people...
bobcatdan
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I agree, anybody taking the time to remove a tire and is not plug/patching is wasteing their time useing normal patches. If you can't seal a tire with one plug you are doing something wrong, either somehow screwing a simple job, or are trying to fix a tire that shouldn't be repaired in the first place.
wrenched87
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Blackjack all the way. Nice gripped handles. Weighs in nice and comes with lube for reaming the hole.