Toby's car and grill build

[cslye]

After lurking here for awhile its time to get my build planning going. I recently moved from a newer home with a 3 car attached and no land space to an older home with a 2 car attached on an acre of land. One of the goals of moving was to move to a larger garage such as a 4 car. After much debate about the purchase, seeing what people here had been able to accomplish it eased my fears. Solution was simple, build my own.

Started playing with chief home designer suite with ideas from here and talked to a local builder and this is where we are today.

The name comes from my son(Toby), and the plan to move my BBQ area next to the building so my wife stops complaining of the smoke coming inside when I cook by the rear door. And of course the play on the Toby Keith bar and grill

Looking for feedback on things I may not have thought of. I have not placed power on here yet, but it will be plentiful when I do place it on drawing.

If any pics show three single garages, I changed that to a single(9 wide x 10h ) and a 8x18 double based on prior suggestions here.

As for the strange size, I started with a 30x40. The problem is zoning would require a variance. Anything with 1k sqft can be put in under as an agricultural building, and the second storage space doesn't not count to that sqft.

For the time and effort, going from 1200sqft to around 1000sqft I think may be an ok trade off.

 

[cslye]

Grumble, using iPad and screen shots to make these and it names them all the same name so I can't upload more then one at a time.

This is the .5 story piece.

This will be used for my office, and a media room. I had a bonus room at prior house which I used for home theater.

Current ideas is for a wall between the dormers with about a 4 ft walkway towards the center with a sliding door between the spaces.

 

[cslye]

Elevations

 

[cslye]

Overall lot placement.

 

[cslye]

Broke ground yesterday, footings dug. Stem wall pour scheduled for Thur and the slab on Friday...

 

[Rodmh]

Awesome! Good for you

 

[cslye]

After a bit of delay with two inspections prior to cement pour ...

 

[cslye]

Another small delay for GC out of town for a couple days...

 

[cslye]

And today, first lumber drop is done and crew gets up the start of the frame -

These guys are a bit lazy with the nail gun - I have found about a half dozen nails sticking out of the frame where they shot them in at an angle or they bent and now the nail tip is sticking out, is that an acceptable number or a sign of poor craftsmanship ?

 

[JordonMusser]

Nice build! My framer hand nails any nails that dont go all the way in.

 

[wbrian63]

Seeing as how you're in earthquake country (assuming Sacramento is), my bigger concern is that the framers follow the nailing schedule for the sheathing. I'm also assuming they're using some sort of engineered corners on the side with the overhead doors?

The nails in the frame really only serve to keep the boards in alignment with each other on the faces and in position long enough to get the sheathing on. Even nails driven horizontally into headers don't "hold" any load - the header should rest on a jack stud that transfers the header load down to the floor. The sheathing holds everything together, and gravity does the rest. So long as the protuding nails don't create a safety hazard, and they're not overdriving the sheathing nails, or skipping on the nailing (I think code require every 4" on the edges of the sheets and 12" spacing internally), then you're going to be just fine - frame-wise.

 

[cslye]

Looks like I forgot to post an update a few weeks ago. They finished sheathing the walls and pulled wire for the panel to the house two weeks ago and then got stuck waiting for truss delivery.

Current word is tomorrow morning I will have trusses. Yay! And first rain also planned for tomorrow.



Some how I will end up with another one of these before the end of my build if wifey gets her way. Or a goldendoodle something is the other one I hear about every day.





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[Ed Litsch]

Great place!! It is looking really good. Keep us posted.

 

[cslye]

Truss company was no show on Tuesday but did arrive on Wednesday about 1. Crew was able to get them set before it got dark.




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[cslye]

Few days of rain slowed things down but they are back at it. Hopefully have a shell in a couple of weeks.







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[RbrtAWhyt]

That's looking awesome!

 

[cslye]

Not been doing a very good job collecting updates. With the time change it's dark when I leave and I get home.

A lot of progress just slow.


Not enough light for sure, but I sort of knew that going in. These will be removed and put back up when I am ready to sheetrock the garage.






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[cslye]

Garage doors up, I have never used jackshift openers before, but reading enough posts here I knew I wanted to. So now I have 3 3800 lift masters and will replace the attached garage with one when it is redone.









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[cslye]

Mini split arrived, went with Fujitsu after reading about every post Jackfre posted about them

This will go upstairs, got a 15k 2 zone unit.

The two areas will eventually be divided so I wanted to be able to evenly heat and cool them.



I had originally planned to so on wall units above the windows. Once seeing them framed out I didn't think there was enough room so I debated another wall or going to ceiling cassettes.

I did the cassettes, time will tell of that was a bad decision.

First problem is they expect threaded rod to mount on to install. So I made a couple of frames to slip over the trusses with threaded rod attached to them. Then slid the cassette between the truss and bolted to the rod.



Lineset is run through the wall and put the back to a wall hanger where the unit will be mounted. Have an ac tech lined up to come out and do the connections.


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[cslye]

So as always, an unexpected turn of events changes the process. A couple months ago we went for the final inspection and learned that the walls had to be covered in the walls downstairs in the garage.

All prior inspections had passed including electrical, and inspector knew there were no plans to cover the walls.

So long story short, my plan of someday drywalling the garage became hurry and drywall the garage to pass final. (Not such a bad thing as I may have ended up waiting years to do it...).

I had to skip doing a few things I had hoped to do as I did not have a good plan or the time to do properly. A few things come to mind, airlines in walls, more electrical and a couple dedicated 220 outlets.

What I did do was alarm low voltage, network cable, and 4 12ga romex feeds from the panel to the attic area as spares for future use.

Lights are all removed, curse at the electrician for face nailing romex to the joists, meaning the wire is to short to be usable. Rip all light wire out and replace.

Kid[0] learns Friday night is lowes and Home Depot runs to get supplies for the morning and now asks every Friday if we are going yet.



Wife[0] reminds me Friday nights didn't use to mean shopping for supplies, and how all her friends are out and about. I think my reply was something like "nice yoga pants, are your friends all wearing that out also ? "

Yeah, maybe better to do that after the trailer is loaded next time.




Drywall going up, ceiling first then the walls.




Taping and mud done, not the prettiest job but it will work and no texture. Spraying PVA



Two tone walls painted







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[cslye]

The dreaded task of putting lights back up gets done. This is all that was needed to complete inspection, but the task of getting them aligned etc was daunting. Finally just did it.

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No inspection before the next weekend, so did the red line and cleaned out all the trash and dust etc.

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Then the discovery was made...

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A crack that runs from the front to the rear of the garage going past the joints.

Along with the shorter one in another location.

I had planned to epoxy up until this time, but starting to consider racedeck type tiles now. Still playing with that idea. Don't know what to do here, read plenty of prior posts but need to decide.

And today, passed final inspection.


All in all it was about 10 days of work, but I can only work on it one day a week so it took since Mar 15th when I got the first load of rock.






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[cslye]

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[Jacko]

awesome. I'd love a garage like that!

 

[GRN96WS6]

Nice shop, why did you opt for the dormers off to the side like that?

 

[cslye]

Nice shop, why did you opt for the dormers off to the side like that?

To get 8ft ceilings in more of the second story space. It also matches the house, one of the wife's requirements.

The area over the 12ft garage is all truss and to short for office space, the area over the 10ft is a large "storage" area. Aka am office and home theater room.




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[cslye]

So after way to much reading here I decided against epoxy and went with racedeck. Pulled the trigger today on the order, and it will be here Tuesday.

Of course I am booked at work all week so might have to walk by unopened boxes for a few days, might drive me nuts. Sooo close




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[cslye]

Came home to this today, I think it was my wife's hint to not use my crappy extension ladder to paint the place this weekend.

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There is only one question, does this mean I can't drink as much beer while painting ?




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[cslye]

Completed the exterior painting today. Was a bit surprised two of us managed to mask and spray and backroll this place in a day. Even had time for some pool jumps and sight seeing, and tree trimming left over.



Gonna take a break from the garage for a day and paint the house tomorrow.




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[cslye]

This is a good way to start the evening tonight...




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[dubber]

Great build. And i can't wait to see that last box unwrapped and installed!

 

[rubberrodder]

The race deck is a good choice since you don't want to see that crack. My cement contractor told me straight-up that my floor was going to develop a "four way fracture".
He put guide strips just below the surface for it. He said it was just part of the settling when doing a monolithic slab/foundation. It still beats the hell out of the dirt floor I had!

 

[cslye]

So as always, work got in the way and I had to take a break after getting 80% done. Been looking at this for a couple weeks now, just need to get back and finish all the cuts.

Due to a measurement error on my part, this was not the original design between the two doors but it turned out ok and didn't need to order more material.

Got all of this done in one evening, really happy so far. Will be even more so once I get all the edges in and pieces around the poles cut.

 

[jiweihua]

Wow.