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Fav Onefour

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I love the floor joist build. It would be a bummer to redo some framing, but. . . .

My place had bath plumbing roughed in the slab. When it was time to do that bath, I realized the C to C placement put the toilet at 14" with finished walls. I did a mock up and figured it would be fine. It was fine for years until my mother came by after her hip replacement. The tight spacing was difficult. She was nervous and uncomfortable using that bathroom.

I learned a little lesson with that situation. What works for me might not be the only answer.
 

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The inner webs tell me I’ve got to place my toilet a minimum of 15 inches from the finished side wall. The sources I look at make a point to emphasize this.

I can do 14 inches or I can do 24 inches to avoid the joists under the floor. I’ve mocked it up at 14 inches.

While it’s tight, I think I can live with it. I’m out in the country and this is a cabin so code is not an issue.

I could use the saved space. But I don’t want to do something stupid.

You guys seem to know this stuff. What do you think?

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30" is 30" if need to start moving floor joists to move it an inch and it's not being inspected,I wouldn't worry about it myself.
 

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My master bath is 14.5" and I have never experienced a problem and could easily give up the extra .5". My old house had a half bath off the master bedroom that was even tighter. The only time I had an issue there was when my Mom's jade necklace went down the toilet and I had to pull the toilet to retrieve - it was a pain to pull the toilet and get it past the sink that protruded into the area in front of the toilet.
 

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Can you change the offending wall? Move it or change it to flat framed? Changing a 2x4 wall to flat framed you pick up 2”.
Walls get flexible and don't have the depth for an electrical box when you do that. 2x3 can be made to work in some cases though.
 

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Walls get flexible and don't have the depth for an electrical box when you do that. 2x3 can be made to work in some cases though.
Yes they can get flexible when flat framed. They do make electric boxes that work for these situations though.

OP has 1-1/8” subfloor. Then let’s assume he has ceramic or hardwood with a typical build of about 3/4”. So he has 1-7/8” from bottom of toilet flange to top of LVL joist. An offset flange will work here.
 
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Bought my Mom & Dad's estate when they passed.
The main floor bathroom is small as it is but they had a single pedestal sink and a dresser for a vanity.

We gutted it. I had a vanity custom built as large as I could to get two sinks and get some counter space.
I used the existing toilet plumbing.
It's tight but not uncomfortable.
I don't have any regrets in regard to the toilet/vanity placement.

Code is a nonissue out here in the country.

Before:
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After (Still not done - waiting on mirrors, trim and drawer pulls)
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That is just unbelievable...

Are the joist's truly 14" x 1-1/2" on 12" centers with 1-1/8" Advantech subfloors?

OMG...

Yep. It’s a stout little place.
Cripes, I have been in houses with 24" centers and 3/4 wafer board flooring, and nothing else. I felt like you might fall trough the floor it was so bouncy.
14" lams on 12" centers with 1-1/2" Advantec, you could park a semi-truck in that place!
 

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Cripes, I have been in houses with 24" centers and 3/4 wafer board flooring, and nothing else. I felt like you might fall trough the floor it was so bouncy.
14" lams on 12" centers with 1-1/2" Advantec, you could park a semi-truck in that place!
I did miss quote one thing, the flooring is 1-1/8", not 1-1/2", but regardless...
 

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I'd suggest going more than 15" rather than less, just from experience.


Yikes, I'd hate using that toilet. I would hit my elbow on the vanity every single time.
Another factor is the tp holder. If you do a wall mount with tight space, make it out of something like pallet racking. Those chintzy decorative buggers will get busted off in a hurry.
 

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I'd suggest going more than 15" rather than less, just from experience.


Yikes, I'd hate using that toilet. I would hit my elbow on the vanity every single time.

I should add that your remodel looks great, not trying to knock you down.
LOL...it's not quite as tight as it might appear in that picture.
I nor my wife have had an issue with it.

To be completely honest, when I came up with the dimensions for the new vanity the old toilet was already removed and I didn't realize it would be quite that tight....lol

It works for us and I'm not about to redo it ;)
 

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If you can’t do blocking, I have cut a 1x4, screwed it to studs and used construction adhesive as well on the back side and then mounted the TP holder to it with 3/4” long screws.

It’s not going anywhere.

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I've used blocking to make it easier to install the next round. It helps quite a bit and saves on the walls.
Whenever I do a bathroom, I put a good sized chunk of plywood behind the sheet rock. Some people are just hard on stuff and the brackets still get busted loose.
 

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I've used blocking to make it easier to install the next round. It helps quite a bit and saves on the walls.
Whenever I do a bathroom, I put a good sized chunk of plywood behind the sheet rock. Some people are just hard on stuff and the brackets still get busted loose.
I put down 1-1/8" Advantech for subfloor on my last bathroom, and used the extra pieces behind places I might need to mount stuff. On a suggestion I forget the source, I bought a cheap pocket hole screw drill kit, cut strips of the excess subfloor to fit between the studs, and screwed them to the studs with the pocket hole screws.
 

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I put down 1-1/8" Advantech for subfloor on my last bathroom, and used the extra pieces behind places I might need to mount stuff. On a suggestion I forget the source, I bought a cheap pocket hole screw drill kit, cut strips of the excess subfloor to fit between the studs, and screwed them to the studs with the pocket hole screws.
The pocket hole mount is a cool idea. I generally use 2 X 2 blocking screwed to studs behind the plywood.
 
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I usually hack up round holes I attempt by hand. Just never works out.

I think this came out pretty good all things considered. Just fits the offset flange. Gives me a solid 16 inches from the wall.

The CD trick worked great. Used a keyhole saw on the lvl for more control.

Thanks all.


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